EinSchlachter Jun 16, 2023 @ 1:31pm
The new UI is horrible
The look of the new UI is horrible. The section fonts in library are way over bold and too big. The sub-menu is bulky and now has a thumbnail of the game. The thumbnail of the game is a waste of resources. The name of the game was plenty in the sub-menus to launch game.

I feel like a Boomer generation engineer came up with this to give it the feel of an old SNES font menu.

This project was put into the "lets put this in retail as soon as possible".

Another lets throw this out and let the gaming community work out the bugs.

What is bad is I am just complaining about Aesthetics. God forbid the posts that actually complain about the performance and functionality

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Alcoholic Jun 16, 2023 @ 1:36pm 
right click on a steam shortcut, click properties, Find where it says target, it should look like this:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe"

Add "-vgui" without the quotation marks. So it should look like this:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe" -vgui

This will get you the old UI back
The -vgui argument after the path also works on GNU/Linux.

/usr/bin/steam-runtime -vgui
or
/path/to/steam -vgui

on the Desktop shortcut will do the trick.
The new UI also ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up some community features. For example: only a particular portion of screenshots, videos or art will be shown. Kinda sad. Won't be able to check the old screens and memes in the tf community or sfm. Now I'll have to go to some redtit or twаtter for that
Last edited by Сибиреязвенный cko; Jun 16, 2023 @ 1:49pm
D.A. Azrael Jun 16, 2023 @ 1:55pm 
Doesn't help with the achievements page sadly, it's still being opened in a pseudo window, unless accessing the page from the profile.
Paras Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:05pm 
I agree...
Actually I hated pretty much all of them frkn overlay etc. changes of the last few years.
I miss how steam looked and worked like... well around 5 years ago I think. Kinda lost track when this all started with all that extreme changes. Im just sick of this bullsh*t

I really miss the general look of steam from back than (if it is now at the normal Steam app interface or the ingame overlay, chat etc.). Just everything changed.
I really don't get the idea of changes if there is no need and no reason to. We do not talk about improvements here... we talk about the exact opposite!
But I guess that is just caused by this retaded newage in which everybody feels the absolute need to change just everything not realizing it changes most of the stuff to worse.
You often not even got any time anymore to get used to it and propably this is annoying me the most. Not even have the time to calm down and settle.
'You don't like it now? Uhhhh wait for the next update you gonna lose ur sh*t and mind even more!'

People were used to it. It was working fine (wont be better now for sure). It was looking good... I mean... 'better'. So yeah, just why?
And why would people even support that? What is wrong with people nowadays? I mean... not like Steam would be a single case... not at all. Everybody doing it.
Me for my part, Im havin enough of all this changes and want to keep things familiar especially if it is well proven. But nope... no choice, no chance!

In the end all those idiots do what the do and nobody can stop them overthrowing everything in even shorter intervals. When they end up releasing all the garbage they collected in their can of a brain they just do and you are forced to stick to it. Kinda sucks...
Everybody knows - this is how it goes.

So I just gave up on it.

And I mean... in the end you just drive urself nuts trying to bring and set stuff back as you were used to and liked it.
Imagine me going crazy years ago when Win 8 came out and me naiv enough geting it and trying making the UI look like Win 7...
Anyways
Hate it, sigh and moan but accept it. There is no other way.
Especially since you not only need to fight against those changes but also against those masses of 'Zombies' supporting just everything.
That's a lost war allready.
Last edited by Paras; Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:07pm
Natan Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:13pm 
Yeah, don't like new UI (as usual).
Maybe let's have an option in setting "never update steam UI"?
Cream Tea Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by Paras:
I agree...
Actually I hated pretty much all of them frkn overlay etc. changes of the last few years.
I miss how steam looked and worked like... well around 5 years ago I think. Kinda lost track when this all started with all that extreme changes. Im just sick of this bullsh*t

I really miss the general look of steam from back than (if it is now at the normal Steam app interface or the ingame overlay, chat etc.). Just everything changed.
I really don't get the idea of changes if there is no need and no reason to. We do not talk about improvements here... we talk about the exact opposite!
But I guess that is just caused by this retaded newage in which everybody feels the absolute need to change just everything not realizing it changes most of the stuff to worse.
You often not even got any time anymore to get used to it and propably this is annoying me the most. Not even have the time to calm down and settle.
'You don't like it now? Uhhhh wait for the next update you gonna lose ur sh*t and mind even more!'

People were used to it. It was working fine (wont be better now for sure). It was looking good... I mean... 'better'. So yeah, just why?
And why would people even support that? What is wrong with people nowadays? I mean... not like Steam would be a single case... not at all. Everybody doing it.
Me for my part, Im havin enough of all this changes and want to keep things familiar especially if it is well proven. But nope... no choice, no chance!

In the end all those idiots do what the do and nobody can stop them overthrowing everything in even shorter intervals. When they end up releasing all the garbage they collected in their can of a brain they just do and you are forced to stick to it. Kinda sucks...
Everybody knows - this is how it goes.

So I just gave up on it.

