Hidden Profile?

[Wolfsun]

Every now and then I'll get a reply to a post I made that shows the poster to be upset by my hidden profile. I hide it for good reason. 'nuff said.

What I'd really like to know is why does encountering a hidden profile bother some people so much? Why do they need to know how many games I have and what they are and how many hours I've put into them? Why is it important to see my badges, my steam level and what ever else is in the profile?

What's the deal?

[MonkehMaster]

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

MonkehMaster původně napsal:

wrong, "naughty" pictures are not allowed on steam profiles, forums, ect.. they are only allowed on the games own screenshots section, they are not to be displayed anywhere else.

might want to read up on steams rules/guidelines...

That was what was talking about. The screenschots from the owned/played games a 'private profile' made. Showing non Steam game screenshots on a profile is not a Steam feature.

you can show pictures, screenshots, ect... from where ever you want on your profile (ie... pics/ect.. off the web, your computer, camera, pics you made with some editing software, ect..), "naughty" pictures/screenshots/ect... are not allowed..... and has zero to do with profile privacy.

i have also seen and reported many users with public profiles that have "naughty" screenshots/artwork.

[Paratech2008]

Why do people believe they have the right to look at strangers profiles? People have a right to privacy. There are scammers who attack open profiles particularly when they get to see people's inventories. Maybe people ought to learn to accept the facts that they have -0- right to demand a right to see people's profiles.

[Tito Shivan]

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

Being a level zero is fine, but it's pretty lame if you do it when you are an active community member.

The old forums worked for years without being linked to Steam profiles

I actually liked that better than what we have now. I miss the old SPUF so much.

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

I don't agree. So many people full of BS in game discussions that can't back up what they say, because they keep their profile hidden.

If you need to check on someone's profile to back up a point you're already on the wrong track.

[B✪✪tsy]

MonkehMaster původně napsal:

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

That was what was talking about. The screenschots from the owned/played games a 'private profile' made. Showing non Steam game screenshots on a profile is not a Steam feature.

you can show pictures, screenshots, ect... from where ever you want on your profile, "naughty" pictures/screenshots/ect... are not allowed..... and has zero to do with profile privacy.

i have also seen and reported many users with public profiles that have "naughty" screenshots/artwork.

You can report everything you want, but if it's not nude and sexual and from a Steam game then it does not violate the ToS.

[MonkehMaster]

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

MonkehMaster původně napsal:

you can show pictures, screenshots, ect... from where ever you want on your profile, "naughty" pictures/screenshots/ect... are not allowed..... and has zero to do with profile privacy.

i have also seen and reported many users with public profiles that have "naughty" screenshots/artwork.

You can report everything you want, but if it's not nude and sexual and from a Steam game then it does not violate the ToS.

doesnt matter if its from a steam game, if it has anything against the tos, then it can be reported and removed, for nudity/sexual/adult content, then it is to only be posted in the games own screenshot/artwork section and even then some of that can be reported and removed, unless ofc they censor it.

[Nïċḵ]

Paratech2008 původně napsal:

Why do people believe they have the right to look at strangers profiles? People have a right to privacy. There are scammers who attack open profiles particularly when they get to see people's inventories. Maybe people ought to learn to accept the facts that they have -0- right to demand a right to see people's profiles.

I don't believe I have a right to your information.

At least from my experience, it makes it harder for one to believe whatever crap others have to say on a forum of a game they don't own if they also just so happen to have a private profile on top of that.

[MonkehMaster]

Nick původně napsal:

Paratech2008 původně napsal:

Why do people believe they have the right to look at strangers profiles? People have a right to privacy. There are scammers who attack open profiles particularly when they get to see people's inventories. Maybe people ought to learn to accept the facts that they have -0- right to demand a right to see people's profiles.

I don't believe I have a right to your information.

At least from my experience, it makes it harder for one to believe whatever crap others have to say on a forum of a game they don't own if they also just so happen to have a private profile on top of that.

as mentioned, a person that owns or doesnt, will either not have or have a mouse icon next to their user name in said games respective game forum here on steam (hover your mouse over said icon also shows a popup saying "has "game name".

private/friends only has no bearing on ownership.

