New Steam Client Using 490 MB's of Memory???

[JockoFlocko]

It's bad enough this thing has to always be running in the background even when I'm not downloading updates or purchasing games, but this release after all the Steam services are added up is now using 522 MB's of system memory in Windows 10.

[Myll]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Fearagen:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Thiesen:

only 490MB???

How about 1.4GB after 13 days... with this rate I can't reach my usual uptime of +30 days...

Memory leak gallore 100%

It seems it is sort of controlling itself while still building up memory usage slowly. Used to mine would get up to 900+ MB or 1GB after a whole day of my PC's runtime. (Without doing anything other than using steam to launch by games) I shut down my pc every night as I like to have a fresh windows session each day just to clear up any potential issues. Now after a whole day it is sitting at 680+ so something is improved but there is still a memory leak. One guy on here had his at 6 GB usage after leaving his PC running overnight, I guess having steam run in the background in the task tray while the system is idling.

I see that people are once again fighting over that you should "have" 32 GB memory at least but like, steam having a memory leak is a software problem and not hardware. Sure, you can ignore the issue by having tons of memory like hell, go with 128GB and never complain about steam again but that is basically brute forcing and not a real solution to the problem that valve has to fix. Something having a memory leak is not a defendable entity, it is a big issue.

Like I said, it is AI playing itself with Steam Saliens. They're back, but in stealth mode this time.

[MonkehMaster]

just got a notification for a june 30th comment in this thread and everything after said comment up to now was highlighted as if i never read them...

[Myll]

I have some bad news related to this thread. I did a test run on a 5-year old laptop just to see the new Steam Client and how it affected that older format laptop. Reason being - that laptop has a Hard Disk Drive (HDD) that contributes some of the Disk usage to supplement RAM/memory requirements on-demand because that's how many older laptops were designed that did not have a modern SSD and were short on installed RAM (especially short of RAM considering modern day computing and gaming requirements).

I was stunned, as I hadn't tested out the Steam Client on that laptop before. The HDD was at 95%-100% usage, constantly, because the Steam Client is so resource intensive on the RAM that all the other basic background items then offramp from RAM and into the HDD to continue to run. It's a mess.

So the reason I say this is - if I wanted to try and "game" from that 5-year old laptop, and the game itself is being accessed from the HDD, then it's doubly taxing because the game won't get the HDD access when it needs it, because the Steam Client is forcing resources on the HDD in competition with the game's requirements for those same limited resources.

Who at Valve thought this was a good idea to make a resource-intensive Client? The entire Valve/Steam business model revolves around selling games - to as many customers as possible. Now I'm not here to make some grandstanding argument for Win 7 or 8.1 continuance, it's not that at all. Heck, this old laptop was powerful enough to easily run Win 10, but it did that with HDD supplementing RAM. And many other older laptops did this same offset. Simply put - Valve/Steam will have customers with older computers, that are Win 10, yet are so resource strained that they won't buy and play games from Steam. It's like Steam is purposely trying to lose customers or something.

[gorba]

Oprindeligt skrevet af MonkehMaster:

just got a notification for a june 30th comment in this thread and everything after said comment up to now was highlighted as if i never read them...

That was worth 15MB of memory.

[NakiBest]

@Myll - I used Windows 10 just fine NOT with a 5-year laptop, but TWELVE (yes, 12!) year old one. Acer Aspire, 17" display - using a very old Intel CPU (2 cores) + slow AMD Mobility GPU.

You do need an SSD to use Windows 10 or 11 properly.
IF your laptop has a DVD/Blu-Ray drive, you can purchase a cheap HDD caddy, then put the SSD in place of the HDD, and the HDD into the HDD caddy. :)
Worked great for me!
( Then after quite a long use, the Acer Aspire laptop expired i.e. died. :)
But it lasted many, many years after warranty expired. I think it lasted triple that. :) )

[kingjames488]

it also keeps sending me notifications about posts in threads that have been dead for a month >.>

wtf is steam doing?!

[Einsty]

Oprindeligt skrevet af NakiBest:

@Myll - I used Windows 10 just fine NOT with a 5-year laptop, but TWELVE (yes, 12!) year old one. Acer Aspire, 17" display - using a very old Intel CPU (2 cores) + slow AMD Mobility GPU.

