Microsoft would buy Valve 'if opportunity arises,' said Phil Spencer in leaked email

[xBCxRangers]

https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-would-buy-valve-if-opportunity-arises-said-phil-spencer-in-leaked-email/

"What would Microsoft buying Valve mean for PC gaming, if it happened? I shudder to think of it! As imperfect as it is to rely on competition between giants for security, Valve's independent power has always felt like a check on Microsoft control over PC gaming. Valve built SteamOS on Linux in part as a life raft for PC gaming, should Microsoft ever go too far in locking down Windows, Apple-style".

[AlexTheRedScout]

Originally posted by Dryspace:

Originally posted by brian9824:

What if steam bought microsoft? ... Of course its all theoretical, but its possible Steam could be in a position to own Microsoft one day...

Steam can't own anything. Steam is software.

steam owns everything they made the only things they never owned was sources pyshic's engine
and since source 2 is now here as far as i know they just gotten rid of it, long answer no short answer also no

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

I guess Rangers doesn't know that monopolies never turn out good and that's exactly what it would be if Microsoft did by Valve, since they already own Activision and Blizzard. But hey, have fun wishing that Steam turns into a true subscription service. Where you have to continually pay for those 20-year-old games. Am I right?

We're already owned by MS, you just don't know it. But as was said by me and others, its happening. Just a question of when.

Speculation doesn't equal something happening. Like I said, you moaned and moaned to high Heaven about how you thought Steam was a subscription service and now you actually want it to happen? I don't think you can keep your train of thought on one agenda. You say one thing and then say another.

EDIT
Also some information that you act like you don't know. Gabe Newell is a former Microsoft employee. You've been told this numerous times in threads like these and you are aware of it.

He worked there for 13 years and produced the first three Windows operating systems.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by Alex:

Originally posted by Dryspace:

Steam can't own anything. Steam is software.

steam owns everything they made the only things they never owned was sources pyshic's engine
and since source 2 is now here as far as i know they just gotten rid of it, long answer no short answer also no

Again, Steam is the software, it can't own anything. Valve is the company.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Good thing that opportunity won't arise then since this was casually said in 2018. Unless you want a monopoly in gaming and to only be allowed games through a streaming service.

Which is Microsoft's end goal.

As your friend mentioned, we already have a monopoly in PC gaming:

Originally posted by brian9824:

Originally posted by Welcome, Everyone is Invited:

i have played valheim when it was first released, while it was fun to play with friends the game itself was not amazing, the orginal graphic content as poor, using valheim as a example of profit is the wrong choice.

While valheim was decent it was not a top tier AAA game, marketing manipulation is the only reason Valheim had any success it was and still is nothing amazing. the base game was poor and stand alone solo play was extremely boring, as it was tedious.

You said "Being a monopoly like steam" which would mean you do consider steam a Monopoly, I am not sure it really is, but i would be more careful with how you word it, you are basically telling us you feel that Steam is a monopoly.

over all i just looked at game studios and epic was in the top 10 game studios steam was not on the list of gaming studios so i am not sure what that makes steam.

I feel that microsoft seeks to Acquire all of it so they can control what is going on through sub-controlled companies.

Game studios are not stores. In terms of stores steam accounts for 70-80% of PC gaming. That makes them a monopoly.

The issue on your end stems from multiple failures of how things work such as the difference between a store and a game studio. As well as a failure to understand monopolies are not inherently evil and are even often allowed.

Also, yes, you're correct. Monopolies are always good for someone, so they're not inherently evil.

[Tolkien Book Fan]

Am I the only one that noticed Rangers' post stating that he expects to be given control of the forums when Microsoft buys Valve? And before that he was claiming that the Steam moderators had switched to his allegiance and he seemed to be expecting them to kick out Gabe Newell and put Rangers in his place. Everything Rangers writes on these forums is to promote his agenda of being seen as the controller of the forums.

[xAlphaStarOmegax]

I have already taken my fair share of hiatuses from Steam; if Microsoft bought them out, then I would probably completely quit. The censorship is already getting worse day by day, so I don't even want to imagine how much worse it could be under Microsoft's thumb.

