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I'm seriously considering the Steam box (pending more news) because I'm liking Steam and I definitely like Valve's games. I just don't know how limited the Steam box would be? Any thoughts?
To add to the conversation, I was seriously thinking of getting an Xbone asap. Now I am thinking of sitting back until the dust settles from the Steam announcements. I will definitely wait until the pricing comes out for the Steam controller and box before placing money on any console this generation.
If the price and user experience are right, consoles will sell and the community will grow around it.
From what I can tell from the announcements, the steam boxes are going to be generally PC-oriented hardware. If you buy a powerful enough machine to run windows, go for it. Dual boot may even be common. It will likely depend on which box you buy.
The benefits of the SteamOS is not to run exclusive titles. I am pretty sure there will be no exclusives at all. Anything you can play on SteamOS, you can run through Steam on Windows/Linux. The point is really to bring down the overhead needed to play games. Without windows running in the background, the hardware will be able to focus more on the game.
I hate being a foreigner.
Wait and see.. pretty much my plan too. Would love to see XBMC be incorporated into the OS so i can have a HTPC as well as a gaming machine (two bird with one stone).
I imagine at some point it will be done as it is a open platform.
Even for a "borrowed" product? The ToS stipulate that the machine still belongs to Valve.
In my case I don't since my sister takes most of the time the living room but then also my parents don't use pcs or consoles to play or watch movies just a external HD or the tv system we use here in spain
So why every company talks like consoles and pcs for games are for living room?
Oh and if this steam box becomes family thing then we might end up with more complains about my underage kid was playing your adult game why you don't ban this game or i'll go after you in court etc.
So I think at the end we will end with a steam box and store that has to folow ♥♥♥♥♥ game console rules where games are less violent or more family orientated that mean buy to Larry and his ♥♥♥ series lol
On your other point, it's a parents job to govern what their kids play. Consoles and PC's come with parental control options for those who need them, and it's really irresponsible parenting that leads to kids playing games for mature audiences, not the developers, retailers or hardware manufacturers. I also don't agree that consoles follow a set of rules which govern the level of violence and mature content in their games, if anything, violence and mature content have become increasingly prevalent in games over the years, with the exception of Nintendo consoles, but even then, they're more open to adult-oriented games now than they used to be.
I personally don't like to game in a social environment, but I can see the appeal of it, and I can certainly see other benefits of having an all purpose, single media box set up in one's living room.
At least in the United States, the living room is traditionally where the TV was and, at one time, where the family got together to watch TV. It probably sounds better than, as we say in Ireland, the sitting room. Steam is expanding into the sitting room! Maybe it could work.
Problems about who is old enough to play a game should be sorted out by families themselves.
Funny when you said USA I feelt the usual americans and then i was thinking about that also in europe in ireland and continue reading and you said ireland funny yes the sitting room , well in my case now I have my pc, ps3 and my tv in my room and one in living room for the family
I've never seen a systems retailer EVER sell for less than you could build your own for.
My advice to everyone unless you fall into the category of "rich and lazy" is to build your own PC on PC Part Picker and then build it at home. On a high end machine you will save $100's if not $1000's. On a low end machine, were the savings perhaps matter to you even more you will still either save $100's or get a much higher quality build for the same price.
However installing Steam OS on a spare HTPC or budget built gaming machine is a good idea. Other sorts of Linux might be better but it could definetly be worth it to dual boot both and use Steam for your gaming at least.
I feel really positive about Steam OS. Steambox I hope may be better than a console BUT realistically in terms of hardware performance that might not yet be so. In terms of user experience however I can hope so.
What I know though is that Steambox still falls far behind building your own PC, I take this for granted even though specs and prices are not yet released. You can build a complete PC system for anywhere from $200-350 up to infinite. Obvioulsy the cheaper ones near the bottom are very basic and not so good for gaming but you can do it. Here is a example of a super cheap complete computer system if you don't believe me:
Includes tower & complete set of inner parts, monitor, keyboard and mouse. Everything you need to play, assembly required.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rove/saved/2aTH
Base Total: $371.78
Mail-in Rebates: -$13.00
Total: $358.78
Now just add some random Linux or "Steam OS Linux" and you are done. You can also go cheaper, I just wouldn't want to do it for a entertainment machine though.
Steambox will probably charge a fairly high premium above that even for such a cheap unit. I could be mistaken though. If they could sell something with PlayStation 4 quality hardware for $330 like the PS4 is rumoured to launch for then kudos to them and I want to see it. I'll even say I want one. However NO other PC manufacturer or gaming PC manufacturer has EVER managed to do that at all ever and I really don't think Valve can actually afford to because Sony and MicroSoft are much much bigger companies than Valve and can afford to own or rent their own factories to put these things together. Also with Steamboxes being able to be made in different levels then it's more expensive and complex which is exactly why console makers stay away from that sort of thing mostly.
Like I said, for the rich or lazy. Anyone who wants to save a few $100 and put together their own custom machne can do it. Obviously making the Steambox for you is worth someone's time which is why they do it, thus it follows that making your own Steambox instead is actually worthy of your time unless you earn far more than average.