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Mumziz 2013 年 6 月 11 日 下午 1:18
Will EA games ever return to Steam?
So my question is will any EA published games return to Steam? Personally i despise Origin so damn much and EA. But they got some really good studios, like DICE and Bioware.

I mainly want them back because they seem to change their attitude. With Battlefield 4, Battlefront and Mirrrors Edge coming out I would love to have those games on Steam.
最後修改者:Mumziz; 2013 年 6 月 11 日 下午 1:19
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Brotherman Bill 2013 年 8 月 2 日 下午 2:48 
引用自 el Dog.?
Unlike Steam, Uplay makes games worth getting for the PC. I'm never personally too sure about Origin myself but it's still a better client than Steam.
No.
Baron von Noob 2013 年 8 月 2 日 下午 5:21 
引用自 el Dog.?
Unlike Steam, Uplay makes games worth getting for the PC. I'm never personally too sure about Origin myself but it's still a better client than Steam.

Dude, no, just no.
I know at least a dozen people who flat out refuse to use Origin because of the reasons i and others on this forum explained.
Those i know who do use Origin find it a royal pain in the ass, and none of these complain about Steam.
Laptop 2013 年 8 月 2 日 下午 5:27 
Laptop65

Hi, why aren't EA's current games on Steam? I want to buy your latest games but prefer to have them on Steam. Can you shed any light on this?


21:28
Origin Insider

Steam dropped several EA titles because of a TOS conflict: We wanted to offer DLC and support in-game, and they said no.

While we’d like to offer our games through as many services as possible, we don’t want to sacrifice quality of service to do so.
Dutchgamer1982 2013 年 8 月 2 日 下午 5:30 
引用自 Canti
Like how they said when digital distribution kicks off the savings will be passed to the consumer?

heh heh... right,,,,

-remove players ability to return a game after they bought it
-remove players ability to sell away games they bought (eliminate 2d hand market)
-remove players right on a second licence if they bought the same game twice
-battle any ability to trade games between different regions on earth
-ask in every region the same insane high prices people used to get retail versions with proper disks, and 2d hand option for.
-force the remaining retail stores out of buisnuiss and force them to register any games their at steam anyway.
-ask often even more than the game costs in retail (many games sold at 5-10 euro's in retail are in the 20-40 euro range on steam)
lart 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 1:56 
引用自 Laptop65
Laptop65

Hi, why aren't EA's current games on Steam? I want to buy your latest games but prefer to have them on Steam. Can you shed any light on this?


21:28
Origin Insider

Steam dropped several EA titles because of a TOS conflict: We wanted to offer DLC and support in-game, and they said no.

Translation. We are going to sell all DLC exclusivly through Origin forcing Steam customers to update their game on multiple places. With ingame support we refer to advertising said DLC.
Pingspy 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 4:58 
Would be really awesome with Battlefront on Steam. I hope it will happen in time for Battlefront and Battlefield 4, but to be honest I doubt it. All we can do is wait.
Laptop 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 5:02 
引用自 Pingspy
Would be really awesome with Battlefront on Steam. I hope it will happen in time for Battlefront and Battlefield 4, but to be honest I doubt it. All we can do is wait.
If Battlefield isn't on Steam then Battlefront probably won't be either. Same for SimCity and Crysis 3.
CyberDown 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 8:40 
Few people want to juggle multiple game managment clients. I dont buy UBI games and I no longer buy games that require orgin for example.

The thing that EA and UBI need to realize is that people are heavily invested in steam. They are only going to attract new gamers. Who the hell wants to live on orgin when they have hundreds of steam games and that is assuming that one day orgin and steam reach parity on features and function...which it wont...and assuming orgin gets the sheer volume of games that steam has, which it wont.

Also, i HATE how EA manages DLC. I have to log into the damn game to see what DLC is there then tab out, log onto a website, fill my wallet up with (for example bioware points) then spend those points in game (of course you will always have leftover points, they would never let you pay $3.99 for a DLC...no no...you must first put $5 worth of points on your account to buy the $4 DLC and now you just paid $5 for a $5 DLC unless you want to give them more money...either way your never out clean.

I like Steams DLC...i click the DLC link, it says what i have, what i dont have, and theres no dollar to points game that will always leave me abandoning a balance. I dont have to log into the game to manage it, and with many games its easy to thumb through and see whats there for each game.

