Master.Constructor 2024 年 6 月 15 日 上午 9:03
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Steam, Windows 7 - 2025
We're almost finished 2024 and we've had several Steam client updates as well as Windows 7 updates via UpdatePack7. So far Windows 7 seems to be running well and will carry me into 2025 at the very least.

I've been running Windows 7 since transitioning from XP after bypassing (and watching the fallout from) Vista. So far so good aside from DirectX12 and some driver restrictions.

I closely followed the roll-out of Win8, 8.1 and 10 waiting for a good time to transition to a newer OS, testing a few other options while I've been waiting (Linux, Windows Server, Tiny/Lite Windows). So far I haven't found anything that seems to worth the effort or privacy risks / compromise.

Windows 7 SP2/3?

In 2021 I found UpdatePack7 which is a monthly security pack for all editions of Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008R2 (seems to be in development since 2013) and have had very good results with it. There is a small ~1MB downloader program (v1.5.0.0) which will download and/or verify the update pack (~800MB). The latest release was three days ago (24.6.12) and no issues to report. It's a significant saving of bandwidth, time and drive space and I am very grateful for it's consistent and diligent development. It is essentially the SP3 that Win7 users were always waiting for.

If you're having issues on Windows 7 SP1, try running the following from CMD (as administrator) and post your results here.
chkdsk
sfc /verifyonly

Hint:
I find starting Steam offline is much faster and smoother. Here's my steps to starting Steam Offline:
1 - edit the file loginusers.vdf
... mine was located here: \Steam\config\loginusers.vdf
2 - change "WantsOfflineMode" from 0 to 1
3 - save and set file [Properties] to [Read-only]
4 - start steam to check

Also, to remove the red banner at the top I added this to my steam.exe shortcut:
-pretendeol-w10


Updates
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UpdatePack7 25.4.10 (Windows 6.1.7601.27666)
- Added KB5055561-x64 with disabling telemetry and checking processors (replaces KB5053620-x64)
- Added KB5056456-x64 (replaces KB5050681-x64)

UpdatePack7 25.3.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27615)
UpdatePack7 25.2.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27566)
UpdatePack7 25.1.15 (Windows 6.1.7601.27520)
UpdatePack7 24.12.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27412)

Steam Beta Branch: Stable Client
Steam Version: 1730853000
Steam Client Build Date: Thu, Nov 7 7:55 PM UTC -08:00
Steam Web Build Date: Wed, Oct 9 5:44 PM UTC -08:00
Steam API Version: SteamClient021

- UpdatePack7 2024.10.10 (Windows 6.1.7601.27366)
- Steam Version: 1726604483 (Tue, Sep 17, 2024)
最后由 Master.Constructor 编辑于; 4 月 18 日 下午 12:30
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bidulless 2 月 2 日 上午 3:18 
引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune
引用自 bidulless
hello
show us some juicy screenshot plz ,)
Why would you want a screenshot of me running Steam in Windows 7? Everyone already knows it works. You are the most confusing person I have ever met. However I will share with you anyway, it's one of my spare computers, not my main computer. https://i.imgur.com/vbPk1K1.png
hello
perfect so why are you constantly saying there is not update on w7 (ps ; it's a vm and trying to apply updatepack you know it's working unless beeing completly blind ( polite way of saying something else ) xd ) ??
because you do not see any on windows update ?
i am not fixing rules nor how things are working ,i just can see what's working , how and why ...
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/forum/askwoody-support/windows/windows-7/win7-beyond-end-of-life/
agree stupid name for a thread , knowing an os is not something living ....

ps ; use full screen next screenshot xd
最后由 bidulless 编辑于; 2 月 2 日 上午 3:34
引用自 bidulless
perfect so why are you constantly saying there is not update on w7 (ps ; it's a vm and trying to apply updatepack you know it's working unless beeing completly blind ( polite way of saying something else ) xd ) ??
because you do not see any on windows update ?
You might want to pay attention to the words I am writing when I write them. I think you are missing a very important single word: new.

I have constantly tried to remind people that there are no NEW windows updates. As in Microsoft is NOT releasing any new updates for Windows 7. I never stated that there are not updates for Windows 7. There are many updates for Windows 7 that Microsoft has released in the past. I have only stated that there are no NEW updates for Windows 7. The reason I am stating this is Microsoft has not released a single NEW update for Windows 7 since January 2024. Nothing new on the Microsoft catalog website has any update for Windows 7. You can not update Windows 7 if there is nothing new to update Windows 7 with (nothing released).

引用自 bidulless
ps ; use full screen next screenshot xd
I showed you the relevant information relating to what you asked for: Steam is working in Windows 7.
最后由 Ontrix_Kitsune 编辑于; 2 月 2 日 上午 5:09
bidulless 2 月 2 日 上午 5:12 
引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune
引用自 bidulless
perfect so why are you constantly saying there is not update on w7 (ps ; it's a vm and trying to apply updatepack you know it's working unless beeing completly blind ( polite way of saying something else ) xd ) ??
because you do not see any on windows update ?
You might want to pay attention to the words I am writing when I write them. I think you are missing a very important single word: new.

