BLOOD ASYLUM 19. aug. 2024 kl. 7.33
Haven't Given Steam Money In Over A Year
Feels good man. The reason: Community moderation, dishonest and defaming bans, junk games, more importantly failure to protect the consumer from EA scams.

Steam's totally anti-consumer. Until they turn it around Epic and others get my dollar.
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The only people who lament actually good free games being given to gamers, points earned to assist with future discounts on games, are shills from a competitor. Epic is superior. The only clout steam users can use is "forums."
No, that's not true. I use all platforms and launchers, including Epic, but I still see the business model Epic utilises as a bad thing for gaming and gamers. Their strategu is not to further gaming or promote devs, but to hurt other stores. It's the Walmart principle.

The main problem Epic still has is their lack of relevant catalog. As long as they keep a limited catalog that doesn't cater to people outside the mainstream and popular stuff, they'll never become real big. Just as GoG limits themselves.

And please stop this stupid nonsense black & white "us vs them" thinking you're doing. It's ridiculous. The world is all kinds of grey. Plenty of people here have simply opinions without any stupid agenda behind it.
oh ffs.

The strategy of Epic is to get people on their platform.
Epic is trying to create a competitive market, and Valve is doing everything it can to prevent it, so the only one out there trying to "hurt" other stroes, is Valve.

Epic is not the one using anti-consumer practices to eliminate price competition..that's Valve.

Epic is not the one threatening to de-list games if a developer sells them cheaper elsewhere...that's Valve.

Epic is not the one gouging developers for 30% of each sale...that's Valve.

Epic was not the one fined $4.000.000 for willful copyright infringement...that was Valve

Epic is not the one that was finned $1.600.000 for illigal GEO blocking...again...that was Valve.


Epic is slowly adding to its library, whereas Valve does not give a rat's ass what you sell, or if you even finish what you're selling as long as Gabe gets his cut.
If you were to take a step back and actually look at STEAM's library, you would see just how much of it is total garbage.


Valve / STEAM is worse for games and gamers than any other thing or service out there, so please, spare us such ridiculous comments and claims.
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AROCK!!! 22. aug. 2024 kl. 7.57 
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-Doesn't give money to a company because of the community hubs
-Gives money to Chinese spyware that sells your data

Ok.
A company who also has to pay devs so they can give out "free" games because their platform has next to no traffic compared to Steam.
yeah...having a large customer base / lots of traffic is what happens when customers don't have a choice for more than a decade.

Even so, Epic seems to be doing very well, even with these old"ish" stats, and keep in mind, Epic, unlike STEAM, has had competition from the beginning.

https://backlinko.com/epic-games-users


Epic is very smart giving away games, because very soon, if not already, there will be an entire new generation (and possibly older ones) of gamers with more games in their Epic library than their STEAM library, and they will also see Epic as the company that gave them a bunch of free stuff....Boggles the mind that some of you are too blind to see what is actually going on, but I guess that's how STEAM fanbois are wired.
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76561198407601200 22. aug. 2024 kl. 15.57 
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-Doesn't give money to a company because of the community hubs
-Gives money to Chinese spyware that sells your data

Ok.
A company who also has to pay devs so they can give out "free" games because their platform has next to no traffic compared to Steam.
This further fortifies how steam being under in 6 months is at best a pipe dream for some. If a company is needing to pay others to Stay on their platform while the other platform carries on in the black every year, it might be time for that company to start changing strategies, at least something other than sending people to the competition to remind them that there is competition.
BLOOD ASYLUM 24. aug. 2024 kl. 5.09 
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They created something others wanted and were willing to use. It would be pretty idiotic for someone to state valve would be under in 6 months when it has had all this time to go under but I suppose when wallets speaker louder than non-paying customers.
lol

They created something that was easier for developers, and that's all.

It seems you are too young to remember when STEAM first started, and how it was despised by the vast majority of gamers, and still is by many.
STEAM was not something others wanted, it was something that was slowly forced on us until it got to the point of HAVING to use STEAM if you wanted to play on PC.

Even developers are sick of Valve's greedy 30% cut, which is why you see more and more doing deals with Epic....well, that and the fact that many of them are openly outspoken about it.

Valve still acts like it's the only game in town, and that anti-consumer / anti- developer attitude is why more and more are going to other sources for their games.
Big Facts
Tezzious 24. aug. 2024 kl. 8.57 
funny thing with epic, the majority of games i have downloaded from them are actually steam games with steam app ID files in the directories lol.
Tezzious 24. aug. 2024 kl. 8.59 
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A company who also has to pay devs so they can give out "free" games because their platform has next to no traffic compared to Steam.
yeah...having a large customer base / lots of traffic is what happens when customers don't have a choice for more than a decade.

