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D. Flame 14 JUN 2024 a las 10:52 a. m.
Wukong dev reject $7 mil extortion from DEI
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The reason why the team behind "Black Myth: Wukong" has been subjected to persistent sexist attacks and slander since their first promotional video is because they have consistently refused political correctness guidance and rejected the extortionate guidance fees of millions of dollars demanded by these political correctness teams.

Actually, such teams are quite common in Europe and America. They interfere with works like "Assassin's Creed" "Dying Light 2 Stay Human" and "God of War" by pushing for politically correct female protagonists. These changes are the direct result of the interference and guidance of such teams.

Game science teams refuse to communicate with these groups and reject their interference. Most importantly, they refuse to pay the exorbitant $7 million in guidance fees. This is the direct reason why they are being attacked and slandered. Some justifications are based on the team's lack of diversity or representation, which doesn't align with the political correctness standards.

A typical example is an article by a major IGN writer criticizing "Hogwarts Legacy" and refusing to evaluate or promote it due to its alleged lack of political correctness.


How is this legal?
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Tito Shivan 9 SEP 2024 a las 12:16 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
Space Marine is based on a meme franchise about painting dolls.
Whatever you say.

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Even if you want to cry about the success being regional, it is still a record breaking success, despite the extortion threats it seemingly faced and all the hit pieces published against it.
If the success is only regional it breaks the narrative of 'Everybody is on the side of these devs'.
D. Flame 9 SEP 2024 a las 12:18 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Tito Shivan:
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
Space Marine is based on a meme franchise about painting dolls.
Whatever you say.
Not me saying it. Just the facts.

https://youtu.be/sxgJUp5A8f0?si=vLetEH3zlNxRsTsy
Última edición por D. Flame; 9 SEP 2024 a las 12:20 a. m.
Soren 9 SEP 2024 a las 12:52 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Tito Shivan:
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
But the jig was up, no one cared, and the game achieved record breaking success.
I'm still skeptical about it's 'record breaking success' being actually organical.

Yeah, sales figures are there BUT: They involve the chinese market which is going to create a significant deviation in sales figures. And I'm still seeing very little organical marketing of the game. There seems to be very little content of it out of the sphere of how the devs were 'anti-woke'. Not even on TikTok, which is a largely chinese-centric social site.

Take for example Space Marine 2. AFAIK their sales figures don't come close to Wukong, but the internet is already full of content about the game.

It still seems to me like the game was more of a regional success at which some people have jumped the bandwagon because they needed so bad to 'win' at something.
The super majority of those sales are behind China and will stay in China. The Steam numbers suggest around 80-90% of the playerbase are from China. And they're kind of locked behind the great firewall of China and not interacting with the rest of the internet.

What is interesting is that the devs or the CCP made sure to slash the price on the Chinese market. Probably because the Chinese aren't used to that kind of price model. If people want to compete in China, will they also have to set the prices down by 36% compared to the rest of the world? And will consumers eventually be mad when they realise Chinese consumers are getting treated better than them?

To me, when China said "we'll be the new prioritised game market and mandarin will become the first language of games now", that just probably won't be true so long as these issues are not resolved.
Última edición por Soren; 9 SEP 2024 a las 12:54 a. m.
Soren 9 SEP 2024 a las 1:03 a. m. 
Sorry, my post is wrong about setting the prices down 36%. I forgot plenty of publishers charge 70$ these days. So most publishers would potentially need to lower down their prices 45% for the Chinese market if they want to copy what Black Myth Wukong did. Not 36%.
Choko 9 SEP 2024 a las 4:01 p. m. 
Subtle treat kewl,

I like too also calling out such in wukong steam forum:

https://imgur.com/leRWJTE
Soren 9 SEP 2024 a las 4:10 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Choko:
Subtle treat kewl,

I like too also calling out such in wukong steam forum:

https://imgur.com/leRWJTE
The difference is your claims are probably real for all I know. Unlike OP's claims, where we got video evidence debunking and showing everyone was propping up a known liar, giving that liar fake credentials no less.
D. Flame 9 SEP 2024 a las 4:48 p. m. 
I am just glad it worked out and that their game sold well despite their undue hardships.
Boblin the Goblin 9 SEP 2024 a las 4:51 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Ignazzzio:
It's their game, they can do whatever they want, as long as it's not illegal. After all, every developer that makes a simple mistake is criticized, more nowadays, if it doesn't follow the standards.
The issue is there's no evidence that what is claimed is true.

