Game dangerous on steam?
hello everyone, sorry for my english, but in your opinion some games sold on steam can be considered dangerous in the multiplayer side where hackers have such a strong control to damage your pc and the developers themselves have now left the game to its own fate.
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It's entirely possible to have your PC hacked through multiplayer games, unfortunately. Some devs are quick to respond and patch when there's an exploit, but it's not the norm.

There have been remotely exploitable holes in valve's own source games. There've been remotely exploitable holes even in the steam client, and valve took two years to patch it even though it was a trivial fix. Says a lot.

OP asked about old games that have been abandoned, and that's a very valid question. More likely than not, there's a slew of holes in a bunch of old games that will never see fixes or updates.

The gaming industry is just like most others regarding software and security. At first they don't think about it, then they fail to heed warnings from those who've learned better, and then they slowly start bothering with it if it becomes a problem, but overall take little responsibility. Security in software, games or otherwise, has so far always been an afterthought.

Antivirus software and firewalls can't do much to prevent it, either. Having a PC with a bunch of games installed and going online with them is an inherent security risk, extra so when it's centralized via a service like steam. anyone who tells you different doesn't know what they're talking about. Also, not too much that can be done except put pressure on devs and publishers to step up their game.

It all depends on what you're trying to protect and how much a breach would bother you, though, so just take that into account, figure out a stance, and don't worry _too_ much.

Takeaway is this:

Don't use your gaming rig for important stuff, leave that to another device. Banking, entering sensitive passwords, logging into your recovery emails - these are things you just shouldn't do from a gaming PC.

Everyone I know who plays games on steam/epic/etc. and works in security or more advanced software development have all taken to this conclusion as a 'self evident and obvious step'. Nobody told them to, it's just obvious.
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And which game is that? I'd like to know so I can never buy it.
Recently there are posts mentioning about game that hacked buyers' Steam wallet. But damage hardware? I've not heard of that one.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Tristin; 18.2. klo 13.05
The only danger is being naive and not using your common sense.
darkdevil52 lähetti viestin:
hello everyone, sorry for my english, but in your opinion some games sold on steam can be considered dangerous in the multiplayer side where hackers have such a strong control to damage your pc and the developers themselves have now left the game to its own fate.

Frankly, as far as multiplayer games go you're probably more in danger of being SWAT'd than uber hackers damaging your PC... don't let your imagination run amok.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on nullable; 18.2. klo 13.16
At the moment the games where it happens are call of duty black ops 1 and 2, where some users both on steam and reddit have reported this thing, some time ago I also saw a video on youtube. And they are capable of entering your pc and I wondered why steam allows the sale of these games considering the danger.
https://gamerant.com/piratefi-steam-malicious-game-virus-warning/

this game uploaded a virus after it was started

"It's unclear if the malware in PirateFi slipped through Steam's approval stage or if the game was simply updated with malicious files after it was made available on the platform. The email being sent to players suggests it was the latter, as Valve says the developer "uploaded builds to Steam that contained suspected malware." Unfortunately, incidents like this are becoming all too common for PC players. Last year, some Cities: Skylines 2 players were also infected with malware after a popular mod was updated with malicious files. Paradox Interactive apologized to players and urged fans to secure their systems immediately."

but that appears to have been planned by the devs of that game

not a game left tot he hackers that killed it or anything
KalCuey lähetti viestin:
https://gamerant.com/piratefi-steam-malicious-game-virus-warning/

this game uploaded a virus after it was started

"It's unclear if the malware in PirateFi slipped through Steam's approval stage or if the game was simply updated with malicious files after it was made available on the platform. The email being sent to players suggests it was the latter, as Valve says the developer "uploaded builds to Steam that contained suspected malware." Unfortunately, incidents like this are becoming all too common for PC players. Last year, some Cities: Skylines 2 players were also infected with malware after a popular mod was updated with malicious files. Paradox Interactive apologized to players and urged fans to secure their systems immediately."

