Steam, Windows 7 - 2025

[Master.Constructor]

We're almost finished 2024 and we've had several Steam client updates as well as Windows 7 updates via UpdatePack7. So far Windows 7 seems to be running well and will carry me into 2025 at the very least.

I've been running Windows 7 since transitioning from XP after bypassing (and watching the fallout from) Vista. So far so good aside from DirectX12 and some driver restrictions.

I closely followed the roll-out of Win8, 8.1 and 10 waiting for a good time to transition to a newer OS, testing a few other options while I've been waiting (Linux, Windows Server, Tiny/Lite Windows). So far I haven't found anything that seems to worth the effort or privacy risks / compromise.

Windows 7 SP2/3?

In 2021 I found UpdatePack7 which is a monthly security pack for all editions of Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008R2 (seems to be in development since 2013) and have had very good results with it. There is a small ~1MB downloader program (v1.5.0.0) which will download and/or verify the update pack (~800MB). The latest release was three days ago (24.6.12) and no issues to report. It's a significant saving of bandwidth, time and drive space and I am very grateful for it's consistent and diligent development. It is essentially the SP3 that Win7 users were always waiting for.

If you're having issues on Windows 7 SP1, try running the following from CMD (as administrator) and post your results here.
chkdsk
sfc /verifyonly

Hint:
I find starting Steam offline is much faster and smoother. Here's my steps to starting Steam Offline:
1 - edit the file loginusers.vdf
... mine was located here: \Steam\config\loginusers.vdf
2 - change "WantsOfflineMode" from 0 to 1
3 - save and set file [Properties] to [Read-only]
4 - start steam to check

Also, to remove the red banner at the top I added this to my steam.exe shortcut:
-pretendeol-w10


Updates
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UpdatePack7 25.5.17 (Windows 6.1.7601.27717)
- Added KB5061196-x64 with disabling telemetry and checking processors (replaces KB5058430-x64)

UpdatePack7 25.4.10 (Windows 6.1.7601.27666)
UpdatePack7 25.3.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27615)
UpdatePack7 25.2.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27566)
UpdatePack7 25.1.15 (Windows 6.1.7601.27520)
UpdatePack7 24.12.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27412)

Steam Beta Branch: Stable Client
Steam Version: 1730853000
Steam Client Build Date: Thu, Nov 7 7:55 PM UTC -08:00
Steam Web Build Date: Wed, Oct 9 5:44 PM UTC -08:00
Steam API Version: SteamClient021

- Steam Version: 1726604483 (Tue, Sep 17, 2024)

[Amaterasu]

Postat inițial de Weird Pumpkin:

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

I mean, I stopped using Windows 7 almost 10 years ago and I stopped using Windows 8.1 last year. So I don't really have any experience with outdated OSes. I however have ran in circles of people who knew more about computers than I ever could without their help.So yes, I do know what I'm talking about.

Then can you confer with people who claim otherwise and show then why they're saying it is working on their setup?

Nice attempt at a trick question. What you are experiencing is a Placebo effect. Nothin more, nothin less.

[Meatflaps]

Postat inițial de Weird Pumpkin:

Please confer with us your results if you do this at some point if you wish to progress.

There is nothing to "Progress" as you have written. I'm sharing the truth about UpdatePack7. You don't like to hear the truth and refuse to accept it. You're the one with the issue here, not me.

[Meatflaps]

Postat inițial de MonkehMaster:

funny you had to bring up off topic stuff from a completely different thread, to try and avoid/deflect the fact that you claim these updates don't work, yet haven't even done the work to prove it.

It goes both ways: If you want me to prove something for you then you should also do what you ask me to do. Since you won't prove anything that you claim then I don't see a reason to bother wasting my time on you.

[MonkehMaster]

Postat inițial de Meatflaps:

Postat inițial de MonkehMaster:

funny you had to bring up off topic stuff from a completely different thread, to try and avoid/deflect the fact that you claim these updates don't work, yet haven't even done the work to prove it.

It goes both ways: If you want me to prove something for you then you should also do what you ask me to do. Since you won't prove anything that you claim then I don't see a reason to bother wasting my time on you.

your off topic again, you made claims here, thus proof is needed.

if you can't prove it, then don't claim it, or pretend your speaking the truth.

