Master.Constructor 2024 年 6 月 15 日 上午 9:03
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Steam, Windows 7 - 2025
We're almost finished 2024 and we've had several Steam client updates as well as Windows 7 updates via UpdatePack7. So far Windows 7 seems to be running well and will carry me into 2025 at the very least.

I've been running Windows 7 since transitioning from XP after bypassing (and watching the fallout from) Vista. So far so good aside from DirectX12 and some driver restrictions.

I closely followed the roll-out of Win8, 8.1 and 10 waiting for a good time to transition to a newer OS, testing a few other options while I've been waiting (Linux, Windows Server, Tiny/Lite Windows). So far I haven't found anything that seems to worth the effort or privacy risks / compromise.

Windows 7 SP2/3?

In 2021 I found UpdatePack7 which is a monthly security pack for all editions of Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008R2 (seems to be in development since 2013) and have had very good results with it. There is a small ~1MB downloader program (v1.5.0.0) which will download and/or verify the update pack (~800MB). The latest release was three days ago (24.6.12) and no issues to report. It's a significant saving of bandwidth, time and drive space and I am very grateful for it's consistent and diligent development. It is essentially the SP3 that Win7 users were always waiting for.

If you're having issues on Windows 7 SP1, try running the following from CMD (as administrator) and post your results here.
chkdsk
sfc /verifyonly

Hint:
I find starting Steam offline is much faster and smoother. Here's my steps to starting Steam Offline:
1 - edit the file loginusers.vdf
... mine was located here: \Steam\config\loginusers.vdf
2 - change "WantsOfflineMode" from 0 to 1
3 - save and set file [Properties] to [Read-only]
4 - start steam to check

Also, to remove the red banner at the top I added this to my steam.exe shortcut:
-pretendeol-w10


Updates
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UpdatePack7 25.4.10 (Windows 6.1.7601.27666)
- Added KB5055561-x64 with disabling telemetry and checking processors (replaces KB5053620-x64)
- Added KB5056456-x64 (replaces KB5050681-x64)

UpdatePack7 25.3.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27615)
UpdatePack7 25.2.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27566)
UpdatePack7 25.1.15 (Windows 6.1.7601.27520)
UpdatePack7 24.12.12 (Windows 6.1.7601.27412)

Steam Beta Branch: Stable Client
Steam Version: 1730853000
Steam Client Build Date: Thu, Nov 7 7:55 PM UTC -08:00
Steam Web Build Date: Wed, Oct 9 5:44 PM UTC -08:00
Steam API Version: SteamClient021

- UpdatePack7 2024.10.10 (Windows 6.1.7601.27366)
- Steam Version: 1726604483 (Tue, Sep 17, 2024)
最後修改者:Master.Constructor; 4 月 18 日 下午 12:30
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Zero 2024 年 7 月 18 日 下午 8:17 
引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|
引用自 Zero
This is fear-mongering nonsense.
Of course it is. That's why everyone with any sense is still using Windows 98. Oh wait....
Not even remotely close to the same thing. You clearly know nothing about how this stuff works. Most things that "aren't compatible" with W7 CAN BE MADE COMPATIBLE relatively easily. It's not even close to the same reason why W7/10 software can't run on W98.
Master.Constructor 2024 年 7 月 28 日 下午 1:14 
Just watching a review of Linux Mint 22 from ExplainingComputers. I've used Mint several times in the last 10 years or so, curious how things are coming along. If I move on from Windows 7 it could likely be to Linux Mint.

Linux Mint 22: Excellent Distro for Windows Users
ExplainingComputers - Jul 28, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZI6i21jB4
MonkehMaster 2024 年 7 月 30 日 下午 7:37 
引用自 Crashed
引用自 xBCxRangers
My Win 7 games running as good as ever.

From this oldtimer, THANK you MS and Mr Newell :steamhappy:
And why do you fight to stay outdated? Hopefully your PC doesn't have a Wi-Fi adapter in it or plugged into it.

that vulnerability is a part of win 10 and 11 as well, hope you don't have one on your PC, or have it disabled not only on your PC, but router as well.

oh wait, you can't hack wireless unless your near enough to see their router or PC wireless signal... nice try though.
最後修改者:MonkehMaster; 2024 年 7 月 30 日 下午 7:42
MonkehMaster 2024 年 7 月 30 日 下午 7:40 
引用自 VB Driver
I really really gonna parrot your nonsence about "muh security" when it's time to ditch outdated old Win10 and accept mandatory copilot+ with recall.

you can easily disable and/or remove copilot and anything else you don't want, my win 11 install has copilot, edge, bing, telemetry, ads/news, etc.. all removed and telemetry, ads/news disabled completely.
Crashed 2024 年 7 月 30 日 下午 7:56 
引用自 MonkehMaster
引用自 Crashed
And why do you fight to stay outdated? Hopefully your PC doesn't have a Wi-Fi adapter in it or plugged into it.

that vulnerability is a part of win 10 and 11 as well, hope you don't have one on your PC, or have it disabled not only on your PC, but router as well.

oh wait, you can't hack wireless unless your near enough to see their router or PC wireless signal... nice try though.
It's patched on Windows 10 and 11 because they are supported.
Crashed 2024 年 7 月 30 日 下午 7:57 
引用自 MonkehMaster
引用自 VB Driver
I really really gonna parrot your nonsence about "muh security" when it's time to ditch outdated old Win10 and accept mandatory copilot+ with recall.

you can easily disable and/or remove copilot and anything else you don't want, my win 11 install has copilot, edge, bing, telemetry, ads/news, etc.. all removed and telemetry, ads/news disabled completely.
Copilot has been downgraded to a web app in the upcoming Windows 11 24H2 update.
MonkehMaster 2024 年 7 月 30 日 下午 8:37 
引用自 Crashed
引用自 MonkehMaster

you can easily disable and/or remove copilot and anything else you don't want, my win 11 install has copilot, edge, bing, telemetry, ads/news, etc.. all removed and telemetry, ads/news disabled completely.
Copilot has been downgraded to a web app in the upcoming Windows 11 24H2 update.

doesn't matter, it's all removed/disabled already, despite microcraps try to disable those apps uninstall function.