And I mean... in the end you just drive urself nuts trying to bring and set stuff back as you were used to and liked it.
Imagine me going crazy years ago when Win 8 came out and me naiv enough geting it and trying making the UI look like Win 7...
Anyways
Hate it, sigh and moan but accept it. There is no other way.
Especially since you not only need to fight against those changes but also against those masses of 'Zombies' supporting just everything.
That's a lost war allready.

I've had constant issues ever since they started fiddling with the UI a few years ago. Sometimes I have to restart steam because the in-game overlay stops working and my friends list keeps bugging out. I don't normally post here but this update has crossed the line for me. They should have kept the UI as it was 10 years ago. Remember when they began changing the way games were represented so they looked like "game covers" instead of banners. A lot of old games still haven't changed their covers and stand out as they now have a letterbox effect.
Zefar Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by EinSchlachter:
The look of the new UI is horrible. The section fonts in library are way over bold and too big. The sub-menu is bulky and now has a thumbnail of the game. The thumbnail of the game is a waste of resources. The name of the game was plenty in the sub-menus to launch game.

So text being a bit thicker for the main tabs(Store, Community, Library) and on some parts in the Home tab it's suddenly making it the worst UI?
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/09/steam-library-update-will-dynamically-sort-your-gaming-backlog-coming-sept-17/

You can see how it looks.
The icons for the game can be turned off if you really hate them.
Also I'm sure that 1 Byte picture of the game icon is gonna matter when it comes to waste of resources.


Originally posted by EinSchlachter:
I feel like a Boomer generation engineer came up with this to give it the feel of an old SNES font menu.

I've heard that it was made by a 5 year old. That it was up to the new interns. Or done by the janitor. Or was a school project. Now it's apparently the boomers that are the cause of it.
Where will it end?


Originally posted by EinSchlachter:
This project was put into the "lets put this in retail as soon as possible".

Another lets throw this out and let the gaming community work out the bugs.

What is bad is I am just complaining about Aesthetics. God forbid the posts that actually complain about the performance and functionality

Overall it's just some text fonts being changed on a few places. The overall UI is practically the same.

Performance wise it runs faster when using the browser.
D.A. Azrael Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Zefar:
Overall it's just some text fonts being changed on a few places. The overall UI is practically the same.

Performance wise it runs faster when using the browser.

Have you checked the achievement page in your library? Sure, not everyone cares about them anyway, but how is the new design better than the one before?
I can understand Steam fiddling around with the store page, they research what increases engagement and drives sales but why change the achievement page when it was already working perfectly fine and has nothing to do with revenue?

Edit:
Just noticed I can't even move the window, it's fixed like that and I can only scroll up or down and have maybe 1.3 achievements showing at a time.
https://imgur.com/a/kmEQWd0
Last edited by D.A. Azrael; Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:48pm
Zefar Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:48pm 
Originally posted by D.A. Azrael:
Originally posted by Zefar:
Overall it's just some text fonts being changed on a few places. The overall UI is practically the same.

Performance wise it runs faster when using the browser.

Have you checked the achievement page in your library? Sure, not everyone cares about them anyway, but how is the new design better than the one before?
I can understand Steam fiddling around with the store page, they research what increases engagement and drives sales but why change the achievement page when it was already working perfectly fine and has nothing to do with revenue?

I have looked in the achievement page. Not bothered by the change at all.

They want to update the look so that it all have the same style. It still does the same thing as before.
D.A. Azrael Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:51pm 
Originally posted by Zefar:
I have looked in the achievement page. Not bothered by the change at all.

They want to update the look so that it all have the same style. It still does the same thing as before.

Check my edit, the UI isn't even responsive. Only works in a maximized window.
If you don't care that's fine by me, the thing that annoys me the most is that people who don't like it can't change it back. Users have less and less choice in configuration because everything has to be dumbed down to smartphone level, who cares if only 1 in 100 people choose to revert the design? Is that a negative thing for people who want to keep the new one?
Orliminecraft Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by D.A. Azrael:
Doesn't help with the achievements page sadly, it's still being opened in a pseudo window, unless accessing the page from the profile.
Press "view all friends who play" and then "compare stats" under one of them
-LaMeR. Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:58pm 
ywah is terrible , also i can't open steam anymore while im in game
D.A. Azrael Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by Orliminecraft:
Originally posted by D.A. Azrael:
Doesn't help with the achievements page sadly, it's still being opened in a pseudo window, unless accessing the page from the profile.
Press "view all friends who play" and then "compare stats" under one of them
Thanks, it also works by going to your profile / games and opening the achievement page from there. Should be very easy for them to just give the option to choose one style imo, including the library.
Zefar Jun 16, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by D.A. Azrael:
Originally posted by Zefar:
I have looked in the achievement page. Not bothered by the change at all.

They want to update the look so that it all have the same style. It still does the same thing as before.

Check my edit, the UI isn't even responsive. Only works in a maximized window.
If you don't care that's fine by me, the thing that annoys me the most is that people who don't like it can't change it back. Users have less and less choice in configuration because everything has to be dumbed down to smartphone level, who cares if only 1 in 100 people choose to revert the design? Is that a negative thing for people who want to keep the new one?

It works just fine for me. The whole client feels faster and it's web browser is actually quick.

The design is also not that of a mobile phone app as any smartphone app will hide away extra buttons in drop down lists. Steam lists plenty of stuff at once.
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