[Dryspace]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Also, yes, you're correct. Monopolies are always good for someone, so they're not inherently evil.

That makes no sense whatever. Are you saying that rape is not inherently evil, because it's always good for someone?

(Aaaand here it comes: Where Pierce Dalton pretends he was speaking "ironically".)

[MAXE]

Originally posted by xAlphaStarOmegax:

I have already taken my fair share of hiatuses from Steam; if Microsoft bought them out, then I would probably completely quit. The censorship is already getting worse day by day, so I don't even want to imagine how much worse it could be under Microsoft's thumb.

I support Microsoft 100% ... I think it is a good thing and i even think that the company Valve would stand a better chance if they did cooperate with Microsoft on the leading market of gaming industry together, the issue at the moment is that some game developers earn money on the black market by allow cheaters to roam and destroy the gameplay for so many people online !

If we could gather the whole gaming industry under 1 roof wich can cooperate across continents, that would be for the best for all the gamers in the world !

If a cheater is caught, then microsoft will be able to exclude and keep the bad element away from the games online ... its a good thing, maybe not for the cheaters and thous that earn money on cheats .. but for the rest of us that dont use cheats in our games, then that is perfect !

world of warcraft ? well i love that game, but i would love it even better if it was upgraded and was given the game engine it needs to lift the graphic details and make that game even more enjoyable ..

Try imagine World of warcraft build in Unreal engine 5.3 ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf3INVeteOo

[Satoru]

Originally posted by Tolkien Book Fan:

Am I the only one that noticed Rangers' post stating that he expects to be given control of the forums when Microsoft buys Valve? And before that he was claiming that the Steam moderators had switched to his allegiance and he seemed to be expecting them to kick out Gabe Newell and put Rangers in his place. Everything Rangers writes on these forums is to promote his agenda of being seen as the controller of the forums.

Don’t expect the OP to talk to anyone in good faith. They were already banned from multiple game hubs and discords for basically harassing the developers of a game. But they paint themselves as a “victim” of moderation. They’re basically just scared that rules somehow now apply to their actions and want a “free speech” place where they can freely break the rules and have no consequences

[Dryspace]

Originally posted by Satoru:

They were already banned... But they paint themselves as a “victim”... They’re basically just scared... their actions... where they can freely break the rules...

Wait --- Are you saying that the OP is actually a group of people working together, and not just one guy?

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Dryspace:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Also, yes, you're correct. Monopolies are always good for someone, so they're not inherently evil.

That makes no sense whatever. Are you saying that rape is not inherently evil, because it's always good for someone?

(Aaaand here it comes: Where Pierce Dalton pretends he was speaking "ironically".)

No, I wasn't speaking ironically. Monopolies always benefit someone, if you prefer it that way.

[Dryspace]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

No, I wasn't speaking ironically. Monopolies always benefit someone, if you prefer it that way.

Oh? So if you weren't speaking ironically, you actually believe that anything that benefits someone is not evil, including rape and other things?

[Satoru]

Originally posted by Dryspace:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

No, I wasn't speaking ironically. Monopolies always benefit someone, if you prefer it that way.

Oh? So if you weren't speaking ironically, you actually believe that anything that benefits someone is not evil, including rape and other things?

Note they’re being pedantic which is their MO. It’s best not to engage them when they absolutely have never acted in good faith ever in any topic

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Dryspace:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

No, I wasn't speaking ironically. Monopolies always benefit someone, if you prefer it that way.

Oh? So if you weren't speaking ironically, you actually believe that anything that benefits someone is not evil, including rape and other things?

I believe that rape doesn't benefit anyone. To benefit = to help

Why are you talking about rape, though? What does rape have to do with Microsoft, Valve and Phil Spencer?

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Satoru:

Originally posted by Dryspace:

Oh? So if you weren't speaking ironically, you actually believe that anything that benefits someone is not evil, including rape and other things?

Note they’re being pedantic which is their MO. It’s best not to engage them when they absolutely have never acted in good faith ever in any topic

So you have read all my posts in each and every topic? I'm flattered