Master.Constructor 15 jun, 2024 @ 9:03
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Steam, Windows 7 - 2025
We're almost finished 2024 and we've had several Steam client updates as well as Windows 7 updates via UpdatePack7. So far Windows 7 seems to be running well and will carry me into 2025 at the very least.

I've been running Windows 7 since transitioning from XP after bypassing (and watching the fallout from) Vista. So far so good aside from DirectX12 and some driver restrictions.

I closely followed the roll-out of Win8, 8.1 and 10 waiting for a good time to transition to a newer OS, testing a few other options while I've been waiting (Linux, Windows Server, Tiny/Lite Windows). So far I haven't found anything that seems to worth the effort or privacy risks / compromise.

Windows 7 SP2/3?

In 2021 I found UpdatePack7 which is a monthly security pack for all editions of Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008R2 (seems to be in development since 2013) and have had very good results with it. There is a small ~1MB downloader program (v1.5.0.0) which will download and/or verify the update pack (~800MB). The latest release was three days ago (24.6.12) and no issues to report. It's a significant saving of bandwidth, time and drive space and I am very grateful for it's consistent and diligent development. It is essentially the SP3 that Win7 users were always waiting for.

If you're having issues on Windows 7 SP1, try running the following from CMD (as administrator) and post your results here.
chkdsk
sfc /verifyonly

Hint:
I find starting Steam offline is much faster and smoother. Here's my steps to starting Steam Offline:
1 - edit the file loginusers.vdf
... mine was located here: \Steam\config\loginusers.vdf
2 - change "WantsOfflineMode" from 0 to 1
3 - save and set file [Properties] to [Read-only]
4 - start steam to check

Also, to remove the red banner at the top I added this to my steam.exe shortcut:
-pretendeol-w10


Updates
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UpdatePack7 25.4.10 (Windows 6.1.7601.27666)
- Added KB5055561-x64 with disabling telemetry and checking processors (replaces KB5053620-x64)
- Added KB5056456-x64 (replaces KB5050681-x64)

UpdatePack7 25.3.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27615)
UpdatePack7 25.2.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27566)
UpdatePack7 25.1.15 (Windows 6.1.7601.27520)
UpdatePack7 24.12.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27412)

Steam Beta Branch: Stable Client
Steam Version: 1730853000
Steam Client Build Date: Thu, Nov 7 7:55 PM UTC -08:00
Steam Web Build Date: Wed, Oct 9 5:44 PM UTC -08:00
Steam API Version: SteamClient021

- UpdatePack7 2024.10.10 (Windows 6.1.7601.27366)
- Steam Version: 1726604483 (Tue, Sep 17, 2024)
Senast ändrad av Master.Constructor; 18 apr @ 12:30
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Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:
Ursprungligen skrivet av MonkehMaster:
just connected an old xp laptop (with xp installed) to the net, with last version of firefox working on xp and low and behold, i can surf the web normally, unlike what others would lead others to believe... :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

is it safe? ofc not... but point being, it does what others claim it cant.

edit: thanks for the points :gk_smile:
You should provide a screenshot of the current version of firefox installed in XP and working (open -> about page showing firefox version). I've tried all sorts of things and none of the newer versions of firefox will install in Windows XP. It just stops at an error saying it requires a newer version of windows and refuses to install. How did you manage to get it installed in XP ?
hello
why does he need do that when yourself ,despite beeing banned so many times here about bs you posted never did the same ?
sorry but @MonkehMaster have a good place in the people i trust, but can i said the same for you , i seriously doubt ....
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.9.0esr/win32/en-US/
so stop try to ask for the burden of the proof when you can't even do the same for yourself and so spreading misinformation and bs into steam forum ...
Senast ändrad av bidulless; 5 jan @ 3:14
Ursprungligen skrivet av Princess Luna:
Ursprungligen skrivet av bidulless:
hello
sorry it's not possible because :
without steam.cfg ,steam is updating at launch to it last available release , first with the downloaded package in /package folder, then after trying to download the last available steam update for your os from the net and the last is , sorry to repeat that again, the exact screenshot i've posted and @crashed posted..
https://i.postimg.cc/br9dyw2d/Capture.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/6pbQMSX2/Capture.jpg
using steam.cfg.
Yes i dont have that file. Thanks for asking
hello
so post a screenshot of your steam client after pressed "check for update" with the client "about panel" and may be i will trust you, till that sorry no ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas
Senast ändrad av bidulless; 5 jan @ 2:59
Ursprungligen skrivet av bidulless:
hello
why does he need do that when yourself ,despite beeing banned so many times here about bs you posted never did the same ?
sorry but @MonkehMaster have a good place in the people i trust, but can i said the same for you , i seriously doubt ....
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.9.0esr/win32/en-US/
so stop try to ask for the burden of the proof when you can't even do the same for yourself and so spreading misinformation and bs into steam forum ...
They claimed that they were able to do it. If they can't prove it with a screenshot then they didn't actually do it / AKA made it up.
Steam Beta Branch: Stable Client
Steam Version: 1730853000
Steam Client Build Date: Fri, Nov 8 3:55 AM UTC -08:00
Steam Web Build Date: Thu, Oct 10 12:44 AM UTC -08:00
Steam API Version: SteamClient021

No beta chosen

https://postimg.cc/q6CcRnCL

Please tell me it is photoshop so we can move along
Ursprungligen skrivet av Princess Luna:
Steam Beta Branch: Stable Client
Steam Version: 1730853000
Steam Client Build Date: Fri, Nov 8 3:55 AM UTC -08:00
Steam Web Build Date: Thu, Oct 10 12:44 AM UTC -08:00
Steam API Version: SteamClient021