The user who started the rumor is known to just blatantly make ♥♥♥♥ up.
VB Driver 9 SEP 2024 a las 4:52 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
English:

The reason why the team behind "Black Myth: Wukong" has been subjected to persistent sexist attacks and slander since their first promotional video is because they have consistently refused political correctness guidance and rejected the extortionate guidance fees of millions of dollars demanded by these political correctness teams.

Actually, such teams are quite common in Europe and America. They interfere with works like "Assassin's Creed" "Dying Light 2 Stay Human" and "God of War" by pushing for politically correct female protagonists. These changes are the direct result of the interference and guidance of such teams.

Game science teams refuse to communicate with these groups and reject their interference. Most importantly, they refuse to pay the exorbitant $7 million in guidance fees. This is the direct reason why they are being attacked and slandered. Some justifications are based on the team's lack of diversity or representation, which doesn't align with the political correctness standards.

A typical example is an article by a major IGN writer criticizing "Hogwarts Legacy" and refusing to evaluate or promote it due to its alleged lack of political correctness.


How is this legal?
That's fake news.
D. Flame 9 SEP 2024 a las 5:12 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por VB Driver:
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:


How is this legal?
That's fake news.
See:



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Publicado originalmente por Xx_AtOM-_-JAKARTA_xX:

The only thing that this video explains (besides the numerous dishonest argument like at 9:57 where he claims that "lunatic conspiracists think all medias and journalists are linked together" whereas it was only between IGN and SBI (blatant dishonesty)) is that the 7M number is uncertain. But the extorsion technics have been comfirmed by the SBI CEO back in 2019.

You've asked us the question, so let me ask it again in return : Are you guys really interested in the truth, or only the stuff that suits your views ?
The subtle threat was made, and the devs disregaded it. Then when got plenty of proof that it was real when various articles came out bashing the game for the exact things the threat referenced.

But the jig was up, no one cared, and the game achieved record breaking success.

These jesters lose their power when you drag their schemes into the light.

Just a few examples:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/rs-gaming/black-myth-wukong-controversy-explained-1235084372/
"(...) providing a deep look into misogynistic remarks that plagued the game’s development, and a toxic work culture."

https://apnews.com/article/black-myth-wukong-controversy-game-science-sexism-f95cd1b9fc8fd20f9dafd1a43ec51048
" A blockbuster new Chinese video game hailed as a milestone for the country’s gaming industry has put an unexpected spotlight on longstanding claims of rampant sexism in China’s male-dominated gaming culture."

https://www.ign.com/articles/how-black-myth-wukong-developers-history-of-sexism-is-complicating-its-journey-to-the-west

The link speaks for itself on this one.

You can't claim this was all an unfounded conspiracy theory when the evidence is all right there for everyone to read, plain as day. They were seemingly extorted (or is it blackmailed?) if they didn't pay, they refused, and we got the exact hit piece articles that where originally threatened.

And the gamers have spoke with their wallets. The whole Kane and Lynch incident should be proof enough that game "journalists" have been corrupt for decades, so I don't get why some of you are trying to pretend that these so-called journalists are beyond reproach.


So there is plenty of evidence to suggest that it was actually real.
Doctor Zalgo 9 SEP 2024 a las 5:27 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
Publicado originalmente por VB Driver:
That's fake news.
See:



Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
The subtle threat was made, and the devs disregaded it. Then when got plenty of proof that it was real when various articles came out bashing the game for the exact things the threat referenced.