Even so, Epic seems to be doing very well, even with these old"ish" stats, and keep in mind, Epic, unlike STEAM, has had competition from the beginning.

https://backlinko.com/epic-games-users


Epic is very smart giving away games, because very soon, if not already, there will be an entire new generation (and possibly older ones) of gamers with more games in their Epic library than their STEAM library, and they will also see Epic as the company that gave them a bunch of free stuff....Boggles the mind that some of you are too blind to see what is actually going on, but I guess that's how STEAM fanbois are wired.
I have 367 games in my Epic library all free and not a single penny spent, I have literally spent 1 hour gaming via their games, just something about steam that is better.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 24. aug. 2024 kl. 10.05 
Op''s game badge updated again.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 24. aug. 2024 kl. 10.09 
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A company who also has to pay devs so they can give out "free" games because their platform has next to no traffic compared to Steam.
yeah...having a large customer base / lots of traffic is what happens when customers don't have a choice for more than a decade.

Even so, Epic seems to be doing very well, even with these old"ish" stats, and keep in mind, Epic, unlike STEAM, has had competition from the beginning.

https://backlinko.com/epic-games-users


Epic is very smart giving away games, because very soon, if not already, there will be an entire new generation (and possibly older ones) of gamers with more games in their Epic library than their STEAM library, and they will also see Epic as the company that gave them a bunch of free stuff....Boggles the mind that some of you are too blind to see what is actually going on, but I guess that's how STEAM fanbois are wired.
No what's going to happen is, Epic is going to go bankrupt because those games aren't free. Epic is paying devs to offer those games for free free on he Epic store.

It's not smart. It's also why they let go of about 1,600 employees.

There are 125 million active Dteam accounts. Epic does not have that many, not even close. No other platform does.

Yep, you can have a huge Epic library. Here's the thing though, Epic doesn't have any money to show for that either. It was all given to devs.

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Piston Smashed™ 24. aug. 2024 kl. 10.17 
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Op''s game badge updated again.

"I didn't buy it on Steam" loop hole activated.
Tito Shivan 24. aug. 2024 kl. 10.31 
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Epic is very smart giving away games, because very soon, if not already, there will be an entire new generation (and possibly older ones) of gamers with more games in their Epic library than their STEAM library.
They're also building a generation of junkies for free games.

Platform investment is indeed a thing, but you gotta build the right investment. And the main investment for many Epic users is reaping free game after free game.

Case in point:
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I have 367 games in my Epic library all free and not a single penny spent

Mind the fact that the Epic games giveaway was originally meant last only one year (a free game a month) and we're nearing the SIXTH year of free giveaways. (Free for users, Epic is burning money like there's no tomorrow to give away those games)

Also devs aren't correctly adressing the perception such large giveaways have for their own products. Remember what happened with deep Steam sales? It ingrained into people's head that games base price was the 75% off price. Now Epic is breeding the perception that games 'will be given away for free'... That's bound to have sales impact middle to long term.

Epic is just behaving like the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ uncle bringing gifts to the kids.
Koala 4peace 24. aug. 2024 kl. 10.37 
I don't have money on this race, and it is obviously a bait thread, but going to Epic because Steam is anti-consumer is kinda missing the point. Steam is indeed anti-consumer, but Epic is not better at all.
Night_Hunter023 24. aug. 2024 kl. 23.44 
Are you Jester farming?
Kargor 25. aug. 2024 kl. 1.44 
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I have 367 games in my Epic library all free and not a single penny spent

Seems their business model is really paying off these days, and the money is finally coming in?
Tito Shivan 25. aug. 2024 kl. 2.44 
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Seems their business model is really paying off these days, and the money is finally coming in?
I'm not sure their business model is to make money at all.
76561198407601200 25. aug. 2024 kl. 2.56 
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lol

They created something that was easier for developers, and that's all.

It seems you are too young to remember when STEAM first started, and how it was despised by the vast majority of gamers, and still is by many.
STEAM was not something others wanted, it was something that was slowly forced on us until it got to the point of HAVING to use STEAM if you wanted to play on PC.

Even developers are sick of Valve's greedy 30% cut, which is why you see more and more doing deals with Epic....well, that and the fact that many of them are openly outspoken about it.

Valve still acts like it's the only game in town, and that anti-consumer / anti- developer attitude is why more and more are going to other sources for their games.
Big Facts
Perhaps big in comparison to the one perceiving it. Personally I can't be bothered if they're unable to purchase games on Steam, that is their own issue to overcome and seem like small facts in comparison to me who doesn't suffer those same issues, thankfully. But yeah I can agree, big facts.



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Seems their business model is really paying off these days, and the money is finally coming in?
I'm not sure their business model is to make money at all.
Maybe if they make so much negative money it'll roll over into the positives.
BLOOD ASYLUM 25. aug. 2024 kl. 5.06 
The only people who lament actually good free games being given to gamers, points earned to assist with future discounts on games, are shills from a competitor. Epic is superior. The only clout steam users can use is "forums."
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