Why was the UI allowed to release like this?

[Zero]

The back button is a lottery on whether it will simply do nothing, back all the way to the beginning, or occasionally function properly. The memory usage of the new client is unacceptably high. The UI has clear visual bugs.

WE ARE NOT BETA TESTERS. THAT IS WHAT YOUR BETA BRANCH IS FOR. I do not care if you had enough testers or not. You do not push a public release of a client update that does not function properly until you work out THE BUGS THAT WERE REPORTED ON BETA BUT IGNORED.

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

Jack Schitt eredeti hozzászólása:

We do have the option of using the previous UI if we want to:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/6516193260169698564/

At least we have that option until Valve disables the ability to do that.
I don't care for the new UI because it doesn't work. If it worked I wouldn't have any complaints about it.

it improved my gaming with notepad and fixed issues i had with trading so it gud update

[Fearagen]

Jack Schitt eredeti hozzászólása:

We do have the option of using the previous UI if we want to:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/6516193260169698564/

At least we have that option until Valve disables the ability to do that.
I don't care for the new UI because it doesn't work. If it worked I wouldn't have any complaints about it.

Knowing valve, they'll completely nuke the ability once they find out that people are essentially rolling back to it, only a matter of time.

[[Thee] Meritorious One]

Jack Schitt eredeti hozzászólása:

The___Rookie eredeti hozzászólása:

It feels like the new UI as far as the store, uses space less efficiently. It almost feels like the UI was designed to see better. I personally think this is due to the folks using ultra hd resolutions and cannot see crap. So steam appears to be compensating for this.

Why is the URL just below the upper left menu? It looks overly crowded there.

The upper right now has its icons shoved too high and is offline with the top of the upper left menu's text, with a gaping area beneath it.

Everything is just crowded or empty. Before the layout was far better organized, spaced, and presented more evenly, scaled more evenly, and flowed better.

Those are all cosmetic things. I don't care about any of that. My issue with the new UI is that a lot of things don't work. Function is my concern.

What does not work? I haven't traversed through steam much since the new update.

[Jack Schitt]

The updated destroyed my experience with Steam. I closed it and stopped using it until a way to use the previous UI was posted. I'm hoping they don't disable -vgui until they have the new UI optimized a lot better than it is, working properly (very little to no bugs or errors), and stable.

[[Thee] Meritorious One]

HOLY CRAP! ALMOST 900MB OF MEMORY FOR STEAM? ARE YOU FUGGIN KIDDING ME? NNNNNNNNNNNO!

I also had a back button experience just now because I right clicked on the 'how to go back to the old ui' link, then when i hit back, i did crap, clicked it again, did crap, clicked two times in slow succession, went back too far, clicked forward, back to where I was.

I have a feeling they are implementing it to make more usage of 'browser' in the OS. Like Discord that consumes a stupid amount of memory, and anything else 'web' based.

But seriously, over 800MB of memory? I need to start charging rent.

My god, and the font choice is ultra garbage. WTF, who approved this garbage.

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

The___Rookie eredeti hozzászólása:

HOLY CRAP! ALMOST 900MB OF MEMORY FOR STEAM? ARE YOU FUGGIN KIDDING ME? NNNNNNNNNNNO!

I also had a back button experience just now because I right clicked on the 'how to go back to the old ui' link, then when i hit back, i did crap, clicked it again, did crap, clicked two times in slow succession, went back too far, clicked forward, back to where I was.

I have a feeling they are implementing it to make more usage of 'browser' in the OS. Like Discord that consumes a stupid amount of memory, and anything else 'web' based.

But seriously, over 800MB of memory? I need to start charging rent.

its to fix security loopholes that come up in native ui code aka traditional program windows

to negate this, valve switched the whole ui over to web based cef rendered, when everything is controlled server side at valve harder to hack into

[Fearagen]

The___Rookie eredeti hozzászólása:

HOLY CRAP! ALMOST 900MB OF MEMORY FOR STEAM? ARE YOU FUGGIN KIDDING ME? NNNNNNNNNNNO!

I also had a back button experience just now because I right clicked on the 'how to go back to the old ui' link, then when i hit back, i did crap, clicked it again, did crap, clicked two times in slow succession, went back too far, clicked forward, back to where I was.

I have a feeling they are implementing it to make more usage of 'browser' in the OS. Like Discord that consumes a stupid amount of memory, and anything else 'web' based.

But seriously, over 800MB of memory? I need to start charging rent.

You're not alone, mine was using 987 MB a little while ago.
https://imgur.com/a/iQJDdHs

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

The___Rookie eredeti hozzászólása:

HOLY CRAP! ALMOST 900MB OF MEMORY FOR STEAM? ARE YOU FUGGIN KIDDING ME? NNNNNNNNNNNO!

I also had a back button experience just now because I right clicked on the 'how to go back to the old ui' link, then when i hit back, i did crap, clicked it again, did crap, clicked two times in slow succession, went back too far, clicked forward, back to where I was.

I have a feeling they are implementing it to make more usage of 'browser' in the OS. Like Discord that consumes a stupid amount of memory, and anything else 'web' based.

But seriously, over 800MB of memory? I need to start charging rent.