But the jig was up, no one cared, and the game achieved record breaking success.

These jesters lose their power when you drag their schemes into the light.

Just a few examples:






The link speaks for itself on this one.

You can't claim this was all an unfounded conspiracy theory when the evidence is all right there for everyone to read, plain as day. They were seemingly extorted (or is it blackmailed?) if they didn't pay, they refused, and we got the exact hit piece articles that where originally threatened.

And the gamers have spoke with their wallets. The whole Kane and Lynch incident should be proof enough that game "journalists" have been corrupt for decades, so I don't get why some of you are trying to pretend that these so-called journalists are beyond reproach.


So there is plenty of evidence to suggest that it was actually real.

Or to look at this another way. SBI went to a company with a bad reputation and said 'hey, we can help you fix your reputation so the press doesn't ♥♥♥♥ on you' and then when they said no, you'll never guess what happened next.

Consulting companies have been laundering product, people and business reputations for as long as there have been consulting companies.

(I am genuinely entertained by the fact that the SBi drama is just the alt-right not knowing what a consulting firm is.)
Última edición por Doctor Zalgo; 9 SEP 2024 a las 5:30 p. m.
Boblin the Goblin 9 SEP 2024 a las 5:49 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Doctor Zalgo:
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
See:






So there is plenty of evidence to suggest that it was actually real.

Or to look at this another way. SBI went to a company with a bad reputation and said 'hey, we can help you fix your reputation so the press doesn't ♥♥♥♥ on you' and then when they said no, you'll never guess what happened next.

Consulting companies have been laundering product, people and business reputations for as long as there have been consulting companies.

(I am genuinely entertained by the fact that the SBi drama is just the alt-right not knowing what a consulting firm is.)
SBI went past consulting.

Going to a company and saying "Hey, if you pay us to help you with your projects, there won't be bad press about you." isn't consulting, it borderline extortion.

If the company approaches the consulting company on their own, that's different.
Doctor Zalgo 9 SEP 2024 a las 5:53 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Boblin the Goblin:
Publicado originalmente por Doctor Zalgo:

Or to look at this another way. SBI went to a company with a bad reputation and said 'hey, we can help you fix your reputation so the press doesn't ♥♥♥♥ on you' and then when they said no, you'll never guess what happened next.

Consulting companies have been laundering product, people and business reputations for as long as there have been consulting companies.

(I am genuinely entertained by the fact that the SBi drama is just the alt-right not knowing what a consulting firm is.)
SBI went past consulting.

Going to a company and saying "Hey, if you pay us to help you with your projects, there won't be bad press about you." isn't consulting, it borderline extortion.

If the company approaches the consulting company on their own, that's different.

Did you see the pitch they made? Or are you just relying on people who are very clearly acting in bad faith.
Boblin the Goblin 9 SEP 2024 a las 5:53 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Doctor Zalgo:
Publicado originalmente por Boblin the Goblin:
SBI went past consulting.

Going to a company and saying "Hey, if you pay us to help you with your projects, there won't be bad press about you." isn't consulting, it borderline extortion.

If the company approaches the consulting company on their own, that's different.

Did you see the pitch they made? Or are you just relying on people who are very clearly acting in bad faith.
I'm relying on what their CEO said when talking about their company at a conference.
Doctor Zalgo 9 SEP 2024 a las 5:55 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Boblin the Goblin:
Publicado originalmente por Doctor Zalgo:

Did you see the pitch they made? Or are you just relying on people who are very clearly acting in bad faith.
I'm relying on what their CEO said when talking about their company at a conference.

So he reported them to the FBI for extortion right? (Because you know, finding someone to blame for all the bad press you were just told you were going to get is brilliant.)
Última edición por Doctor Zalgo; 9 SEP 2024 a las 5:56 p. m.
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