Why games in Russian region costs much lower, then for Ukraine?

[WAGH]

Why games in Russian region costs much lower, then for Ukraine? Since there no ukrainian translate in games, almost all ukranians use russian language, but why games for us costs much more? People in our country arent so rich as in Russia, so due to much higher price we cant afford a lot games and need to use pirate versions, evryone lose in this situation! Steam coz he dont get money, users coz they play bad versions.

I wish Steam gonna make lower price for region/

[Seretti]

Publishers set the prices, not Valve.

[WAGH]

But Steam can talk to them. It will be better for all.

Originally posted by Seretti:

Publishers set the prices, not Valve.

[supertrooper225]

Steam is a retailer that sells properties belonging to a publisher. You might as well go to your local supermarket and ask that prices be lowered because you feel they should. The supermarket will, at best, note your suggestion. But they will go by their own data....and act of their own accord, as it is their decision in the end.

Publishers will do the same thing. They will note Steam's suggestions....but price their products as they please.

[WAGH]

Originally posted by supertrooper225:

Steam is a retailer that sells properties belonging to a publisher. You might as well go to your local supermarket and ask that prices be lowered because you feel they should. The supermarket will, at best, note your suggestion.

Ofc, thats why i created this topic.

Originally posted by supertrooper225:

But they will go by their own data....and act of their own accord, as it is their decision in the end.

Publishers will do the same thing. They will note Steam's suggestions....but price their products as they please.

I understand this. But supermarkets are quite bad anology. The product (games) are created not inside this both local markets (RU and UA), but the price is different. Obviously, of local market features, such us avarage salary. Avarage salary in UA is 2 times lower than in RU. But the price is 2 times higher. Small addition - both countrys players substantially uses russian in games and russian servers if those exist.

According to this - its much obvious that bosses of Steam didnt maked any researches about UA game market (due to it small size), becouse of what players use pirate games, and publishers loose their money.

[Nate]

Steam could possibly talk to the publishers, but the Publishers probably wouldn't change their minds. There are a few free to play games though.

[supertrooper225]

Originally posted by Tontellau:

Originally posted by supertrooper225:

Steam is a retailer that sells properties belonging to a publisher. You might as well go to your local supermarket and ask that prices be lowered because you feel they should. The supermarket will, at best, note your suggestion.

Ofc, thats why i created this topic.

Originally posted by supertrooper225:

But they will go by their own data....and act of their own accord, as it is their decision in the end.

Publishers will do the same thing. They will note Steam's suggestions....but price their products as they please.

I understand this. But supermarkets are quite bad anology. The product (games) are created not inside this both local markets (RU and UA), but the price is different. Obviously, of local market features, such us avarage salary. Avarage salary in UA is 2 times lower than in RU. But the price is 2 times higher. Small addition - both countrys players substantially uses russian in games and russian servers if those exist.

According to this - its much obvious that bosses of Steam didnt maked any researches about UA game market (due to it small size), becouse of what players use pirate games, and publishers loose their money.

It isn't Steam's responsibility to price games. That is the responsibility of the publisher or indie dev. Maybe the comparison isn't very good. But the point is that Steam can only make a suggestion....which means nothing. Publishers make the final decision.

[Notorious]

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[Kosinator]

Supporting Russia in the war they have an agreement not to attack the steam servers LOL

[cement]

Сперва на русском, а потом и на английском. First in Russian and then in English.
Этот вопрос уже поднимался несколько раз в русскоязычной части дискуссий. С ценами не всё так просто. Кроме издателей есть ещё и локализаторы и цены ставят ещё и локализаторы. Далеко ходить не надо ГТА5 цена пошла вверх с 999 рублей, потом 1399, вроде ещё была 1899 или 1799, потом 2499, а потом 1999 рублей и осталась на ней.
Тут уже 1С стал ставить свои условия. Как и Call of Duty который продавали в магазинах имел русский языковой пакет, хоть и была активация через Steam, но вот купленные через Steam хоть и скачивали этот пакет, но его поставить было нельзя. Хочешь русский язык, то покупай дисковое издание или ключ у локализатора.
Тут как раз то, что оговорят в договоре, то так и будет.

This question has been raised several times in the Russian part of the discussions. With the prices are not so simple. In addition there are more publishers and localizers and prices put more and localizers. Not far to seek GTA5 price went up to 999 rubles, then 1399 was more like 1899 or 1799, then 2499, then 1999 rubles and remained on it. There is already 1C began to put their conditions. Like Call of Duty which is sold in the shops had Russian language pack, though, and was activated via Steam, but purchased through Steam downloads, though this package, but it was impossible to deliver. Russian language you want, then buy disk edition, or key in the localizer.
There is just something that is stipulated in the contract, then so be it.

[WAGH]

And another fact - i can buy russian versions of games in resselers store with lower ru-zone price and activate it in steam. Whats the point? Why it cant be maked directly throught steam?

[76561198132737823]

I think they are fighting this now , by limting steam gifts to regions , as for keys there might be changes in the future

[TirithRR]

Originally posted by Tontellau:

And another fact - i can buy russian versions of games in resselers store with lower ru-zone price and activate it in steam. Whats the point? Why it cant be maked directly throught steam?

That's a loophole that Steam is slowly eliminating, as they disable gifting across regions and publishers add more games with region restrictions.

[Joe Cigar]

Think of STEAM like a pipe, when they turn the VALVE, your money starts to flow to VALVE and STEAM.

[Bullsquid]

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Russian and Ukraine gift regions are considered the same, so there is no point in buying the game on steam when you can ask a Russian friend to gift it to you, or just buy a retail key from resellers on sites like plati.ru. For the last couple of years I almost never buy directly from Steam, thanks to this discriminating price policy for Ukraine.
P.S. While publishers set their prices however they wand, Valve still can set suggested retail prices for regions. So it would be only fair to make Russian and Ukrainian suggested prices equal, since Ukraine has even lower income than Russia.