My god, and the font choice is ultra garbage. WTF, who approved this garbage.

my firefox uses 1300mb

chrome uses more then that

bluestacks for security home camera monitoring used 9GBs of ram

[[Thee] Meritorious One]

Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD} eredeti hozzászólása:

The___Rookie eredeti hozzászólása:

HOLY CRAP! ALMOST 900MB OF MEMORY FOR STEAM? ARE YOU FUGGIN KIDDING ME? NNNNNNNNNNNO!

I also had a back button experience just now because I right clicked on the 'how to go back to the old ui' link, then when i hit back, i did crap, clicked it again, did crap, clicked two times in slow succession, went back too far, clicked forward, back to where I was.

I have a feeling they are implementing it to make more usage of 'browser' in the OS. Like Discord that consumes a stupid amount of memory, and anything else 'web' based.

But seriously, over 800MB of memory? I need to start charging rent.

its to fix security loopholes that come up in native ui code aka traditional program windows

to negate this, valve switched the whole ui over to web based cef rendered, when everything is controlled server side at valve harder to hack into

Are you saying that using modern .NET for Windows is less secure than using things like javascript? Where are you getting your information from? Whose steam clients were hacked because of security exploits?

I am a developer, a database developer, but I work with a really good web developer. He stated that many companies are moving to browser based applications because they are more portable and the garbage memory consumption plus the crap performance is a price to pay. It is the new hipster thing to do; develop your application on a browser and say 'see it works in a browser'. I wish discrap never became a thing.

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

The___Rookie eredeti hozzászólása:

Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD} eredeti hozzászólása:

its to fix security loopholes that come up in native ui code aka traditional program windows

to negate this, valve switched the whole ui over to web based cef rendered, when everything is controlled server side at valve harder to hack into

Are you saying that using modern .NET for Windows is less secure than using things like javascript? Where are you getting your information from? Whose steam clients were hacked because of security exploits?

I am a developer, a database developer, but I work with a really good web developer. He stated that many companies are moving to browser based applications because they are more portable and the memory plus the garbage performance is a price to pay. It is the new hipster thing to do; develop your application on a browser and say 'see it works in a browser'. I wish discrap never became a thing.

valve said this update is to make steam and your computer more secure so i believe em as they have experience

[Fearagen]

The___Rookie eredeti hozzászólása:

Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD} eredeti hozzászólása:

its to fix security loopholes that come up in native ui code aka traditional program windows

to negate this, valve switched the whole ui over to web based cef rendered, when everything is controlled server side at valve harder to hack into

Are you saying that using modern .NET for Windows is less secure than using things like javascript? Where are you getting your information from? Whose steam clients were hacked because of security exploits?

I am a developer, a database developer, but I work with a really good web developer. He stated that many companies are moving to browser based applications because they are more portable and the memory plus the garbage performance is a price to pay. It is the new hipster thing to do; develop your application on a browser and say 'see it works in a browser'. I wish discrap never became a thing.

It's a troll, there is definitely a memory leak somewhere in steam that valve needs to patch up, the fact it gets up to 900 MB in the first place is a huge indication.

[[Thee] Meritorious One]

Valve will never fix this. Come on, you're talking about the same company who still has not release half life 3 after 19 years.

Some a-hole executive probably went to some symposium and heard some idiot CIO talk about how web based applications are the way to go now. All this power and we move things to the browser because its cool in California to do so.

Absolute tards making big decisions in the tech industry. There is probably another reason they want to use a browser. All of the things available to browsers by the OS these days comes for free. They sell this crap to 3rd parties. I am not saying Steam does it, but i'll be curious if it is in the verbiage somewhere.

[[Thee] Meritorious One]

Whoa, I just experienced steam wig the fug out. I went out to the parent topics area for this parent content. I clicked on the discussion: Suspicious Activity. Then the application went through three or four pages, even going to the game page of the last game I played, then landed back on my home page. All with a single click.

This is an example of why you do not listen to hipsters in the industry. Modern day applications are becoming less and less reliable because absolute hipsters are developing them with zero knowledge of how a framework actually works, with the direction of someone who thinks steve jobs knew anything. So many frameworks and languages get created that are fly by night operations people implement into production crap. Next thing you know, that framework is completely deprecated with no more support.

[Fearagen]

The___Rookie eredeti hozzászólása:

Whoa, I just experienced steam wig the fug out. I went out to the parent topics area for this parent content. I clicked on the discussion: Suspicious Activity. Then the application went through three or four pages, even going to the game page of the last game I played, then landed back on my home page. All with a single click.

This is an example of why you do not listen to hipsters in the industry. Modern day applications are becoming less and less reliable because absolute hipsters are developing them with zero knowledge of how a framework actually works, with the direction of someone who thinks steve jobs knew anything.

That is awful, I am using my web browser right now to use the forums and stuff, completely avoiding the steam client apart from launching games. Been having tons of issues myself using the steam browser.

[KalGimpa]

Zero eredeti hozzászólása:

WE ARE NOT BETA TESTERS.

that ship sailed long ago, partner

companies realized they can just dump a product on us and we would do the last testing

don't get me wrong

i know that all software is going to have troubles

just the nature of the beast

but companies are saving tons by not having to pay employees to find the bugs and letting the end users find them

it has become the unfortunate normal to say

"give it a year, they will iron out most of it"

or the like