XPho3nixRisingX 15 OCT 2023 a las 6:49
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So when is someone from Valve going to clarify what exactly will stop working for Windows 7 users next year?
If I get locked out of my games I'm going to be PISSED, and even if the other storefronts are bad I will still be taking my money elsewhere. Probably GOG, at least they offer browser downloads for older systems.
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SqueakyTweaky 15 OCT 2023 a las 12:52 
Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:
Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:

I think your numbers are a bit off. I hope, being two million is close half those gamers lol.

I think it's out of the 120 million active users, near 2% are on Win 7 and 8. That's the 2 million. And keep in mind, that's only those who took the survey.
Ya may wanna read it again. The person claimed there's more Windows 7 users, than CSGO players. Which is patently false.

Even around the world, few consumers are using Windows 7.
I said there are more csgo players than windows. Even posted the link
xBCxRangers 15 OCT 2023 a las 12:55 
Publicado originalmente por SqueakyTweaky:
Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:
Ya may wanna read it again. The person claimed there's more Windows 7 users, than CSGO players. Which is patently false.

Even around the world, few consumers are using Windows 7.
I said there are more csgo players than windows. Even posted the link

Ah gotcha. Knew something was def off there lol.
Komarimaru 15 OCT 2023 a las 13:13 
Publicado originalmente por SqueakyTweaky:
Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:
Ya may wanna read it again. The person claimed there's more Windows 7 users, than CSGO players. Which is patently false.

Even around the world, few consumers are using Windows 7.
I said there are more csgo players than windows. Even posted the link
I meant the person who made the claim originally, and you corrected them.
WolfEisberg 15 OCT 2023 a las 13:18 
Publicado originalmente por Welcome, Everyone is Invited:
2 million users is twice the number if not 3 times the number of csgo 2 players

2 million users is more then all top 11 to top 100 games combined, so think about it 2 million users is
more then you think.

It'll be less than 2 million because there will be among those that will go to Windows 10/11. my bet, significantly less than 2 million, I would be surprised if 5k people decide to not upgrade to windows 10/11 and stop using steam.
76561199559798421 15 OCT 2023 a las 13:24 
don't look at the top 10 stats, look at all the other stats, top 11 to top 100 does not equal 2 million people, one has to speculate that average game population of all games is really based on top 50 to top 100 games, as they are more believable and not being manipulated by marketing and influx of paid for advertisements to tell you the games are doing well.
Start_Running 15 OCT 2023 a las 13:26 
Publicado originalmente por Welcome, Everyone is Invited:
2 million users is twice the number if not 3 times the number of csgo 2 players

2 million users is more then all top 11 to top 100 games combined, so think about it 2 million users is
more then you think.
And still that's less than 1%. And the funniest mpart. You're talking about a group whose revenue contribution is less than their user share. I.e they don't even acoun for half a percent of Valves revenue share.

IT all boils down to money. You can tout numbers all you want but from Valve's perspective, thats 2 million users worth of dead weight.



Publicado originalmente por WolfEisberg:
Publicado originalmente por Welcome, Everyone is Invited:
2 million users is twice the number if not 3 times the number of csgo 2 players

2 million users is more then all top 11 to top 100 games combined, so think about it 2 million users is
more then you think.

It'll be less than 2 million because there will be among those that will go to Windows 10/11. my bet, significantly less than 2 million, I would be surprised if 5k people decide to not upgrade to windows 10/11 and stop using steam.
COnsidering that the percentage share drops a fair bit every month...rthat'd be a good guess.
WolfEisberg 15 OCT 2023 a las 13:27 
Publicado originalmente por Welcome, Everyone is Invited:
don't look at the top 10 stats, look at all the other stats, top 11 to top 100 does not equal 2 million people, one has to speculate that average game population of all games is really based on top 50 to top 100 games, as they are more believable and not being manipulated by marketing and influx of paid for advertisements to tell you the games are doing well.

what are you even talking about?
AmsterdamHeavy 15 OCT 2023 a las 13:41 
Publicado originalmente por WolfEisberg:
Publicado originalmente por Welcome, Everyone is Invited:
don't look at the top 10 stats, look at all the other stats, top 11 to top 100 does not equal 2 million people, one has to speculate that average game population of all games is really based on top 50 to top 100 games, as they are more believable and not being manipulated by marketing and influx of paid for advertisements to tell you the games are doing well.

what are you even talking about?

His ongoing grand conspiracy that no numbers related to Steam are valid. Theres arent as many users as Valve states, the live player in game counts are fabricated and so on. Hes even gone so far as to state something to effect of "Steam doesnt have as many users as they say because...look at the forums".
xBCxRangers 15 OCT 2023 a las 14:17 
What if there was a system, we can "pay" Mr Newell for an Offline service when Win 7 or the future becomes defunct?

I wouldn't mind paying Steam a moderate annual fee for service. After all, i am an Xboxist lol.

I'm sure an unpopular opinion, but one i would consider.

A fee can keep our games, bring about better moderation, get rid of needing game hubs and maybe going to chat support.

In my many years with Xbox, there has not been, one issue in the decades with them.

We deserve SERVICE, Mr Newell :steamfacepalm:
SqueakyTweaky 15 OCT 2023 a las 14:22 
Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
What if there was a system, we can "pay" Mr Newell for an Offline service when Win 7 or the future becomes defunct?

I wouldn't mind paying Steam a moderate annual fee for service. After all, i am an Xboxist lol.

I'm sure an unpopular opinion, but one i would consider.

A fee can keep our games, bring about better moderation, get rid of needing game hubs and maybe going to chat support.

In my many years with Xbox, there has not been, one issue in the decades with them.