I'll be waiting for links to what you claim I said and proof of your tests on updatepack7.

have a nice day

[Meatflaps]

Postat inițial de MonkehMaster:

your off topic again, you made claims here, thus proof is needed.

if you can't prove it, then don't claim it, or pretend your speaking the truth.

You made claims over there, thus proof is needed. If you can't prove it then don't claim it or pretend to state it as true.

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I never claimed that these updates don't "work". They do "work" in that they do install just fine. The things I have claimed is that these updates don't fix anything in Windows 7. Sure they install. Sure they look like they installed. They just don't actually DO ANYTHING once installed.

This is just Windows 7 users clinging on to the last possible gasp of breath for their OS, thinking that they are updating it with UpdatePack7 when in reality it doesn't update anything, does not secure anything, and does not fix anything at all.

It literally does nothing other than to give Windows 7 users a bit of "peace of mind" in thinking they secured their OS. At least they feel safe after installing it, even if they aren't any safer than before they installed it.

[MonkehMaster]

other threads aren't part of this topic and isn't a way out of proving your claims, here in this thread.

it does work, glad you admitted to it, yet you still haven't tested anything, to say what it does or doesn't do.

now for the proof of claims of me saying things I never said, show me where i told people its safe and to install them.

have a nice day

[bidulless]

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

Postat inițial de Weird Pumpkin:

Then can you confer with people who claim otherwise and show then why they're saying it is working on their setup?

Nice attempt at a trick question. What you are experiencing is a Placebo effect. Nothin more, nothin less.

hello

nice placebo effect
https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/releaseNote/2024-Sep
directly taken from the
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/september-10-2024-kb5043092-security-only-update-3f4de4d7-c728-4a94-97ad-dd26f1a6676e
i guess ignorance is a bliss ....

i still wonder why thread about windows 7 always attract these kind of people when we are all here for playing game in a peacefull way, manner , whatever os we have choose to use ...

[Meatflaps]

Postat inițial de bidulless:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/september-10-2024-kb5043092-security-only-update-3f4de4d7-c728-4a94-97ad-dd26f1a6676e

Check that link that you just linked to. Do note right there at the top where it says "Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise ESU Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard ESU Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter ESU Windows Embedded POSReady 7 ESU". Those are the only versions of windows that this update should be installed in. It's very clear right there at the top of the page in plain English words.

[Amaterasu]

Postat inițial de bidulless:

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

Nice attempt at a trick question. What you are experiencing is a Placebo effect. Nothin more, nothin less.

hello

nice placebo effect
https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/releaseNote/2024-Sep
directly taken from the
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/september-10-2024-kb5043092-security-only-update-3f4de4d7-c728-4a94-97ad-dd26f1a6676e
i guess ignorance is a bliss ....

i still wonder why thread about windows 7 always attract these kind of people when we are all here for playing game in a peacefull way, manner , whatever os we have choose to use ...

Cause it ain't about being peaceful. These topics are about trying to gloat.

Also

Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise ESU
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard ESU
Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter ESU
Windows Embedded POSReady 7 ESU

None of these are Windows 7. Y'all are now trying to say that Industrial and Server versions of the 6.1 NT Architecture will work on Commercial versions. By the way, they've reached their End of life Today. So... not only are updates trying to be applied to the wrong version which will do nothing... now there won't be any more updates in the future, meaning there isn't a version of "Windows 7" that is supported in any way possible anymore.

[Meatflaps]

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

By the way, they've reached their End of life Today. So... not only are updates trying to be applied to the wrong version which will do nothing... now there won't be any more updates in the future, meaning there isn't a version of "Windows 7" that is supported in any way possible anymore.

Thank you for sharing this information. Now we know definitely and for sure that if this "UpdatePack7" ever claims to have new "updates" again in the future that it definitely is completely fake.

[bidulless]

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

Postat inițial de bidulless:

hello

nice placebo effect
https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/releaseNote/2024-Sep
directly taken from the
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/september-10-2024-kb5043092-security-only-update-3f4de4d7-c728-4a94-97ad-dd26f1a6676e
i guess ignorance is a bliss ....

i still wonder why thread about windows 7 always attract these kind of people when we are all here for playing game in a peacefull way, manner , whatever os we have choose to use ...

