VALVE FACES $840 MILLION STEAM LAWSUIT IN UK COURT

[RANGER]

The news says:
"In the United Kingdom, it has been revealed that Valve is facing a £656 million ($840 million) lawsuit, with accusations surfacing that the tech titan is using Steam to ‘take advantage of UK gamers’. At the heart of the suit is the claim that Valve has been ‘rigging the market’ for years, shutting out competition and holding a monopoly over the PC gaming market."

I, for one, appreciate what Steam is offering and I like them holding a monopoly over the PC gaming market. Why would I have to use 10 different platforms for the games I want to play?

We need to defend Steam at all costs; Epic Games offers hundreds of thousands of dollars to game developers just to make them release their game on Epic Games only. I have never heard of Steam doing that. Competition is good and all, but I feel like it is good for gamers to have Steam as we do today. It is like saying YouTube holds a monopoly over Dailymotion; the reason you use YouTube is because it is simply better than its alternatives. It applies the same with Steam too; Steam is far more sophisticated than any of its alternatives.

I love Steam

[mldb88]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Not sure why the threads even going on still. Even developers are laughing at this suite and the Wolfire suite. They are both a joke.

The court proceeding are what matters, not your impression of developer opinion

If that’s the case, funny that you can’t even get that straight. Yet another anti-valve misinformation campaign, but then again, this is nothing new coming from you

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Not sure why the threads even going on still. Even developers are laughing at this suite and the Wolfire suite. They are both a joke.

The court proceeding are what matters, not your impression of developer opinion

They won't even go to court, since would be laughed out in court. Steam doesn't set prices, Devs/Publishers do. Steam Keys don't get Steam ANY money when sold on other sites like Humble Bundle, Itchio etc.

The list goes on and on and on.

It's a joke suite, the fact you think it will do anything, says a lot about you.

[CEO Hunter]

You can laugh at the wolfire suite but it rocked mr yacht's boat when the court ordered him to get off his backside and show up to court.

https://www.pcgamer.com/court-rules-gabe-newell-must-appear-in-person-to-testify-in-steam-anti-trust-lawsuit/

[CEO Hunter]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

The court proceeding are what matters, not your impression of developer opinion

They won't even go to court, since would be laughed out in court. Steam doesn't set prices, Devs/Publishers do. Steam Keys don't get Steam ANY money when sold on other sites like Humble Bundle, Itchio etc.

The list goes on and on and on.

It's a joke suite, the fact you think it will do anything, says a lot about you.

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The wolfire case wasn't laughed out of court.. #Facts

Your god emperor technocrat yacht admiral is not above the courts

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

They won't even go to court, since would be laughed out in court. Steam doesn't set prices, Devs/Publishers do. Steam Keys don't get Steam ANY money when sold on other sites like Humble Bundle, Itchio etc.

The list goes on and on and on.

It's a joke suite, the fact you think it will do anything, says a lot about you.

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The wolfire case wasn't laughed out of court.. #Facts

Your god emperor technocrat yacht admiral is not above the courts

It's been laughed out of court several times. The only reason it's still active, is because the Judge is waiting for them to prove that Steam controls the prices of games outside of the Steam Ecosystem as they are trying to claim.

Guess what? Steam doesn't. Why ya think it's taking soooooo long to get to court? They keep delaying it, hoping Valve will settle. Valve won't and has enough money to keep it in court forever, due to their lack of evidence.

[CEO Hunter]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

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The wolfire case wasn't laughed out of court.. #Facts

Your god emperor technocrat yacht admiral is not above the courts

It's been laughed out of court several times. The only reason it's still active, is because the Judge is waiting for them to prove that Steam controls the prices of games outside of the Steam Ecosystem as they are trying to claim.

Guess what? Steam doesn't. Why ya think it's taking soooooo long to get to court? They keep delaying it, hoping Valve will settle. Valve won't and has enough money to keep it in court forever, due to their lack of evidence.

Provide citation where court documents indicate Judges laughing.


Judge is waiting for them to prove that Steam controls the prices of games outside of the Steam Ecosystem as they are trying to claim"" = case being heard. Not laughed out of court.

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

It's been laughed out of court several times. The only reason it's still active, is because the Judge is waiting for them to prove that Steam controls the prices of games outside of the Steam Ecosystem as they are trying to claim.

Guess what? Steam doesn't. Why ya think it's taking soooooo long to get to court? They keep delaying it, hoping Valve will settle. Valve won't and has enough money to keep it in court forever, due to their lack of evidence.

Provide citation where court documents indicate Judges laughing.

Where you the one refusing to provide court documents where you claimed a judge accused them of lying.

Gotta love the hypocrisy

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

It's been laughed out of court several times. The only reason it's still active, is because the Judge is waiting for them to prove that Steam controls the prices of games outside of the Steam Ecosystem as they are trying to claim.

Guess what? Steam doesn't. Why ya think it's taking soooooo long to get to court? They keep delaying it, hoping Valve will settle. Valve won't and has enough money to keep it in court forever, due to their lack of evidence.

Provide citation where court documents indicate Judges laughing.


Judge is waiting for them to prove that Steam controls the prices of games outside of the Steam Ecosystem as they are trying to claim"" = case being heard. Not laughed out of court.

As it stands right now, Wolfire/Dark Catt after discovery are waiting to see if they can file for a Class Certification, while Valve is pushing to go to court after Discovery phase.