I have constantly tried to remind people that there are no NEW windows updates. As in Microsoft is NOT releasing any new updates for Windows 7. I never stated that there are not updates for Windows 7. There are many updates for Windows 7 that Microsoft has released in the past. I have only stated that there are no NEW updates for Windows 7. The reason I am stating this is Microsoft has not released a single NEW update for Windows 7 since January 2024. Nothing new on the Microsoft catalog website has any update for Windows 7. You can not update Windows 7 if there is nothing new to update Windows 7 with (nothing released).

引用自 bidulless
ps ; use full screen next screenshot xd
I showed you the relevant information relating to what you asked for: Steam is working in Windows 7.
hello
exactly what i posted why my old steam but not in vm but not let us show the steam release used xd
so i guess you can apply updatepack and discover by yourself it's working as intend so i wonder you continue posting surch ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ???
may be because you've gone too far and can't go back without let'ing people reading this thread thinking you're just a bullshiter ?
thrust is something so hard to gain , but something that can easily be so easy be lost and for for your own case, you have a negativ stack ...
最后由 bidulless 编辑于; 2 月 2 日 上午 5:33
引用自 bidulless
exactly what i posted why my old steam but not in vm but not let us show the steam release used xd
so i guess you can apply updatepack and discover by yourself it's working as intend so i wonder you continue posting surch ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ???
may be because you've gone too far and can't go back without let'ing people reading this thread thinking you're just a bullshiter ?
thrust is something so hard to gain , but something that can easily be so easy be lost and for for your own case, you have a negativ stack ...
If you're going to write bold statements like that in public then prove it: Find a Microsoft KB update on the Microsoft catalog website for Windows 7 (!NOT SERVER 2008! NOT WINDOWS EMBEDDED STANDARD 7!), dated on or after February 2024.
bidulless 2 月 2 日 上午 7:53 
引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune
引用自 bidulless
exactly what i posted why my old steam but not in vm but not let us show the steam release used xd
so i guess you can apply updatepack and discover by yourself it's working as intend so i wonder you continue posting surch ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ???
may be because you've gone too far and can't go back without let'ing people reading this thread thinking you're just a bullshiter ?
thrust is something so hard to gain , but something that can easily be so easy be lost and for for your own case, you have a negativ stack ...
If you're going to write bold statements like that in public then prove it: Find a Microsoft KB update on the Microsoft catalog website for Windows 7 (!NOT SERVER 2008! NOT WINDOWS EMBEDDED STANDARD 7!), dated on or after February 2024.
hello
seems you're circling on things you do not understand ...
windows 7 sp1, window server 2008r2, windows embedded are the same things more or less that explain why mikeysoft made only one update for all theses sku when it was the case ( remember what sha256 means , especially when applyed on server 2008r2 files and windows7 embedded , not counting the pkg.properties files directly included into both files xd )
no need to repeat myself i can't do anything for you ...
and the hearth is flat ... and we never gone to moon , it was a movie ...
nonetheless, you made astonishing progress , because now you are using a vm but despite than, still spreading ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and lies when you can do all the discovery and tests by yourself..
and please go post in askwoody ( you have the link just above ) and tell them the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ than you're posting here , i will be curious about their reactions xd

ps;
do not forget this post also xd
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6725643788915522918/?ctp=77#c595139465034353202
but may be english is not your nativ language so i can understand ...
最后由 bidulless 编辑于; 2 月 2 日 上午 8:25
引用自 bidulless
引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune
If you're going to write bold statements like that in public then prove it: Find a Microsoft KB update on the Microsoft catalog website for Windows 7 (!NOT SERVER 2008! NOT WINDOWS EMBEDDED STANDARD 7!), dated on or after February 2024.
hello
seems you're circling on things you do not understand ...
windows 7 sp1, window server 2008r2, windows embedded are the same things more or less that explain why mikeysoft made only one update for all theses sku when it was the case ( remember what sha256 means , especially when applyed on server 2008r2 files and windows7 embedded , not counting the pkg.properties files directly included into both files xd )
no need to repeat myself i can't do anything for you ...
and the heath is flat ... and we never gone to moon , it was a movie ...
nonetheless, you made astonishing progress , because now you are using a vm but despite than, still spreading ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and lies when you can do all the discovery and tests by yourself..
and please go post in askwoody ( you have the link just above ) and tell them the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ than you're posting here , i will be curious about their reactions xd

ps;
do not forget this post also xd
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6725643788915522918/?ctp=77#c595139465034353202
but may be english is not your nativ language so i can understand ...
Right: Just as I thought. You can't find an update for Windows 7 after Jan 2024 because it doesn't exist, as I have said repeatedly.

EDIT: My main problem with you (and a few others that I won't name in this comment) is folks are trying to convince others to continue using Windows 7 longer under the guise that they can continue updating the operating system with "new updates" from the server version of Windows 2008, thus making it safe to use on the internet. This is completely false because not only are those not Windows 7 updates but those updates don't even update anything in Windows 7 at all.

If I don't say something to correct you (and others) every time comments like this are posted then people would actually think that they're updating Windows 7 then try to go online with it and continue using it thinking they're safe when they are not safe.