引用自 Crashed
引用自 MonkehMaster

that vulnerability is a part of win 10 and 11 as well, hope you don't have one on your PC, or have it disabled not only on your PC, but router as well.

oh wait, you can't hack wireless unless your near enough to see their router or PC wireless signal... nice try though.
It's patched on Windows 10 and 11 because they are supported.

doesn't matter, you can't hack wireless signals unless you are near them and that's assuming they are left visible through settings.
最後修改者:MonkehMaster; 2024 年 7 月 30 日 下午 10:27
Master.Constructor 2024 年 8 月 5 日 下午 8:55 
Don't forget that Supermium gives you Chromium v124 at x32 or x64 on Windows 7.

"An up-to-date Chromium-based web browser compatible with Windows XP, 2003, Vista, 7 and 8.x."
https://win32subsystem.live/supermium/
Xautos 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 12:13 
引用自 Master.Constructor
Just watching a review of Linux Mint 22 from ExplainingComputers. I've used Mint several times in the last 10 years or so, curious how things are coming along. If I move on from Windows 7 it could likely be to Linux Mint.

Linux Mint 22: Excellent Distro for Windows Users
ExplainingComputers - Jul 28, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZI6i21jB4

Mint is the easiest distro to switch over to. please be aware there might be a need to make some adjustments and all the information on that can be found out there on the net, there are sites dedicated to community support so it won't be hard to get help if you need it.
Crashed 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 9:35 
引用自 Master.Constructor
Don't forget that Supermium gives you Chromium v124 at x32 or x64 on Windows 7.

"An up-to-date Chromium-based web browser compatible with Windows XP, 2003, Vista, 7 and 8.x."
https://win32subsystem.live/supermium/
My antivirus blocks that site.
Master.Constructor 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 10:36 
引用自 Crashed
引用自 Master.Constructor
Don't forget that Supermium gives you Chromium v124 at x32 or x64 on Windows 7.

"An up-to-date Chromium-based web browser compatible with Windows XP, 2003, Vista, 7 and 8.x."
https://win32subsystem.live/supermium/
My antivirus blocks that site.

Neat. I haven't run an antivirus on most of my PC's in the last two years.

I think you might need to find a better one. What are you running?
bidulless 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 10:41 
引用自 Master.Constructor
引用自 Crashed
My antivirus blocks that site.

Neat. I haven't run an antivirus on most of my PC's in the last two years.

I think you might need to find a better one. What are you running?
hello

i guess it's eset but no clue why, surely a false positive.
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/2effb810594551d6ff9c19aa360a06b97b949fe63934a6e2314923c67c2ccb3c/detection
https://www.hybrid-analysis.com/sample/14eef96eb490bedb06d0e9418ae7f1e08408b9122ff129a8e6dae65e7ca8c2e1
https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/win32subsystem.live?utm_source=hybridanalysis lol
and about eset , this is what i am using but like i do not like it mitm part , it's completly disabled on my side so no alert or anything
https://github.com/win32ss/supermium

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/4349988612573450321/?ctp=76#c4328600953645813010
最後修改者:bidulless; 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 11:09
Crashed 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 11:27 
引用自 Master.Constructor
引用自 Crashed
My antivirus blocks that site.

Neat. I haven't run an antivirus on most of my PC's in the last two years.

I think you might need to find a better one. What are you running?
Malwarebytes Premium. Not sure how long it will support Windows®️ 7 in the future.
Lily McFluffy Butt 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 11:31 
引用自 Master.Constructor
引用自 Crashed
My antivirus blocks that site.

Neat. I haven't run an antivirus on most of my PC's in the last two years.

Yikes, that explains a lot
bidulless 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 11:32 
引用自 Crashed
引用自 Master.Constructor

Neat. I haven't run an antivirus on most of my PC's in the last two years.

I think you might need to find a better one. What are you running?
Malwarebytes Premium. Not sure how long it will support Windows®️ 7 in the future.
hello

database def and engine detection surelly longer after the next update of it won't be able to run under w7 like it's the case for eset atm ( eset never offered me the 17.x during update as it does not run under w7 , exactly like steam will do xd )
https://i.postimg.cc/wjXbSt6P/Capture.jpg
https://help.eset.com/updates/?utm_source=go.eset.eu&utm_medium=redirector&utm_campaign=virushistory&utm_content=eav
https://help.eset.com/essp/17/en-US/whats_new.html?whats_new.html
hehe support stopped in november 2023 , that's been a long time xD

https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/business-security-test-2024-march-june/
https://www.av-comparatives.org/awards/
surprisingly the w10+ windows def is doing pretty well it job
最後修改者:bidulless; 2024 年 8 月 6 日 上午 11:54
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