We deserve SERVICE, Mr Newell :steamfacepalm:
Why not just pay a service free and make each comment cost a significant amount of money on the forum to avoid useless posts and threads.
xBCxRangers 15 OCT 2023 a las 14:27 
Publicado originalmente por SqueakyTweaky:
Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
What if there was a system, we can "pay" Mr Newell for an Offline service when Win 7 or the future becomes defunct?

I wouldn't mind paying Steam a moderate annual fee for service. After all, i am an Xboxist lol.

I'm sure an unpopular opinion, but one i would consider.

A fee can keep our games, bring about better moderation, get rid of needing game hubs and maybe going to chat support.

In my many years with Xbox, there has not been, one issue in the decades with them.

We deserve SERVICE, Mr Newell :steamfacepalm:
Why not just pay a service free and make each comment cost a significant amount of money on the forum to avoid useless posts and threads.

I just think Steam is the wild west of gaming. It's great if you know the ins outs of computers, and very rarely need support. It is a free service, and it's not that great tbh, which would be expected.

In addition, not minding having to upgrade existing machines and OS, every few years it seems.

A pay tier for those, who expect better service, to keep our games running, and moderation that are better quality, is something that i feel is not a useless matter, or post.
matt 15 OCT 2023 a las 14:29 
Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Can someone tell me if these games will run post Jan ?
Games that use Denuvo or a third-party launcher won't work in offline mode.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Brothers in Arms Road to Hill 30 and Mods.
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Brothers in Arms Earned in Blood and Mods.
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Mount and Blade Warband and Mods.
Probably. The Steam version can apparently be made DRM-free.[www.pcgamingwiki.com]

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
COD 1.
Assuming that's "Call of Duty", almost certainly not. It requires a third-party Activision account. That presumably forces you to be online and pass a DRM check.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
COD United Offensive.
Maybe. It uses DRM on Steam.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
COD 2 and Mods.
Maybe. It uses DRM on Steam.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Mods.
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Elite Warriors- Vietnam
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Men of Valor
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Sniper Elite 1
Yes. DRM-free on Steam after installation.[www.pcgamingwiki.com]

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Red Orchestra Ostfront
No, almost certainly not. That uses VAC.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Battlegrounds
Assuming that's "PUBG: Battlegrounds", no. By definition, you can't play an always-online game offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Brass Brigade
Maybe. It uses DRM on Steam.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Commando Strike Force
Maybe? DRM on Steam, DRM-free on Zoom.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It's apparently been delisted on Steam, so who knows.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Conflict Desert Storm
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.
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xBCxRangers 15 OCT 2023 a las 14:32 
Publicado originalmente por matt:
Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Can someone tell me if these games will run post Jan ?
Games that use Denuvo or a third-party launcher won't work in offline mode.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Brothers in Arms Road to Hill 30 and Mods.
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Brothers in Arms Earned in Blood and Mods.
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Mount and Blade Warband and Mods.
Probably. The Steam version can apparently be made DRM-free.[www.pcgamingwiki.com]

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
COD 1.
Assuming that's "Call of Duty", almost certainly not. It requires a third-party Activision account. That presumably forces you to be online and pass a DRM check.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
COD United Offensive.
Maybe. It uses DRM on Steam.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
COD 2 and Mods.
Maybe. It uses DRM on Steam.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Mods.
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Elite Warriors- Vietnam
Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.


Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.


Yes. DRM-free on Steam after installation.[www.pcgamingwiki.com]


No, almost certainly not. That uses VAC.


Assuming that's "PUBG: Battlegrounds", no. By definition, you can't play an always-online game offline.


Maybe. It uses DRM on Steam.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.


Maybe? DRM on Steam, DRM-free on Zoom.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It's apparently been delisted on Steam, so who knows.


Maybe. DRM on Steam, DRM-free on GOG.[www.pcgamingwiki.com] It doesn't seem to have third-party DRM, use a launcher, or be always online, so it will probably work offline.

Thanks a million bud. I did try some suggestions others made, in just trying to go soley thru the folder, but none of it worked. All of them needed Steam. But i likely did it wrong. I guess i'll just have see when it happens. But thanks again.
Tito Shivan 15 OCT 2023 a las 14:33 
Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
What if there was a system, we can "pay" Mr Newell for an Offline service when Win 7 or the future becomes defunct?
Very blunt spoiler: You're (all) not worth the money.

Capitalism is gonna capitalism and all that.
Start_Running 15 OCT 2023 a las 14:56 
Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
What if there was a system, we can "pay" Mr Newell for an Offline service when Win 7 or the future becomes defunct?
If the w7 crowd were willing to spend that much to begin with they wouldn't be in this predicament.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
I wouldn't mind paying Steam a moderate annual fee for service. After all, i am an Xboxist lol.
Yeah it wouldn't be a moderate fee m8. And you'd basically find yourself in the same sscenario when the nyumber of people paying that fee inevitably drops below a certain threshold.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
I'm sure an unpopular opinion, but one i would consider.
Then you should take your consideration a little fuirther . Doesn't take a genius to see that all that amountsb to is kicking the can down the road . at best.


Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
A fee can keep our games, bring about better moderation, get rid of needing game hubs and maybe going to chat support.
Yeah no m9. No. W& users aren't losing their games. The games are where they've always been, linked to the accounts. When you can login with a proper client the games will still be there. Moderation, while slow is okay. and why do you think a fee would even have anything to do with game hubs?


And considering that MS isn't doing so well with their xbox subscription model.. yeah....

Publicado originalmente por Tito Shivan:
Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:
What if there was a system, we can "pay" Mr Newell for an Offline service when Win 7 or the future becomes defunct?
Very blunt spoiler: You're (all) not worth the money.

Capitalism is gonna capitalism and all that.
The cold hard reality of life.
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