The updates for Windows Server are NOT The same as updates for Windows 7.
Windows Server is NOT the same as Windows 7.
If an update is designed for Windows 7 then it will say Windows 7 on it.
If an update is NOT designed for Windows 7 (server or embedded) then it will not say Windows 7 on it.
You know all of this is true that I just wrote. You just continue trying to mislead people into a false sense of security by claiming they can update Windows 7 when you know they can not.

I don't understand why you would do this but what you are doing is VERY DANGEROUS! Someone has to step up and say something or other people might actually believe you and think they can update Windows 7 again.

Windows 7 can never be updated ever again after Jan 2024. There's nothing you, UpdatePack7, or any other person or app can do to change that fact. Every time anyone writes comments trying to claim there is some sort of "new update for Windows 7" I will be right here to correct those statements and make sure everyone knows that's not true.
最后由 Ontrix_Kitsune 编辑于; 2 月 2 日 下午 3:48
MonkehMaster 2 月 2 日 下午 3:54 
引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune

win 7, server 2008 and embedded are all the same, same updates and same kernel.

you have been shown this repeatedly, its not our fault you havent learned the facts.

as for "danger", id say your spread of misinformation is the only "danger" here.
最后由 MonkehMaster 编辑于; 2 月 2 日 下午 3:57
引用自 MonkehMaster
引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune

win 7, server 2008 and embedded are all the same, same updates and same kernel.

you have been shown this repeatedly, its not our fault you havent learned the facts.

as for "danger", id say your spread of misinformation is the only "danger" here.
*Sigh* Here we go again: No. That's not true and you know that's not true. Why do you keep doing this? You're trying to convince people it's safe to continue using Windows 7. It's not going to work as it's not true. I guess I need to go ahead and copy-paste what I wrote above and repeat it AGAIN. I feel like a broken record repeating this but I don't know what else to do. The moderators won't stop you. Someone has to do something.

Windows 7 can never be updated ever again after Jan 2024. There's nothing you, UpdatePack7, or any other person or app can do to change that fact.
bidulless 2 月 2 日 下午 11:11 
引用自 MonkehMaster
引用自 Ontrix_Kitsune

win 7, server 2008 and embedded are all the same, same updates and same kernel.

you have been shown this repeatedly, its not our fault you havent learned the facts.

as for "danger", id say your spread of misinformation is the only "danger" here.
hello

aye , and we can't do anything for him ...
here it's not an IT forum so he can say all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ he want but imagine if he would have said the same in the linked IT forum of web site i've asked him to post ,)
not counting that i do not really understand his audience target ..
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
w7 is 0.15% on steam ...
ps:
seems moderators has allready taken the choice for us and that for so many times like with his friend and not sur he will come back any sooner ( the other one at least , he learned the lesson) ...
最后由 bidulless 编辑于; 2 月 4 日 上午 10:12
46 2 月 11 日 下午 5:28 
Thanks valve for not only letting win 7 access steam but play online games too. i can no longer play valorant but i can still play dota 2 , Gonna ride win 7 into 2026:steammocking:
SqueakyTweaky 2 月 11 日 下午 10:12 
引用自 46
Thanks valve for not only letting win 7 access steam but play online games too. i can no longer play valorant but i can still play dota 2 , Gonna ride win 7 into 2026:steammocking:
Soon even this will end.
Ontrix_Kitsune 2 月 11 日 下午 10:39 
引用自 46
Thanks valve for not only letting win 7 access steam but play online games too. i can no longer play valorant but i can still play dota 2 , Gonna ride win 7 into 2026:steammocking:
With every month that passes the number of games you are able to play online will decrease.
bidulless 2 月 11 日 下午 11:09 
引用自 SqueakyTweaky
引用自 46
Thanks valve for not only letting win 7 access steam but play online games too. i can no longer play valorant but i can still play dota 2 , Gonna ride win 7 into 2026:steammocking:
Soon even this will end.
hello

aye sur
https://i.postimg.cc/gJKQsgLs/Capture.jpg
but surely not today nor this year i guess
最后由 bidulless 编辑于; 2 月 11 日 下午 11:40
引用自 bidulless
hello

and it's patch day xd
https://patchapalooza.com/
https://www.ghacks.net/2025/02/11/the-windows-security-updates-for-february-2025-are-now-available/
https://www.askwoody.com/2025/february-2025-updates-are-upon-us/
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/february-11-2025-kb5052038-monthly-rollup-14e0a741-1e67-4a79-8b7f-fed46bc61ebf
https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/releaseNote/2024-Feb
allready applyed by some win 7 user without any issues

and for my case, msrt is allready here and updated

Thanks! Already downloaded and I have two more PC's to update this month as I'm going to try dual-booting Win10/7 on the "new" laptops.

I really didn't want to get invested in Win10 until it was properly fixed but situations have changed so I'm deep in it now. Regardless, even when cleaned up using O&O ShutUp10 / AppBuster & CTT WinUtil, Win10 is a bit of a letdown with how slow and 'sticky' it feels. :/
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