[Serendipity]

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

Being a level zero is fine, but it's pretty lame if you do it when you are an active community member. It's just good standards to be transparant and have your profile visible when engaging in forum discussions, people will take you a bit more serious that way with game discussions.

This post shows you do not know regarding how the system works Zero level profile is only shown to people not on their friend list.

I would love to know why some people get angsy over private profiles! is it because you cannot troll through profiles just to pick up ammunition to use on people ?

It is bordering on prejudice how some of you talk. PPM (private profiles matter)

[B✪✪tsy]

Tito Shivan původně napsal:

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

Being a level zero is fine, but it's pretty lame if you do it when you are an active community member.

The old forums worked for years without being linked to Steam profiles

I actually liked that better than what we have now. I miss the old SPUF so much.

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

I don't agree. So many people full of BS in game discussions that can't back up what they say, because they keep their profile hidden.

If you need to check on someone's profile to back up a point you're already on the wrong track.

Old days are gone forever, I loved the old school Steam, the community was different then as well. Or at least there were not many trolls back then.

[MonkehMaster]

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

Tito Shivan původně napsal:

The old forums worked for years without being linked to Steam profiles

I actually liked that better than what we have now. I miss the old SPUF so much.


If you need to check on someone's profile to back up a point you're already on the wrong track.

Old days are gone forever, I loved the old school Steam, the community was different then as well. Or at least there were not many trolls back then.

trolls have been around since the internet became a thing, also the term trolling or what people think trolling is (talking about comment trolling, not the actual word trolling as that is a totally different thing) has been smeared and misused over the years, most people dont even know what trolling is, they would rather call anyone not parroting their bad opinions/views... a troll.

[B✪✪tsy]

teh christs mass původně napsal:

MonkehMaster původně napsal:

trolls have been around since the internet became a thing, also the term trolling or what people think trolling is (talking about comment trolling, not the actual word trolling as that is a totally different thing) has been smeared and misused over the years, most people dont even know what trolling is, they would rather call anyone not parroting their bad opinions/views... a troll.

vary true. nowadays ppl say ur a troll if ur opinion doesnt align with theyrs which is funny af. also sad but still funy

No there lliterally is a world of difference between 15 years ago and now. Back in the day trolls were more of an incident in discussions. Nowadays the majority of the discussions have at least one troll doing 'his' thing (trolls are always guys).

[MonkehMaster]

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

teh christs mass původně napsal:

vary true. nowadays ppl say ur a troll if ur opinion doesnt align with theyrs which is funny af. also sad but still funy

No there lliterally is a world of difference between 15 years ago and now. Back in the day trolls were more of an incident in discussions. Nowadays the majority of the discussions have at least one troll doing 'his' thing (trolls are always guys).

imagine claiming "trolls" are always a specific gender..... you are 100% wrong

im guessing you werent around (born) back in the days of the internet chats/ect... when the internet became mainstream, cause trolling (real trolling) was not only better (quality wise) but a very common thing back in those days, as compared to now a days, where real trolling isnt very common anymore and majority of people claim anything they want as trolling (mostly anyone they disagree with, or said person doesnt align with their views/opinions, which isnt trolling).

[The End]

B✪✪tsy původně napsal:

No there lliterally is a world of difference between 15 years ago and now. Back in the day trolls were more of an incident in discussions. Nowadays the majority of the discussions have at least one troll doing 'his' thing (trolls are always guys).

LOL. I take you've never heard about usenet and yes trolls were a thing even 20+ years ago.
Even back in the BBS days trolls were a thing.

Yes, trolls were a thing even on SPUF.

No, trolls are not always guys.

The word troll has been bend out of shape over time, now it's abused to try to battle those who hold another opinion.

[Nïċḵ]

MonkehMaster původně napsal:

Nick původně napsal:

It's not that if you're a private profile user you're automatically a bad Steam User... But if you're saying something controversial(to say the least... use your imagination and think about all kinds of crap one has to read here sometimes), it might indicate a troll is at the other end of a conversation much earlier than usual... A conversation, which of course, any non-troll would want to avoid.

It's a matter of many coincidences that turn into a pattern that is later is set as a prejudice/stereotype which some of us here will inevitably stick to as way of prevention.

