Mendax Jul 18 @ 1:27pm
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Valved caved, Censorship will increase
Next step. band Nudity and Gore.
Last Step: Remove games from your account.

Gabe caved.
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Xureman Jul 18 @ 1:31pm 
It's either that or Steam gets shut down because they are unable to process sales: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
Originally posted by Valve Statement:
We were recently notified that certain games on Steam may violate the rules and standards set forth by our payment processors and their related card networks and banks. As a result, we are retiring those games from being sold on the Steam Store, because loss of payment methods would prevent customers from being able to purchase other titles and game content on Steam.

We are directly notifying developers of these games, and issuing app credits should they have another game they’d like to distribute on Steam in the future.
Mendax Jul 18 @ 1:36pm 
BS. They can fight back or use a point system.
I hate to tell ya but censorship never slowed.

Valve is a privately owned company. Free speech only applies to governments, meaning they cannot put you in jail for what you say.
One guy had a good idea of having these games be purchasable only with Steam Wallet.

That's good, but what they should do, is sell the games in two parts. A main part vended with Steam, and a separate part supplied through a website and hosting service.

Still, I really don't care if we lose the gross stuff. But won't somebody please think of the twins boobies?
Mendax Jul 18 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
I hate to tell ya but censorship never slowed.

Valve is a privately owned company. Free speech only applies to governments, meaning they cannot put you in jail for what you say.
Free Speech applies to everything. Stop with the BS.
wesnef Jul 18 @ 1:52pm 
I really love how all these posters think that there's *anything* that segments of the retail industry can do to the trillion-dollar juggernauts who control nearly all the money in retail commerce. The finance industry is the 8-million-ton gorilla in the room. Ain't no single company that can shove that around.
Lunar Fang Jul 18 @ 1:52pm 
I understand people are okay with porn games that are questionable getting taken down, but the implications that if some corporation doesn't like something, you're forced to not like it either.

Meaning you as a person have less control over your own life and what you can enjoy is being decided by an outside influence. That's what people should be afraid of.

No one ever wanted less power and control, only more of it.
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Mendax Jul 18 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by Lunar Fang:
I understand people are okay with porn games that are questionable getting taken down, but the implications that if some corporation doesn't like something, you're forced to not like it either.

Meaning you as a person have less control over your own life and what you can enjoy is being decided by an outside influence. That's what people should be afraid of.

No one ever wanted less power and control, only more of it.
Stop with this libertarian BS. You won't have less control over your own life if stop a company from removing games because they were forced too.
nullable Jul 18 @ 2:02pm 
Originally posted by Mendax:
BS. They can fight back or use a point system.

Or they can just continue doing business without trying to overturn the apple cart for some problematic games that don't generate that much revenue in the grand scheme. Valve made the decision they wanted to make, it's not going to affect them in the least, they'll make more money this year than you ever will. Your problems aren't their problems. And your ideas are worthless because you don't really understand the issue well enough to solve it. You're just mad that some other service has terms and conditions. Valve does too, that doesn't seem to bother you so much. What makes Valve so special again?
Originally posted by Mendax:
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
I hate to tell ya but censorship never slowed.

Valve is a privately owned company. Free speech only applies to governments, meaning they cannot put you in jail for what you say.
Free Speech applies to everything. Stop with the BS.
No, no it does not.

Free speech, as protected by the First Amendment, is the right to express one's opinions and ideas without government censorship or restraint. This right is not absolute and has limitations, particularly when it comes to speech that incites violence, threatens others, or is considered defamatory. The concept is crucial for a functioning democracy, allowing for open debate, criticism of government, and the exchange of diverse viewpoints.

First Amendment:
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects individuals from government censorship. It does not apply to private companies or their policies regarding employee speech.

- Google

Feel free to look it up.
Originally posted by Lunar Fang:
Meaning you as a person have less control over your own life

Freedom is an illusion.
nullable Jul 18 @ 2:08pm 
Not to mention, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. And seems like everyone who invokes free speech doesn't really think about the second part at all, and are usually super gobsmacked when they learn speech has consequences.
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Originally posted by Mendax:
Free Speech applies to everything. Stop with the BS.
No, no it does not.

Free speech, as protected by the First Amendment, is the right to express one's opinions and ideas without government censorship or restraint. This right is not absolute and has limitations, particularly when it comes to speech that incites violence, threatens others, or is considered defamatory. The concept is crucial for a functioning democracy, allowing for open debate, criticism of government, and the exchange of diverse viewpoints.

First Amendment:
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects individuals from government censorship. It does not apply to private companies or their policies regarding employee speech.

- Google

Feel free to look it up.

That is such BS, free speech applies to everything period.
Zaber Jul 18 @ 2:37pm 
It really doesn't matter i'll be stealing from now on since buying isn't owning stealing isn't theft and no- one will stop me
Originally posted by Xureman:
It's either that or Steam gets shut down because they are unable to process sales: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
Originally posted by Valve Statement:
We were recently notified that certain games on Steam may violate the rules and standards set forth by our payment processors and their related card networks and banks. As a result, we are retiring those games from being sold on the Steam Store, because loss of payment methods would prevent customers from being able to purchase other titles and game content on Steam.

We are directly notifying developers of these games, and issuing app credits should they have another game they’d like to distribute on Steam in the future.
so they didnt give a refund, only credits, which isn't legal, and they didnt just remove the games, they changed the standards of their services entirely to give limitless untermed carte blanch to ISPs, Banks, and Payment processors to decide how we the customers use our money. If a payment processor refuses to do his job, then he isn't fit to be one and they need to either suspend services and seek a lawsuit, or at the bare minimum only remove the named material and give a proper REFUND to the users.

I'm not gonna let you undermine this, if Valve wants to become a direct subsidiary to Visa and Mastercard then they need to announce their formal retiring from independent operation and merge with those companies, if not, they need to act in the defense of their own products and services. You're telling me the near monopoly on -all- PC gaming cant say "go ahead mastercard, see what happens when you pull that trigger." Give me a break
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