DocShady 2015 年 5 月 4 日 上午 10:46
Why doesn't Gabe address us directly?
Something that stuck out to me with the paid mod fiasco...

Why did Gaben go to Reddit and hold an AMA? Why could he have come here to the forums and address us directly?
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supertrooper225 2015 年 5 月 7 日 上午 10:32 
引用自 Ubernerd Lucas
The way this thread manages to be both inanely off-topic and fairly toxic should give enough evidence why Gaben wouldn't want to post here...

You pretty much hit the nail on the head.
最后由 supertrooper225 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 7 日 上午 10:32
Healncrush 2015 年 5 月 7 日 下午 12:15 
Gaben i want a knife... A karambit fade would be great
Velix 2015 年 5 月 8 日 上午 7:06 
why should he address us directly?
僕の名前 (仮) 2015 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:49 
Reddit has better format with branches instead of linear format of forum.
DocShady 2015 年 5 月 8 日 下午 4:00 
引用自 Scarface ♕
why should he address us directly?

Is this a serious question?
76561193855727635 2015 年 5 月 13 日 下午 3:45 
引用自 Odra
Most threads on these forums tend to spiral down into a circular-logic cesspit that is kept on heart support by contrary individuals and people who refuse to read through the thread (or even the OP) and simply rehash the same argument over and over again.

The same could be said about every other community out there, but Gabe has the decency to keep that mess out of his own home/forum.

As for an actual discussion with the man, I shudder to think how that would go given the entitlement certain parts of the community displays. I still remember when Hidden Path stated something along the lines of "CS GO will not be released until the community approves"...

BAM!

Suddenly everyone and their neighbor started to weigh in making their argument that since they were part of the community and that the game wasn't up to their standards (and most posts opened up with a salvo of their "I've played CS since_____" credentials)

For most user's here compromise = My way is better and I will flame you until you accept it.

So again, I am grateful he keeps that stuff out of here.

Cool story bro.
Smokey 2015 年 5 月 13 日 下午 4:03 
Why can we not order a Mc"Gabe :rcry:
jpcerutti 2015 年 5 月 13 日 下午 4:51 
Well, after first running through a bunch of smartass answers I came to the conclusion: why not?

Where I work the president of the company puts out messages about what they think important in an email every so often. I get letters and messages from people in charge of the things I use and subscribe to/pay for all the time talking about issues that they think important regularly.

Most are kinda stuffy and businesslike, but not all, and some are fairly informative. Steam has announcement sections, threads can be pinned and locked, it wouldn't have to be anything more than a general state of gaming, the interwebs, and new things Valve/Steam was working toward.

Would be nice.
最后由 jpcerutti 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 13 日 下午 4:51
Dj Bruno 2015 年 5 月 14 日 上午 9:06 
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🍋 Lemonfed 🍋 2015 年 5 月 14 日 下午 7:16 
it's seem that many games developers also use redit when it's not their own social website ... it's not just gabe newell that does it.
Insanity Claus 2015 年 5 月 16 日 下午 10:54 
引用自 none
Do you really think Gabe cares about you or any of us. He only did the reddit ama because he was losing millions of dollars.

this , and then he gave game devs the option to ban people for any reason ....
The "losing millions" comment Gabe made was about allocated resources. It's referring to hours spent making the framework, ironing out legal contracts, meetings, and then the resulting meetings and staff spent dealing with the community response. It's not like there were so many emails that it magically costs Valve millions of dollars. That million is over a period of time with many employees using their time to make the feature a reality, and a small amount from dealing with the community backlash that it created.
Insanity Claus 2015 年 5 月 17 日 上午 8:59 
引用自 FiachSidhe
Whether something is easy or not is subjective, but do you think running a billion dollar business is easy?


Beats me, I have no idea how autonomous his company is. He could just sit back and let managers handle most of it. I don't know, and neither do you. You just say it is. The guy gets paid more money then you'll ever see in a lifetime. If you're telling me, he can't address the people who pay his company for services, you'll need to do better than "cuz running a company is hard".

http://www.steverrobbins.com/articles/ceojob/
Well, I think you're providing a sterling example as to why most CEOs don't talk to their userbase.

Most people don't understand technology. They don't understand business. Gabe could talk for hours, in depth, about things that most people do not understand even the basic premise of. The signal to noise ratio is terrible on his AMAs, with most people forcing overused memes and spouting inane fantasies about what they want X game to be like. Asides from that, there are a lot of people that are simply extremely ignorant and atrociously obnoxious.

So, yeah, why doesn't Gabe come on to the forums and talk to every single Steam user? I'm sure he won't get tired of being asked "where is HL3?" a few million times, amidst the tons of "gabe is fat durr durr" jokes and various TF2 hat memes.

引用自 jpcerutti
Well, after first running through a bunch of smartass answers I came to the conclusion: why not?

Where I work the president of the company puts out messages about what they think important in an email every so often. I get letters and messages from people in charge of the things I use and subscribe to/pay for all the time talking about issues that they think important regularly.

Most are kinda stuffy and businesslike, but not all, and some are fairly informative. Steam has announcement sections, threads can be pinned and locked, it wouldn't have to be anything more than a general state of gaming, the interwebs, and new things Valve/Steam was working toward.

Would be nice.

In a way, that's what Gaeb's AMAs are. I fully agree that Valve could do better at communicating, but I feel that if Valve were to more regularly communicate, they would likely need a full time PR team to handle it. Those letters form the CEO aren't just whipped up by the CEO and handed out. They go through PR channels and are crafted from plans derived during meetings.

As it is, Valve communicates only when they feel they need to. This can be frustrating for the end-users, but think about how frustrating it is to try and explain to a bunch of angry, cynical teenagers how basic principles of free market economies work. The largest demographic for video games is 17 - 21 year old males. And, let's be honest, a lot of people, even those in college, are still immature idiots. Your fanbase can sometimes become your worst enemy. The most impassioned players are both a boon and a curse. That's why most video game companies communicate with their userbase via these kinds of canned "roadmap" one-way communications. They can tell you what they're planning and they don't have to deal with actually having to engage in a back-and-forth with the userbase, which can easily nosedive in terrible mess. There's a reason why Overkill Software, makers of the Payday games, eventually hired a PR person instead of Bo and Ulf Andersson, the founders of the studio, continuing address the community.

There are also very good business reasons not to communicate too much. Just as fans are interested, so are competitors. If you think EA wouldn't love to know what Valve is working on for Steam, so that they could put it into Origin, you're nuts. If Valve lets leak that they're working on feature X, you better believe that competitors will take notice and begin working on something similar or trying to force out their own similar tech faster.
Welson 2015 年 5 月 17 日 上午 9:20 
ыа
α E-MAN-cipation Ω 2015 年 5 月 17 日 下午 1:31 
Because reddit is supposedly the it place to be on the internet, I've yet to figure out why.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, it's GREAT that it's on a third party site and not where volvo has control over the things said.

and now I better add this...

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最后由 α E-MAN-cipation Ω 编辑于; 2015 年 5 月 17 日 下午 1:35
aylieum 2015 年 5 月 19 日 下午 12:42 
He's busy man, managing a company as large is hard as ♥♥♥♥ when you limit your staff.
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