Cause it ain't about being peaceful. These topics are about trying to gloat.

Also

Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise ESU
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard ESU
Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter ESU
Windows Embedded POSReady 7 ESU

None of these are Windows 7. Y'all are now trying to say that Industrial and Server versions of the 6.1 NT Architecture will work on Commercial versions. By the way, they've reached their End of life Today. So... not only are updates trying to be applied to the wrong version which will do nothing... now there won't be any more updates in the future, meaning there isn't a version of "Windows 7" that is supported in any way possible anymore.

hello
sur xd
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/forum/askwoody-support/windows/windows-7/win7-beyond-end-of-life/

[Amaterasu]

Postat inițial de bidulless:

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

Cause it ain't about being peaceful. These topics are about trying to gloat.

Also

Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise ESU
Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard ESU
Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter ESU
Windows Embedded POSReady 7 ESU

None of these are Windows 7. Y'all are now trying to say that Industrial and Server versions of the 6.1 NT Architecture will work on Commercial versions. By the way, they've reached their End of life Today. So... not only are updates trying to be applied to the wrong version which will do nothing... now there won't be any more updates in the future, meaning there isn't a version of "Windows 7" that is supported in any way possible anymore.

hello
sur xd
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/forum/askwoody-support/windows/windows-7/win7-beyond-end-of-life/

Look, if you all want to keep applying updates to the wrong versions of windows and leave your computer vulnerable, then y'all must agree to blame only yourselves when someone takes advantage of those vulnerabilities. Cause it won't be anyone else's fault but your own.

I've got other things to do with my day than argue with people who think they know more than experts, friends of experts, or people in cybersecurity.

But I will say this, the fact that UpdatePack7 isn't distributed by Microsoft should've been the first major clue that it wasn't legit. The fact that it's thrown together by some guy in Russia should've been the second.

[bidulless]

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

Postat inițial de bidulless:

hello
sur xd
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/forum/askwoody-support/windows/windows-7/win7-beyond-end-of-life/

Look, if you all want to keep applying updates to the wrong versions of windows and leave your computer vulnerable, then y'all must agree to blame only yourselves when someone takes advantage of those vulnerabilities. Cause it won't be anyone else's fault but your own.

I've got other things to do with my day than argue with people who think they know more than experts, friends of experts, or people in cybersecurity.

But I will say this, the fact that UpdatePack7 isn't distributed by Microsoft should've been the first major clue that it wasn't legit. The fact that it's thrown together by some guy in Russia should've been the second.

hello
like the other poster , try to get knowledge about what you're talking about ... and come back if you want to have an interresting exchange with people posting here
and if you're against updatepack, that's something i can easily understand, try to developp why with some technical reasons other than it have a different label...

[Amaterasu]

Postat inițial de bidulless:

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

Look, if you all want to keep applying updates to the wrong versions of windows and leave your computer vulnerable, then y'all must agree to blame only yourselves when someone takes advantage of those vulnerabilities. Cause it won't be anyone else's fault but your own.

I've got other things to do with my day than argue with people who think they know more than experts, friends of experts, or people in cybersecurity.

But I will say this, the fact that UpdatePack7 isn't distributed by Microsoft should've been the first major clue that it wasn't legit. The fact that it's thrown together by some guy in Russia should've been the second.

hello
like the one poster , try to get knowledge about what you're talking about ... and come back if you want to have an interresting exchange with people posting here

Yes yes, child. Run your victory lap. Go tell everyone how you defeated the big bad villainess to protect Windows 7. Go tell everyone how you're the great big hero. Y'all ain't going to give a hint of consideration to something that doesn't confirm your biases, so I find no reason to continue, so run along and tell people how you "proved me wrong".

[MonkehMaster]

Postat inițial de Amaterasu:

tons of software isn't from Microsoft, guess unless it's from Microsoft, it's not safe?

also what does it matter what region someone is from, seems kinda rude to base trust and intent, against a person based on ethnicity

edit: and now resorting to insults and name calling...

have a nice day