If I see someone talking trash on a forum of a game they do not own, it's a yellow flag.

If I see someone talking trash on a forum with a level 0 account, it's a yellow flag.

If I see someone talking trash on a forum with a private profile, it's a yellow flag.

If 1 and 2 happen or 1 and 3 happen, it's a red flag.



That's not to say that a guy with a public profile cannot say the same crap a private profile one says, but I mean... if you're private profile, I have no way to know if you're just a regular Steam User making a complaint or a troll trying to trigger people, or attention vvhore or even just someone baiting for points.

mouse icon next to a users name shows they own the game.

level 0 is shown to people not on said persons friends list, the friends list is shown the actual steam level.

privacy has nothing to do with it.

all of which you mentioned has zero to do with discussions and as such, trolls, ect.. can be private or public, the only thing people use public profiles for when arguing is ammo to feed the argument after losing said argument, ie... you lose an argument and then proceed to skim their profile to find "dirt" on said person, by trying to discredit them.

There's a misunderstanding here.

I never implied that having a private profile prevented me from knowing whether they own the game or not(which as you pointed out, one can tell it from the mouse icon alone). What I said is that, if I see someone is talking rubbish about a game they don't own on that account AND they also have a private profile... to me, that is a clue to what the person in the other end of the "conversation" is like. Same with people who don't own the game AND have a lvl 0 account, even if PUBLIC profile. Because it means they most likely created a throwaway account to go around trolling. So, no... It's not even that much about the private profile itself... but I can't also say I don't see as a symptom.


I know why one might put on a private profile. Choice of privacy. It's that simple. There's nowhere in the Steam rules that says you can't. In fact, it says that you can. That's why we're allowed to do it. And you choose make use of it. It's fine. And I never did dismiss the act itself of doing it. Only stated that in my experience and the reason for my prejudice.

For example, and on this topic... It doesn't matter whether you have a private profile, because nothing in your account could possibly indicate anything about you that could help me understand you better. Therefore, I have no need for it.

That's why I also said in a second comment that the topic itself is important(and used game pricing as an example) as well as the argument in the given person's comments, because context matters just as much as the content itself.

[MonkehMaster]

Nick původně napsal:

MonkehMaster původně napsal:

mouse icon next to a users name shows they own the game.

level 0 is shown to people not on said persons friends list, the friends list is shown the actual steam level.

privacy has nothing to do with it.

all of which you mentioned has zero to do with discussions and as such, trolls, ect.. can be private or public, the only thing people use public profiles for when arguing is ammo to feed the argument after losing said argument, ie... you lose an argument and then proceed to skim their profile to find "dirt" on said person, by trying to discredit them.

There's a misunderstanding here.

I never implied that having a private profile prevented me from knowing whether they own the game or not(which as you pointed out, one can tell it from the mouse icon alone). What I said is that, if I see someone is talking rubbish about a game they don't own on that account AND they also have a private profile... to me, that is a clue to what the person in the other end of the "conversation" is like. Same with people who don't own the game AND have a lvl 0 account, even if PUBLIC profile. Because it means they most likely created a throwaway account to go around trolling. So, no... It's not even that much about the private profile itself... but I can't also say I don't see as a symptom.


I know why one might put on a private profile. Choice of privacy. It's that simple. There's nowhere in the Steam rules that says you can't. In fact, it says that you can. That's why we're allowed to do it. And you choose make use of it. It's fine. And I never did dismiss the act itself of doing it. Only stated that in my experience and the reason for my prejudice.

For example, and on this topic... It doesn't matter whether you have a private profile, because nothing in your account could possibly indicate anything about you that could help me understand you better. Therefore, I have no need for it.

That's why I also said in a second comment that the topic itself is important(and used game pricing as an example) as well as the argument in the given person's comments, because context matters just as much as the content itself.

thing is, people can talk about a game however they want, no matter owning the game or not, see now a days people can watch gameplay vids (in depth or not), or streams, guides, reviews and even forum comments and learn almost everything there is about a game, playing it firsthand doesnt change a thing in almost every case.

if i go to a game forum of a game i dont own and make complaints about almost anything, thats doesnt make my points any less valid, nor actual facts not true.