Updated Steam Subscriber Agreement

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In response to continual harassment of Steam and their new agreements conniving design I have filed with https://www.bucherlawfirm.com to recover losses caused by Steam's illegal monopoly across multiple accounts. I'll also be deferring compensation from all arbitration entirely to the lawfirm. Gben

[skOsH♥]

What losses are you recovering? You know when you put money on your steam account you have to check the box about agreeing to the terms of service

I don't think you have recourse

Sounds frivolous

Is this Billy Mitchell?

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Nguyên văn bởi skOsH:

What losses are you recovering? You know when you put money on your steam account you have to check the box about agreeing to the terms of service

I don't think you have recourse

Sounds frivolous

Is this Billy Mitchell?

You also get they same box and prompt when yoyu purchase a game, or even activate a game key you bought elsewhere.

[TWiZTED]

From Argentina we are also suing Steam. If needed please contact us at Brons & Salas law firm. We are located at Olga Cossettini 363 (C1107CCG), Edificio Yacht VI Puerto Madero, Buenos Aires, Argentina.

We are currently representing over 500 clients in this case and our idea is to work together alongside firms from others parts of the world. The least we pretend is Steam to stop operating in our country since their new terms update are highly unconstitutional. Purchases made prior to this update should be refunded if requested and/or be given proper ownership separately from Steam platform.

This is the biggest scandal in video games history and we should all unite until proper resolution. Needless to mention terms and license agreement have no legal value at all outside the US. It's common sense.

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lawfirm replied. estimated 300 USD claim from all accounts. apparently it's just a percentage of what i paid... I'll be deferring all of it to the lawfirm.

edit: you guys are so schizo. a 30% fee on all games is obviously predatory- they do nothing of the work to develop the innumerable games on their platform! Any arbitrary game from the top selling games likely has a larger codebase than the entirety of steam's ♥♥♥♥ website. holy bootlickers.

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Nguyên văn bởi IFIYGD:

Nguyên văn bởi Tito Shivan:

PS: Aren't Bucher Law those ambulance chasers who were fishing for user personal information under the guise of a class action against Steam? If they're goodsped to OP's private information.

Yes, them and a few others. The *speculation* is that they are data harvesting, and making their real money not from the lawsuits and legal fees, but from selling the PII they mine to data brokers. I can't prove it, but it would make sense. Data brokers will pay out for all of that personal info.

Bucher Law PLLC Privacy Policy - FOURTH SENTENCE

"We do not actively collect Personal Information for the purpose of sale (i.e. we don’t sell customer lists)"

[fluxtorrent]

Obvious lawfirm shill is obvious

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Nguyên văn bởi 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

lawfirm replied. estimated 300 USD claim from all accounts. apparently it's just a percentage of what i paid... I'll be deferring all of it to the lawfirm.

edit: you guys are so schizo. a 30% fee on all games is obviously predatory- they do nothing of the work to develop the innumerable games on their platform! Any arbitrary game from the top selling games likely has a larger codebase than the entirety of steam's ♥♥♥♥ website. holy bootlickers.

If they did nothing why would the dev/pubs pay?
People really need to learn a bit about how business works. and if you think 30% was predatory.. many you'd have died of shock to know what dev/pubs lost selling through retail stores.

Nguyên văn bởi fluxtorrent:

Obvious lawfirm shill is obvious

Pretty much.but they gotta double down.
I mean considering this was for a change that basically gave them more rights as consuimers one wonders what the logic is.

"How darre STeam Empower my rights as a consumer!"

[Crazy Tiger]

Nguyên văn bởi 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

edit: you guys are so schizo. a 30% fee on all games is obviously predatory- they do nothing of the work to develop the innumerable games on their platform! Any arbitrary game from the top selling games likely has a larger codebase than the entirety of steam's ♥♥♥♥ website. holy bootlickers.

Sure, you never should get paid for your work either, I guess?

