Any way of moving authenticator to another device without getting trade hold?

[mr]

I really need to move authenticator from my iphone to desktop authenticator, and from what i know only way is to remove it on phone and then enable it again on desktop auth giving trade hold which means u cant trade for a week

[MancSoulja]

No there is no way.

[Tev]

The hold period isn't a week if you move the authenticator though.

Also, the holds themselves will only be 2 days (instead of 15) during it.

Why do you want to change from a more secure (separate hardware) onto your computer anyway?

[RocketMan]

Anyway to remove the authenticator/trade holds entirely?

Its annoying asf.

[Tev]

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

Anyway to remove the authenticator entirely?

Its annoying asf.

If you remove the Mobile Authenticator, you'll have a 15 day cooldown (given you keep e-mail Steam Guard enabled.)

After which all your outgoing trades*; and Market listings will have 15 day holds.

*

Those you're trading to someone you've befriended for a year will only be held for 1 day

If you intend to go Steam Guard disabled altogether, then you won't be able to trade / use the Market until you re-enable either and wait out the initial 15 days.

[RocketMan]

Originally posted by Teutep:

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

Anyway to remove the authenticator entirely?

Its annoying asf.

If you remove the Mobile Authenticator, you'll have a 15 day cooldown (given you keep e-mail Steam Guard enabled.)

After which all your outgoing trades*; and Market listings will have 15 day holds.

*

Those you're trading to someone you've befriended for a year will only be held for 1 day

If you intend to go Steam Guard disabled altogether, then you won't be able to trade / use the Market until you re-enable either and wait out the initial 15 days.

Jesus christ.
Why?
Thats a horrible system.

[Tev]

Because people clearly couldn't keep items to themselves when it was only behind e-mail protection. The urge to click those malware links was too great.

You either have holds when items leave your inventory, or you use the Mobile Authenticator.

[RocketMan]

Originally posted by Teutep:

Because people clearly couldn't keep items to themselves when it was only behind e-mail protection. The urge to click those malware links was too great.

You either have holds when items leave your inventory, or you use the Mobile Authenticator.

There should still be an opt-out entirely feature. Maybe have it disabled in the event you get phished or scammed.

[Tev]

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

Originally posted by Teutep:

Because people clearly couldn't keep items to themselves when it was only behind e-mail protection. The urge to click those malware links was too great.

You either have holds when items leave your inventory, or you use the Mobile Authenticator.

There should still be an opt-out entirely feature. Maybe have it disabled in the event you get phished or scammed.

The point of the separate hardware based authentication is exactly that you don't get "phished"

Just getting your computer compromised isn't enough to lose your items because it requires confirmation from a device other than your computer. Items are largely the reason behind account theft anyway, because they're what you can get out of the account and move onto another.

No secondary hardware based security? Then they hurt the liquidity by introducing holds to scenarios where items would leave your inventory, as to make the victim notice it rather sooner than later and cancel it out. Giving them a 7 day cooldown allowing them to secure the device meanwhile.

And scams? If people read and followed the trading FAQ, they wouldn't get scammed. Stop believing in rep while at it, because any gullible idiot is going to give it to the next person promising 'free items' for it.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

Originally posted by Teutep:

Because people clearly couldn't keep items to themselves when it was only behind e-mail protection. The urge to click those malware links was too great.

You either have holds when items leave your inventory, or you use the Mobile Authenticator.

There should still be an opt-out entirely feature. Maybe have it disabled in the event you get phished or scammed.

they tried that with steam guard email and people still bi***** to valve about it and created many support tickets clogging up the system. that is why there is no "opting out" of it.

[mr]

Originally posted by Teutep:

The hold period isn't a week if you move the authenticator though.

Also, the holds themselves will only be 2 days (instead of 15) during it.

Why do you want to change from a more secure (separate hardware) onto your computer anyway?

First off: Valve forcing people to use it to be able to trade normally pretty much means that Valve deems its average steam user too dumb/incapable to take resposibility and keep their account/items safe and take care themeselves which is NOT A HARD TASK AT ALL even for nee users and only requires users to not be naive/dont trust, pay attention, dont download questionable ♥♥♥♥ which is all common sense and can all be easily avoided by a sane person.

So i don need that extra forced security, im trading since like 4-5 years long before authenticator and i was totally fine and never had a virus on my pc since many years, never scammed or anything like that only because i have common sense. And on the account i want to change to desktop authenticator i started using the market a lot and a nice feature that desktop auth has is it can auto confirm listings saving me in total a lot of time.


Side Note: I personally have my items/account at a lot lot higher risk by having them tied to my phone because if it gets stolen or even only accessed by someone who knows for 2-3 minutes my items are already gone, and since i have a pretty big csgo inventory on main, and a lot of people on my school/area use steam and know about my inventory there were a few attempts to steal/get access to my phone to steal my inventory.

And even without that, im a lot more likely to lose/get my phone stolen than getting hijacked or scammed on steam

[Tev]

Neither have I been hijacked or scammed the whole 8,5 years I've been on Steam, but that changes nothing.

Options were given and enough people were incapable of following them. This has been discussed to death so many times in other threads that I'll leave it at that.

Personally wouldn't use desktop authenticators, but your loss if something does happen.

The phone getting stolen part: write down your recovery code.

[RocketMan]

Originally posted by Teutep:

Neither have I been hijacked or scammed the whole 8,5 years I've been on Steam, but that changes nothing.

Options were given and enough people were incapable of following them. This has been discussed to death so many times in other threads that I'll leave it at that.

Personally wouldn't use desktop authenticators, but your loss if something does happen.

The phone getting stolen part: write down your recovery code.

It is still a bad business decision.
There should be some leeway. I personally dont even use the steam market place because of it.

[RocketMan]

Originally posted by Teutep:

Neither have I been hijacked or scammed the whole 8,5 years I've been on Steam, but that changes nothing.

Options were given and enough people were incapable of following them. This has been discussed to death so many times in other threads that I'll leave it at that.

Personally wouldn't use desktop authenticators, but your loss if something does happen.

The phone getting stolen part: write down your recovery code.

For me it was frustrating when I was homeless.
Couldnt trade ♥♥♥♥. No phone for a mobile authenticator, and the desktop hold would reset every time I'd use a public pc.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

Originally posted by Teutep:

Neither have I been hijacked or scammed the whole 8,5 years I've been on Steam, but that changes nothing.

Options were given and enough people were incapable of following them. This has been discussed to death so many times in other threads that I'll leave it at that.

Personally wouldn't use desktop authenticators, but your loss if something does happen.

The phone getting stolen part: write down your recovery code.

It is still a bad business decision.
There should be some leeway. I personally dont even use the steam market place because of it.

the market is a privilege not a right. privileges come with restrictions. know them and deal with them.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by Mail me to the moon:

There should be some leeway.

While I agree with you, I think everybody should have the right to screw himself over, people who actually get themselves screwed over don't agree. They think that Valve should protect them from their own stupidity.