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if I really want the gold Zelda, I can find it on ebay, like I said
the point was they aren't available retail from the manufacturer because the people making them stopped selling them, generally because they weren't making money
Your cited "Lukiegames" is literally a result of the thing you made your OP complaining about: manufacturers not continuing to sell out of date stuff.
are you following now?
they're. the. same. picture.
I will say; I appreciate the kind offer. I do. But I was making a point, not lamenting. If I ever do develop an interest in proving to myself just how beeping old I am (by trying to play games I had no problem with when I was an actual child), I'll keep it in mind. =)
Well Lukiegames is their own project entirely I do know some retro gaming stores provided by other individuals still sell stuff limited by supply. I would still be careful about that but also the delisting I am only concerned with Steam at this point. Glad you're keeping Lukiegames in mind they do got a wide collection. However if we were running out of these supplies what I wanna know is how is it still being provided to the retro gaming stores weird isn't it? Also you're never too old to pick up a video game I am learning how to play them on Linux with some small success but it's a work in process. I took the one persons suggestion to also make a GOG account so far the idea is pretty neat to look into if not I can always get them from specific sources but also I am as well a fan of the gold cartridges as long as developers of Steam can some how preserve licenses to older games I think we as the people should do something to help them out why don't they enable donation services to protect their license wouldn't that help out?
No, this is conspiracy stuff again. Quit with the brainrot. There were X produced, not all have sold, and again they're available in places like ebay. It's not 'weird', it's 'how the world works with items that are bought and sold'.
I...uh. Yeah, so, the games I played as a child required reflexes I no longer possess. Thus, they would be a reminder of my age. 'Never too old to pick up a video game' is true, but 'arthritis keeps some games off the table' is also true.
Just--no. That's not how it works. Steam is a storefront. Steam can't (and shouldn't be required to, or expected to) preserve somebody else's license. Games don't get removed from your library when they're delisted, that JUST means that you can't buy them (or can't easily buy them.) The licenses belong to their IP holders. Giving Steam money would not change Steam's relationship with those games. This is not even remotely reasonable. More brainrot.
A video game is a thing that somebody (or a company) made. They can choose to stop selling it. No wrongs are committed if they do so.
I'd also question the not worth selling argument, I wonder what the costs are if you aren't actively doing anything other than leaving a store page active on Steam.
Of course if anybody is really bothered by preservation they should be supporting GOG who are actively trying to do something about it.
https://www.gog.com/en/gog-preservation-program
You do realize that Valve, as a games publisher, has no interest whatsoever in removing potential game sales, right?
You do realize that the game developers, and NOT VALVE, are removing/delisting whatever games you're complaining about, right?
The ONLY two exceptions where Valve is delisting are for games containing criminal content (such as CSAM or malicious code) and those games which they are contractually obligated to remove (in which case, it's still not their decision, as they're merely enacting the previously expressed will of the game developer/owner).
there are costs (and they aren't insignificant), but explaining them in this setting is pointless, wasted work. if you look into it it's not hard to find, just hard for a layman to parse (and I don't feel like translating today)
They said Valve, not Steam. ^^ Valve actually IS a publisher, in addition to running the storefront, Steam.
Self-publishing does not make a company a publisher. If that was the case, that would mean I personally am a publisher, and I don't think that's true.
By all industry standards, Valve is considered a publisher. I don't care about your personal definition.
Does Valve provide money to a studio in exchange for a cut of the profits from the game they are making and partial creative control over the game? No? Then they are not a publisher. Self-publishing doesn't make you a publisher, just like if I were to drive a car to go somewhere that does not make me a chauffeur.
(Left 4 Dead)
Turtle Rock was acquired by Valve in 2008 and Tencent bought Turtle Rock in 2021.
And a ton of HL2 devs moved to Left 4 Dead development after Episode 2 released.
Wish game developers would just go back to physical copies on their websites like they did with older Windows to keep it for life guess the only real way is to hunt down an old copy of a game or get it on Abandonwaregames or something. Half the games we're paying for can literally be found on abandonware websites that offer them I don't think there's an actual need to get them on Steam but showing we're being submissive again I think even Undertale might offer a physical copy but I don't think Toby Fox would delist his games I will keep what I got but for retro gaming looks like a bummer relying on Steam and I guess I will go somewhere else if they don't want out money.
And that means that Valve isn't a publisher?
Steam takes a cut for items being sold on their storefront. it's the publisher of a given game that makes the decision, NOT STEAM. It has nothing to do with Steam wanting or not wanting your money. They have no capacity to force a business to make and sell something they don't want to sell.