[Chika Ogiue]

Nguyên văn bởi 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

a 30% fee on all games is obviously predatory

No, that's the cost of distribution. Valve are a business providing a service. Developers/publishers pay for that service. Please learn how distribution works, also look up mark ups in stores. 30% is nothing compared to the mark ups of some products you're happily buying.

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Nguyên văn bởi Chika Ogiue:

Nguyên văn bởi 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

a 30% fee on all games is obviously predatory

No, that's the cost of distribution. Valve are a business providing a service. Developers/publishers pay for that service. Please learn how distribution works, also look up mark ups in stores. 30% is nothing compared to the mark ups of some products you're happily buying.

Basically if the dev/pubs got 50% they were absurdly lucky. SO getting to take a base 70% is basically a dream.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Nguyên văn bởi 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

In response to continual harassment of Steam and their new agreements conniving design I have filed with https://www.bucherlawfirm.com to recover losses caused by Steam's illegal monopoly across multiple accounts. I'll also be deferring compensation from all arbitration entirely to the lawfirm. G:loop_tos:ben

You'd be better off in small claims court. Valve won't even bother to show up and you'll save a fortune.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Nguyên văn bởi 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

lawfirm replied. estimated 300 USD claim from all accounts. apparently it's just a percentage of what i paid... I'll be deferring all of it to the lawfirm.

edit: you guys are so schizo. a 30% fee on all games is obviously predatory- they do nothing of the work to develop the innumerable games on their platform! Any arbitrary game from the top selling games likely has a larger codebase than the entirety of steam's ♥♥♥♥ website. holy bootlickers.

Consumers don't have any standing to complain (or sue) about the 30% fee, we're not the ones who pay it.

[Crazy Tiger]

Nguyên văn bởi Doctor Zalgo:

Nguyên văn bởi 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

lawfirm replied. estimated 300 USD claim from all accounts. apparently it's just a percentage of what i paid... I'll be deferring all of it to the lawfirm.

edit: you guys are so schizo. a 30% fee on all games is obviously predatory- they do nothing of the work to develop the innumerable games on their platform! Any arbitrary game from the top selling games likely has a larger codebase than the entirety of steam's ♥♥♥♥ website. holy bootlickers.

Consumers don't have any standing to complain (or sue) about the 30% fee, we're not the ones who pay it.

The only reason people concern themselves with the cut is because of clickbait articles.

It's not something that is even remotely interesting for consumers to think about. Cause a lower cut does NOT mean better or cheaper games. We've had that story everytime distribution changed or new stores open up.

[Chika Ogiue]

Nguyên văn bởi Start_Running:

Basically if the dev/pubs got 50% they were absurdly lucky. SO getting to take a base 70% is basically a dream.

Traditionally, like authors, developers were lucky to see even 5%. The distributor took 50 to 60% -- the cost of getting product onto shelves, stores perhaps 10 to 20% for their profit (an incentive to actually stock the product). The publisher took what was left and then trickled down the 5% or so to the developer. The developer's percentage varies depending on how much the publisher bank rolled them during development. This is still true today, when it comes to physical publishing.

When you take that into consideration, you can see why game publishers prefer digital, the cuts are more in their favour.

Incidentally, when you see a store selling accessories, such as mousepads, their markup is around 90% of the distributor's price. Most people really don't have a clue as to the actual worth of what they're buying. They just want to jump on the complaint bandwagon started by clout chasers who are equally in the dark.

[Tito Shivan]

Nguyên văn bởi 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

Nguyên văn bởi IFIYGD:

Yes, them and a few others. The *speculation* is that they are data harvesting, and making their real money not from the lawsuits and legal fees, but from selling the PII they mine to data brokers. I can't prove it, but it would make sense. Data brokers will pay out for all of that personal info.

Bucher Law PLLC Privacy Policy - FOURTH SENTENCE

"We do not actively collect Personal Information for the purpose of sale (i.e. we don’t sell customer lists)"

You should get better at legalese if you pretend to go to court.