You know what I meant by a judge laughing, knowing full well it's a legal amusement that they are still trying.

All I know is, if Valve is happy to go forwards, sounds like Discovery was great for them.

[CEO Hunter]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Provide citation where court documents indicate Judges laughing.


Judge is waiting for them to prove that Steam controls the prices of games outside of the Steam Ecosystem as they are trying to claim"" = case being heard. Not laughed out of court.

As it stands right now, Wolfire/Dark Catt after discovery are waiting to see if they can file for a Class Certification, while Valve is pushing to go to court after Discovery phase.

You know what I meant by a judge laughing, knowing full well it's a legal amusement that they are still trying.

All I know is, if Valve is happy to go forwards, sounds like Discovery was great for them.

If the case goes ahead, that is antithesis to laughed out of court. That's called a case being heard

[CEO Hunter]

You know what I meant by a judge laughing, knowing full well it's a legal amusement that they are still trying.

Judges don't waste time on legal amusement. like that

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

As it stands right now, Wolfire/Dark Catt after discovery are waiting to see if they can file for a Class Certification, while Valve is pushing to go to court after Discovery phase.

You know what I meant by a judge laughing, knowing full well it's a legal amusement that they are still trying.

All I know is, if Valve is happy to go forwards, sounds like Discovery was great for them.

If the case goes ahead, that is antithesis to laughed out of court. That's called a case being heard

Like I said, and I'll repeat it. Wolfire/Dark Catt are struggling to file for Class Certification after Discovery. They need this, since as it stands right now, the Judge has already stated that individuals must go through arbitration.

Here's the problem, the arbitrators were exposed as scammers, and are themselves now being sued by Valve for abusing the legal process and trying to force settlements with no true case.

So Wolfire/Dark Catt are hoping they can get Class Certification to extend the time(They have until the end of June this year) and try and force a settlement from Valve, instead of going to court, using those few individuals to help support their case.

I personally am excited for it to go to court, to expose the truth, no matter the outcome. Since either way, no matter who wins, will have a major impact on the digital sales around the world.

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

If the case goes ahead, that is antithesis to laughed out of court. That's called a case being heard

Like I said, and I'll repeat it. Wolfire/Dark Catt are struggling to file for Class Certification after Discovery. They need this, since as it stands right now, the Judge has already stated that individuals must go through arbitration.

Here's the problem, the arbitrators were exposed as scammers, and are themselves now being sued by Valve for abusing the legal process and trying to force settlements with no true case.

So Wolfire/Dark Catt are hoping they can get Class Certification to extend the time(They have until the end of June this year) and try and force a settlement from Valve, instead of going to court, using those few individuals to help support their case.

I personally am excited for it to go to court, to expose the truth, no matter the outcome. Since either way, no matter who wins, will have a major impact on the digital sales around the world.

And since Caravansilly says, it's the ongoing lawsuit that counts, so the arbiters being sued clearly means they are wrong.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Here's the problem, the arbitrators were exposed as scammers, and are themselves now being sued by Valve for abusing the legal process and trying to force settlements with no true case.

Valve has no connection with the law firm that attempted to extort millions of dollars from Valve. Their plan was to file a huge number of arbitration requests for fraudulent reasons and hope that Valve would accept their demands for money to have them drop all the cases.

The law firm knew they would lose and was planning to withdraw the arbitration requests if it didn't look like Valve was going to cave and just give them the money they wanted.

Valve's lawsuit includes a presentation the law firm made explaining their own scam to investors.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/column-mass-arbitration-target-valve-accuses-law-firm-litigation-funder-2023-12-08/
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/valve-extortion

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Here's the problem, the arbitrators were exposed as scammers, and are themselves now being sued by Valve for abusing the legal process and trying to force settlements with no true case.

Valve has no connection with the law firm that attempted to extort millions of dollars from Valve. Their plan was to file a huge number of arbitration requests for fraudulent reasons and hope that Valve would accept their demands for money to have them drop all the cases.

The law firm knew they would lose and was planning to withdraw the arbitration requests if it didn't look like Valve was going to cave and just give them the money they wanted.

Valve's lawsuit includes a presentation the law firm made explaining their own scam to investors.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/column-mass-arbitration-target-valve-accuses-law-firm-litigation-funder-2023-12-08/
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/valve-extortion

I think you misunderstood me.

I never said Valve was connected to any of the firms. Mason LLP took the crusade to be the arbitrator for everyone "Affected by the Wolfire Case" Using the same points Wolfire did.

I posted those links a year ago almost, when showed others in another thread about the arbitration suite, being a scam.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Valve has no connection with the law firm that attempted to extort millions of dollars from Valve. Their plan was to file a huge number of arbitration requests for fraudulent reasons and hope that Valve would accept their demands for money to have them drop all the cases.

The law firm knew they would lose and was planning to withdraw the arbitration requests if it didn't look like Valve was going to cave and just give them the money they wanted.

Valve's lawsuit includes a presentation the law firm made explaining their own scam to investors.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/column-mass-arbitration-target-valve-accuses-law-firm-litigation-funder-2023-12-08/
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/valve-extortion

I think you misunderstood me.

I never said Valve was connected to any of the firms. Mason LLP took the crusade to be the arbitrator for everyone "Affected by the Wolfire Case" Using the same points Wolfire did.

I posted those links a year ago almost, when showed others in another thread about the arbitration suite, being a scam.

I should not be reading posts when I'm sleepy. Oops!