The thing is, even if orgin eventually copies every single thing from steam, and gets a much larger library...i still have all these steam games, i still like it better, i dont want to juggle another client for some titles that EA has run into the ground after buying out beloved indy developers who made those titles great...all while paying full price (and having to rebuy the game after two years to install it again which is a scam...i should pay half off if i only am able to install for two years)


In the end, its just EA trying to muscle their competition and customers to use a service no one wants. While at the same time making excuses that its steams fault and they are the bad guys. Of course they dislike the steam "user friendly" DLC policy...its user friendly and we cant have that now can we..
Tau 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 8:45 
i dont give a ♥♥♥♥ of EA games
Anamon 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 9:32 
引用自 CyberDown
I like Steams DLC...i click the DLC link, it says what i have, what i dont have, and theres no dollar to points game that will always leave me abandoning a balance.

Good point. EA's point of selling DLC in-game and for points as being part of their "quality of service" is ridiculous, I don't think a lot of people would go for EA's method over Steam's if they had the choice. It is about circumventing Steam fees and pocketing more (largely
unjustified) fees for themselves. No wonder Valve said no.

Personally the only effect this entire DLC thing has had on me is that I don't buy games anymore before they're at least a year or two old, and I can get all content in one package. It's not like I desparately need to play those games when they come out. I stay out of the whole shenanigans and get the full game as soon as it is "complete" (and offered at a price that acknowledges all the things I give up on by purchasing a locked-down digital copy as opposed to a physical one). That being said I'd still prefer Steam's system any day. It's locked-in as well, but much less than when things are handled as in-game purchases.

The price thing is an important point. I don't suppose Origin has the same kind of ridiculous sales as Steam?
最後修改者:Anamon; 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 9:33
Wolfsite 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 10:15 
引用自 Anamon
引用自 CyberDown
I like Steams DLC...i click the DLC link, it says what i have, what i dont have, and theres no dollar to points game that will always leave me abandoning a balance.

Good point. EA's point of selling DLC in-game and for points as being part of their "quality of service" is ridiculous, I don't think a lot of people would go for EA's method over Steam's if they had the choice. It is about circumventing Steam fees and pocketing more (largely
unjustified) fees for themselves. No wonder Valve said no.

Personally the only effect this entire DLC thing has had on me is that I don't buy games anymore before they're at least a year or two old, and I can get all content in one package. It's not like I desparately need to play those games when they come out. I stay out of the whole shenanigans and get the full game as soon as it is "complete" (and offered at a price that acknowledges all the things I give up on by purchasing a locked-down digital copy as opposed to a physical one). That being said I'd still prefer Steam's system any day. It's locked-in as well, but much less than when things are handled as in-game purchases.

The price thing is an important point. I don't suppose Origin has the same kind of ridiculous sales as Steam?

You have this backwords- Valve created a new policy forcing developers to use Steam for DLC
and EA said no to it, EA has stated they want to put there games on Steam but they do not agree of Valve's current policies on DLC. This isn't a good vs evil battle, it's just two different companies having a dissagreement about how content is managed. Once they can find a compromise to this EA would be fully back on Steam easily.

The fact they still have other games and still participate in Steam sales shows that they do want to be here.
Anamon 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 10:30 
引用自 Crashedcourse
This isn't a good vs evil battle, it's just two different companies having a dissagreement about how content is managed. Once they can find a compromise to this EA would be fully back on Steam easily.

Valve's policy is not a choice for them, but a necessity. Apple has exactly the same one: if you're going to offer in-app purchases, you'll have to bill them via Apple. The reason is that developers have started offering free apps which were only demo versions, and required you to pay for them outside of Apple's app store. If Steam didn't have this policy, publishers could release free-to-play games where you unlock stuff by paying them directly. Valve would end up footing the costs for distribution, without getting a single penny from the sales, because on Steam's side it would be technically a free game.

This is not a disagreement over policy, but EA asking something of Valve that they would never ever do themselves. The only reason Origin doesn't have the same policy is because they only sell EA games, so all profits go to them anyway.
最後修改者:Anamon; 2013 年 8 月 3 日 上午 10:32
Please add me.
Teh Rover 2013 年 8 月 6 日 上午 5:59 
They want Origin to do well, so don't count on it
dozerio32 2013 年 8 月 6 日 上午 6:19 
i hope so.
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