You do need an SSD to use Windows 10 or 11 properly.
IF your laptop has a DVD/Blu-Ray drive, you can purchase a cheap HDD caddy, then put the SSD in place of the HDD, and the HDD into the HDD caddy. :)
Worked great for me!
( Then after quite a long use, the Acer Aspire laptop expired i.e. died. :)
But it lasted many, many years after warranty expired. I think it lasted triple that. :) )

An SSD is a good upgrade for any computer but yet again, nobody should need to upgrade HW to keep up with SW changes that don't even bring new functionality.

It's a shame steam hardware survey doesn't track SSD adoption.

What it does list however is installed RAM and the people that say 32GB is standard have the top 20% of machines in this regard.

[MonkehMaster]

im back for that june 30th notification again, steam notifications are the gift that keeps giving.

[Lystent]

Oprindeligt skrevet af MonkehMaster:

im back for that june 30th notification again, steam notifications are the gift that keeps giving.

:lunar2020thinkingtiger:

I got one of those! For a post in a game's steam forum. the thread has been dead for going on a month.

[MonkehMaster]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Lystent:

Oprindeligt skrevet af MonkehMaster:

im back for that june 30th notification again, steam notifications are the gift that keeps giving.

I got one of those! For a post in a game's steam forum. the thread has been dead for going on a month.

Oprindeligt skrevet af WolfEisberg:

Oprindeligt skrevet af MonkehMaster:

im back for that june 30th notification again, steam notifications are the gift that keeps giving.

whoa, I just realized that profile I unsubscribed from but still get notifications from it, every time I click on the notification it takes me back to page 9 of the profile to June 30th. I unsubscribed from it more than 2 weeks ago, still get the notifications. So yeah, it's annoying.

ya, it is annoying and sometimes randomly after the month or so old notifications, it wont show any new ones for hours, then light up like "hey, soooo... i was sleeping, but here are your notification, might be a few there"..

[Myll]

I just did an updated test, on my best PC - a desktop with SSD and discrete graphics card etc.

So, when I CTRL-ALT-Delete and view all processes in the Task Manager, sorted by most RAM usage, there is the Steam Client up top of the entire list of all software functions, using over 460 MB, and I just started the PC. In contrast, I opened up my Browser to check how the resource obligation looks for using a Browser, and I found that the Steam Client uses more memory than my browser uses with 14x separate windows/pages open! Think about that - more than a dozen browser instances on a modern PC don't generate as much as a Steam Client is resourced for, and you'd think the Steam Client would be no more/less resource intensive than a single Browser instance/page, right?

Valve/Steam really needs to hold their Devs' feet to the fire and clean this mess up.

[NakiBest]

Which browser is this test with?
To be fair in this test, you should use a Chrome/Chromium based browser.
Examples: MS Edge, Chrome, Orera.

Examples of wrong browser: Firefox. :)

[ReBoot]

Oprindeligt skrevet af NakiBest:

Which browser is this test with?
To be fair in this test, you should use a Chrome/Chromium based browser.
Examples: MS Edge, Chrome, Orera.

Examples of wrong browser: Firefox. :)

In the 90s, Firefox got criticized, rather rightfully, for its resource usage. Oh boy, how the tables have turned...

[The Presence]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ReBoot:

Oprindeligt skrevet af NakiBest:

Which browser is this test with?
To be fair in this test, you should use a Chrome/Chromium based browser.
Examples: MS Edge, Chrome, Orera.

Examples of wrong browser: Firefox. :)

In the 90s, Firefox got criticized, rather rightfully, for its resource usage. Oh boy, how the tables have turned...

I simply use Brave.

[NakiBest]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ReBoot:

Oprindeligt skrevet af NakiBest:

Which browser is this test with?
To be fair in this test, you should use a Chrome/Chromium based browser.
Examples: MS Edge, Chrome, Orera.

Examples of wrong browser: Firefox. :)

In the 90s, Firefox got criticized, rather rightfully, for its resource usage. Oh boy, how the tables have turned...

:)

Please note Chrome is/was resource i.e. RAM-hungry from the very start.

As you likely know, Chrome uses 2-3 separate processes for main EXEs/functions, then uses 1 more process for each tab opened.
This quickly becomes a total overload of 10, 20, 30+ processes easily if you tend to open many tabs. :) ( I do not. Usually I open 10-13 tabs at most.)

And each process being 64-bit for most users (except the small number of Windows 32-bit OS users) means even more RAM usage/overhead. :)