competition from epic games is forcing valve to update its client and add new features

[Rain]

nice .

[AROCK!!!]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Tito Shivan:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ÁROCK!!!:

STEAM, for a while now, seems more like a social media platform that sells games rather than a game store with social aspects.

Spending too much time in the forums will form that bias. The social aspect of Steam is still not that much important.

It's more to do with all the profile bling, groups you can create / join, and things of that nature.

Also, I spend a very small amount of time in the forums, especially compared to those that seemingly live in them.

[AROCK!!!]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Lo Burattino:

The Epic Store doesn't have even have a quarter of Steam's features, it doesn't even allow people to have profile pictures to show in games.

The only thing Steam tried to do with this update is making the UI as slow and ugly as the epic store's

Epic has exactly what I need...a store, my library, my friends list, and a workshop....anything else is unneeded and unwanted fluff and bling,

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โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย WolfEisberg:

Are you saying GOGs market share is higher than Epic's?

When you remove F2P Fortnite crowd? Likely.

Keep in mind that you're comparing a service that gets its numbers massively padded out by users who may or may not regularly purchase other titles with one that doesn't even have a way of reliably tracking significant portion of its user base.

When I get something from GOG, I buy it, download the installer, and maybe check from time to time for an update. That's all they have on it. The main reason I prefer them (and itch.io) to other distros is ownership of installer packages.

Only way you can extrapolate the real market share is by compiling what sale number information somebody made public (and that's very rare). As I said, last time I saw something decent in terms of that showed GOG being second largest digital distributor.

There's plenty of reasons nobody wants to make those numbers public, and none of them are to the benefit of the customer.

[Turbo]

What? Epic Launcher has no features except being slow.

[Atrushan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Overseer:

What features does Epic have that Steam does not have?

Frequent free giveaways of great or expensive games, for example. While I have yet to play any of them, ever since I registered I collected no less than 219 giveaways in my library without having to spend a cent.
Some of the more popular ones (as well as games I look forward to play) are

A Plague Tale Innocence, Alien Isolation, Among the Sleep, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, The complete Bioshock Collection, Borderlands 3, Darksiders 1+2, Death Stranding, Dishonored (+ Death of the Outsider), Dungeons 3, Elite Dangerous, Fallout 1-3 / New Vegas / Tactics, Frostpunk, Galactic Civilisations 3, Grand Theft Auto 5, Halcyon 6, Jurassic World Evolution, Just Cause 4, Kerbal Space Programm, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Layers of Fear 2, My time at Portia, Pathfinder Kingmaker, Payday 2, Pillars of Eternity, Prey, Rage 2, Rebel Galaxy, Remnant - From the Ashes, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Rogue Legacy, Saints Row 3+4, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Civilization 6, Slime Rancher, Sunless Sea, The long Dark, The Talos Principle, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, The Wolf among us, Tomb Raider, Tyranny, Vampyr, Wolfenstein: The new order and XCOM 2.

I think that's more than just a couple of reasons to use Epic. Attempting to buy even a part of the games they gave away would require a small fortune.

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โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Atrushan:

Frequent free giveaways of great or expensive games, for example.

Myeah, that's just them trying to buy themselves a slice of the market, and the reason why they are considered running at a loss so far.

Might explain the stats they happily throw around on how popular the service is, without mentioning it's mostly F2P users, heh.

[Atrushan]

Since GOG was also mentioned, lately I prefer getting my games from there.
I like being able to play games without the need of a launcher, plattform or working internet connection - whenever I want. At least once I've downloaded all data for the game.

But their biggest advantage in my opinion is that their games have been optimized for modern systems. Especially older titles.

[ambosen]

So that's the narrative from the conspiracy theorists this time, then.

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โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ambosen:

So that's the narrative from the conspiracy theorists this time, then.

You know what people laughed off as "conspiracy theory" in early 2000s?

The ubiquitous monitoring of internet traffic by US TLAs. Funny how that ended, huh?

[lx]

haha when they add "theory" and thinking that changes facts... thats called hiding in plain sight.
you can also substitute conspiracy for plan, plot, scheme, design, agenda, strategy, project, venture, incorporation, organization, ... ... ... words are funny busyness

[isabellium]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crix:

I don't see anything wrong with Epic games or Steam. It's just another platform to buy games. They've improved a lot lately though.

If you don't value your human rights for personal privacy then yeah, it is just "Another platform to buy games"

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Dilynwrcrist:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

You do realize that Epic is known as a loss leader?

There is no competition. They pay developers to put their games on their store for free. Those free games may not cost you anything but they are definitely not free.

Also there are 125 million active Steam accounts. Epic doesn't have anywhere near that amount.

EDIT:

Loss leader:

a product sold at a loss to attract customers

Epic Store has 230M registered users, and 68M monthly active users, its serious competition for Steam, which is a good thing for everyone, competition is needed to avoid stagnation.

Steam also isn't giving out free stuff like they are. They don't have to. The only reason Epic might even have that many in numbers is because of the free stuff. Those active users are not pumping any money into that company either.

Epic has a lot of money but you can't just keep giving it out and giving it out and have nothing coming in. No companies money is infinite. They're giving all this money to developers and publishers to get one year exclusives too

[Lystent]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 🌧️ Rain 🌧:

nice .

Only features that come to mind are the chug and extra stingy DRM when it comes to stable internet.

[Maviba]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Turbo:

What? Epic Launcher has no features except being slow.

Apart from the still missing forum it's catching up to Steam.
Meanwhile it has got News, game reviews, whishlists ... Epic is evolving

[lastbreath]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 🌧️ Rain 🌧:

competition from epic games is forcing valve to update its client and add new features

competition from epic games is forcing valve to DOWNGRADE its client and REMOVE old features

*fixed