but that appears to have been planned by the devs of that game

not a game left tot he hackers that killed it or anything
Regarding Cities - what happened is incredibly ironic, considering the fact that Paradox used argument of better control over a content as an excuse, to not use Steam Workshop (they're using their own platform).
KalCuey lähetti viestin:
https://gamerant.com/piratefi-steam-malicious-game-virus-warning/

this game uploaded a virus after it was started

"It's unclear if the malware in PirateFi slipped through Steam's approval stage or if the game was simply updated with malicious files after it was made available on the platform. The email being sent to players suggests it was the latter, as Valve says the developer "uploaded builds to Steam that contained suspected malware." Unfortunately, incidents like this are becoming all too common for PC players. Last year, some Cities: Skylines 2 players were also infected with malware after a popular mod was updated with malicious files. Paradox Interactive apologized to players and urged fans to secure their systems immediately."

but that appears to have been planned by the devs of that game

not a game left tot he hackers that killed it or anything

you are posing another serious situation, however I am referring to games sold on Steam where cheaters are capable of damaging your computer
darkdevil52 lähetti viestin:
you are posing another serious situation, however I am referring to games sold on Steam where cheaters are capable of damaging your computer

RCE exploits aren't new nor are they only found playing in CoD titles.

:nkCool:
darkdevil52 lähetti viestin:
you are posing another serious situation, however I am referring to games sold on Steam where cheaters are capable of damaging your computer
Unless they have physical access to your machine or they get you to download literal malware, that's not really a thing.
You're more likely to suffer from overheating in huge FPS games when not having adequate cooling than some random player trying to get you to download malware, which is why you never click any links.

Any security exploits are usually patched rather quickly when a company finds out, plus most don't want the feds breaking down their door by messing with random people.
Mad Scientist lähetti viestin:
darkdevil52 lähetti viestin:
you are posing another serious situation, however I am referring to games sold on Steam where cheaters are capable of damaging your computer
Unless they have physical access to your machine or they get you to download literal malware, that's not really a thing.
You're more likely to suffer from overheating in huge FPS games when not having adequate cooling than some random player trying to get you to download malware, which is why you never click any links.

Any security exploits are usually patched rather quickly when a company finds out, plus most don't want the feds breaking down their door by messing with random people.

Activision has not patched out the RCE exploits in their older titles nor do they care to.

:nkCool:
cSg|mc-Hotsauce lähetti viestin:
Mad Scientist lähetti viestin:
Unless they have physical access to your machine or they get you to download literal malware, that's not really a thing.
You're more likely to suffer from overheating in huge FPS games when not having adequate cooling than some random player trying to get you to download malware, which is why you never click any links.

Any security exploits are usually patched rather quickly when a company finds out, plus most don't want the feds breaking down their door by messing with random people.

Activision has not patched out the RCE exploits in their older titles nor do they care to.

:nkCool:
Another part of Activision policy of "encouraging" people to buy only the latest installments of the series?
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Aluvard; 18.2. klo 13.45
cSg|mc-Hotsauce lähetti viestin:
Mad Scientist lähetti viestin:
Unless they have physical access to your machine or they get you to download literal malware, that's not really a thing.
You're more likely to suffer from overheating in huge FPS games when not having adequate cooling than some random player trying to get you to download malware, which is why you never click any links.

Any security exploits are usually patched rather quickly when a company finds out, plus most don't want the feds breaking down their door by messing with random people.

Activision has not patched out the RCE exploits in their older titles nor do they care to.

:nkCool:
Well, that's activision, I'm not surprised for a single second.
IMHO that's the sort of thing they should pull games from being sold if a company is aware and does nothing.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Mad Scientist; 18.2. klo 13.48
Heraclius Caesar lähetti viestin:
The only danger is being naive and not using your common sense.
Unfortunately you don't expect this when buying a game on steam
darkdevil52 lähetti viestin:
At the moment the games where it happens are call of duty black ops 1 and 2, where some users both on steam and reddit have reported this thing, some time ago I also saw a video on youtube. And they are capable of entering your pc and I wondered why steam allows the sale of these games considering the danger.
Black Ops 1 is safe but MW2, MW3, BO2 and any COD that utilises P2P is not safe.
J4MESOX4D lähetti viestin:
darkdevil52 lähetti viestin:
At the moment the games where it happens are call of duty black ops 1 and 2, where some users both on steam and reddit have reported this thing, some time ago I also saw a video on youtube. And they are capable of entering your pc and I wondered why steam allows the sale of these games considering the danger.
Black Ops 1 is safe but MW2, MW3, BO2 and any COD that utilises P2P is not safe.
I brought up the Call of Duty case, but think how many other games on Steam have a similar situation and aren't removed
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