No beta chosen

https://postimg.cc/q6CcRnCL

Please tell me it is photoshop so we can move along
hello
no red banner and no "about steam" in screenshot sorry xd
if you need to hide wallet, do it under photoshop or whatever tools you are using ...
https://i.postimg.cc/6pbQMSX2/Capture.jpg
personaly i do not care for myself ,)
https://i.postimg.cc/Z5gbnGYx/Capture.jpg
Senast ändrad av bidulless; 5 jan @ 5:04
Your system is only unsafe if you dont use a Sandbox and a script blocker
Senast ändrad av Priest; 5 jan @ 5:06
Ursprungligen skrivet av Ontrix_Kitsune:
Ursprungligen skrivet av MonkehMaster:
just connected an old xp laptop (with xp installed) to the net, with last version of firefox working on xp and low and behold, i can surf the web normally, unlike what others would lead others to believe... :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

is it safe? ofc not... but point being, it does what others claim it cant.

edit: thanks for the points :gk_smile:
You should provide a screenshot of the current version of firefox installed in XP and working (open -> about page showing firefox version). I've tried all sorts of things and none of the newer versions of firefox will install in Windows XP. It just stops at an error saying it requires a newer version of windows and refuses to install. How did you manage to get it installed in XP ?

last version of firefox for xp is easily googled.... its 52.9.0 esr.

you trying to install the latest versions (current) beyond what was supported... is user error, though fair to say workarounds exist for newer versions.

no screenshots needed, its just as i said in my comment, last working version of firefox and win xp and off to surfing the web... safe or not.

also to mention, there are other browsers made specifically for xp (some for quite a few older OS's) to browse in "modern times", being updated and all...

anywho, i know its hard to grasp, but stuff doesnt magically stop working when not supported, it takes years or even longer before backend changes/connections etc.. start causing issues, assuming it ever stops working to begin with, this isnt limited to software either.
Senast ändrad av MonkehMaster; 5 jan @ 5:24
Ursprungligen skrivet av Priest:
Your system is only unsafe if you dont use a Sandbox and a script blocker
hello
i do not think i need to use a sandbox for using steam and playing my game nor using any other tools i have but thx for this so interresting advice xd
and for browsing the net, ff with some addons
Senast ändrad av bidulless; 5 jan @ 5:15
Ursprungligen skrivet av MonkehMaster:
last version of firefox for xp is easily googled.... its 52.9.0 esr.
That's not what you said. You said the last version of firefox, as in the last version released.. which is 134.xx, not 52.xx ... sigh.

Ursprungligen skrivet av MonkehMaster:
you trying to install the latest versions (current) beyond what was supported... is user error, though fair to say workarounds exist for newer versions.

no screenshots needed, its just as i said in my comment, last working version of firefox and win xp and off to surfing the web... safe or not.

also to mention, there are other browsers made specifically for xp (some for quite a few older OS's to browse in modern times).

anywho, i know its hard to grasp, but stuff doesnt magically stop working when not supported, it takes years or even longer before backend changes/connections etc.. start causing issues, assuming it ever stops working to begin with.
As typical for you: You completely made up something fake again and when someone questions you on it you move the goalposts around so it looks like you said something else. :steamfacepalm:
Ursprungligen skrivet av MonkehMaster:
just connected an old xp laptop (with xp installed) to the net, with last version of firefox working on xp and low and behold, i can surf the web normally, unlike what others would lead others to believe... :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

is it safe? ofc not... but point being, it does what others claim it cant.

edit: thanks for the points :gk_smile:

nope, looks like :steamthis: i stated exactally as i said.

no goal posted moved, no fake stuff being made up, sorry.. thats not how that works.
Senast ändrad av MonkehMaster; 5 jan @ 5:47
Ursprungligen skrivet av MonkehMaster:
random nonsense
*yawn* I wonder if some day you'll figure out that making up things in the steam forums won't work for you. Apparently not today.
The January 2025 Windows 7 update is out. Only installed on one PC so far but everything works as expected without issue.

UpdatePack7 25.1.15 (Windows 6.1.7601.27520)
- Added KB5050049-x64 with disabling telemetry and checking processors (replaces KB5048695-x64)
- Added KB5050681-x64 (replaces KB5039339-x64)
Ursprungligen skrivet av Master.Constructor:
The January 2025 Windows 7 update is out. Only installed on one PC so far but everything works as expected without issue.

UpdatePack7 25.1.15 (Windows 6.1.7601.27520)
- Added KB5050049-x64 with disabling telemetry and checking processors (replaces KB5048695-x64)
- Added KB5050681-x64 (replaces KB5039339-x64)
To anyone that finds this thread: This is completely false information.

KB5050049 & KB5050681 are both only for Windows Server 2008 (NOT Windows 7).

There has not been any new updates released for Windows 7 since January 2024. Windows 7 can not be updated at this time.
Senast ändrad av Ontrix_Kitsune; 18 jan @ 17:06
Ursprungligen skrivet av Master.Constructor:
The January 2025 Windows 7 update is out. Only installed on one PC so far but everything works as expected without issue.

UpdatePack7 25.1.15 (Windows 6.1.7601.27520)
- Added KB5050049-x64 with disabling telemetry and checking processors (replaces KB5048695-x64)
- Added KB5050681-x64 (replaces KB5039339-x64)

sounds good, looks like those nt6.1 updates are workin for ya.
These thread necros to change the topic are getting a wee bit out of hand.
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