Game preservation?

[Low Standards]

Is the the whole idea about not supporting Windows 7 about game preservation? If so, it is a good argument to discuss.

[DarkCrystalMethod]

1. Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 7
2. Google stopped supporting the embedded chrome browser under Win7,8(and older)
3. Valve embedded the chrome browser but was ok with the technical dept that would be incurred if they couldn't keep it up to date on modern Windows. After several many years they decided enough was enough(despite still attempting to support Win7 users until they couldn't anymore).

Their announcement is pretty clear. But no support doesn't mean they will force it specifically to not work under 7, but you're on borrowed time.

Anyway, here's the announcement:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

Its probably best to move up or to Linux or Mac to guarantee continued ability to launch your games. They won't remove your games, but launching in an unsupported OS will be... unsupported.

[Aachen]

Originally posted by Low Standards:

Is the the whole idea about not supporting Windows 7 about game preservation? If so, it is a good argument to discuss.

Can you explain the whole idea to which you refer? Not sure I’m flashing onto’t.

[Low Standards]

Originally posted by DarkCrystalMethod:

1. Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 7
2. Google stopped supporting the embedded chrome browser under Win7,8(and older)
3. Valve embedded the chrome browser but was ok with the technical dept that would be incurred if they couldn't keep it up to date on modern Windows. After several many years they decided enough was enough(despite still attempting to support Win7 users until they couldn't anymore).

Their announcement is pretty clear. But no support doesn't mean they will force it specifically to not work under 7, but you're on borrowed time.

Anyway, here's the announcement:
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

Its probably best to move up or to Linux or Mac to guarantee continued ability to launch your games. They won't remove your games, but launching in an unsupported OS will be... unsupported.

Thank you so much for your clear explanation of this issue and your detailed summary. If youcan get an idiot like me to understand you, you should consider a career in writing.

You do sound a little biased toward Steam though. Why can't a person who legally owns the computer with the games on it just play the games forever? Is this because they somehow need to validate the game online?

How do you think this affects game preservation?

[Low Standards]

Originally posted by Aachen:

Originally posted by Low Standards:

Is the the whole idea about not supporting Windows 7 about game preservation? If so, it is a good argument to discuss.

:kentconfused: Can you explain the whole idea to which you refer? Not sure I’m flashing onto’t.

Not to you.

[Komarimaru]

Not sure how game preservation suddenly came into the topic of dropping support for older operating systems. I can play every game I have on Steam and GoG, etc etc without issues.

[andreasaspenberg575]

gog and steam is different. steam`s client is mandatory while gog`s client is optional. gog`s games will therefore still work in older systems. some even have 32 bit installers, while steam have limited support for older systems. some games on steam however is available on gog and some is available on xbox.

[Low Standards]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Not sure how game preservation suddenly came into the topic of dropping support for older operating systems. I can play every game I have on Steam and GoG, etc etc without issues.

I can't see how why you would stick a blanket over your head and repeat "Steam is perfect! Steam is perfect!"

Clearly once money changes hands, you should be allowed to play your game forever, Internet or not. Operating System or not. I don't see how anyone can't understand that.

Even Nintendo, which charges you for the same game over and over and over again for each new system allows you to keep the games you purchased on the old machine so long as it physically hold up.

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by Low Standards:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Not sure how game preservation suddenly came into the topic of dropping support for older operating systems. I can play every game I have on Steam and GoG, etc etc without issues.

I can't see how why you would stick a blanket over your head and repeat "Steam is perfect! Steam is perfect!"

Clearly once money changes hands, you should be allowed to play your game forever, Internet or not. Operating System or not. I don't see how anyone can't understand that.

Even Nintendo, which charges you for the same game over and over and over again for each new system allows you to keep the games you purchased on the old machine so long as it physically hold up.

I've never once said Steam is perfect. I said I fail to see how game preservation has anything to do with operating system support.

I can still play all my games without issue, I can still access all my games without issue.

If anything, it was the Windows 7 users demanding in other threads that Steam drop older games, as Steam dropped support for Windows 7, due to their ignorance.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

even physical copies are not an ultimate way to preserve games on the long term without having to create and maintain backups.

modern consoles physical games like the switch are not using ROM chipset for their cartridges anymore (they're nand Flash) so they won't last the same 30-40 and more years like older 8 bit and 16 bit consoles does.

[Aachen]

Originally posted by Low Standards:

….Clearly once money changes hands, you should be allowed to play your game forever, Internet or not. Operating System or not. I don't see how anyone can't understand that ….

Clearly that’s not the case, hence the need for licenses, ToSes, EULAs, et cetera ….

[Low Standards]

PC Game and software preservation is very important to many people. It has it's own movement, usually centering around the "Internet Archive" but it goes large and wide. By not allowing the game to survive operating systems and Internet usage they are causing major damage to the PC gaming community.

One day a very large publisher is going to go out of business. The titles will be revoked by Steam and will you see the outrage. Even some here (hard to believe) will be included. Can't wait to see it.