Make "problematic" games purchasable via Steam wallet

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Finandir Jul 17 @ 9:26am

Make "problematic" games purchasable via Steam wallet

Don't limit purchases due to payment processors. Instead, mark problematic games as only purchasable via Steam wallet funds. Then, the payment processors aren't involved. They would be used for Steam credit purchases, not for purchasing the games they have issues with.

Allowing payment processors to dictate what is available will lead to more limits over time as to what games are allowed.

Last edited by Finandir; Jul 17 @ 9:52am

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jul 17 @ 9:28am

Originally posted by Finandir:
Make problematic games purchasable via Steam wallet

Don't limit purchases due to payment processors. Instead, mark problematic games as only purchasable via Steam wallet funds. Then, the payment processors aren't involved. They would be used for Steam credit purchases, not for purchasing the games they have issues with.

Allowing payment processors to dictate what is available will lead to more limits over time as to what games are allowed.

You want incest and non-consensual porn games? That's disgusting.

Dusty Rhodes Jul 17 @ 9:34am

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Finandir:
Make problematic games purchasable via Steam wallet

Don't limit purchases due to payment processors. Instead, mark problematic games as only purchasable via Steam wallet funds. Then, the payment processors aren't involved. They would be used for Steam credit purchases, not for purchasing the games they have issues with.

Allowing payment processors to dictate what is available will lead to more limits over time as to what games are allowed.

You want incest and non-consensual porn games? That's disgusting.

:nkCool:

You should be allowed

Finandir Jul 17 @ 9:35am

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

You want incest and non-consensual porn games? That's disgusting.

:nkCool:

I want minimal restrictions on what people are able to purchase. Your, or my opinion, on what is acceptable shouldn't limit what others are able to purchase, outside of actually illegal content. Right now, the restrictions are on "questionable" sexual content. It isn't to far from that to payment processors deciding that games with extreme violence, such as many shooters, should also be problematic. I can't wait for popular shooters to be modified to the equivalent of paintball games to avoid being considered too violent.

Yes, right now, that isn't the case. However, this forced delisting due to the fact that payment processors don't like something, is problematic in many ways.

veracsthane Jul 17 @ 9:38am

the problem is they arent probalmatic

and look. its feminsts. agian. its the politcal activists smacking the bee hive with a stick because people cant legally tell them no we dont care anymore.

so this is really easy. just let it die and no one has rights when soceity fails.

no one wanted it but your options only real options are
-let it die and let society fail and no one has rights so it doesnt matter
-make it legal to tell the garbage luxury ideology politcal activists no.

madhatter Jul 17 @ 9:43am

Originally posted by Finandir:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

You want incest and non-consensual porn games? That's disgusting.

:nkCool:

I want minimal restrictions on what people are able to purchase. Your, or my opinion, on what is acceptable shouldn't limit what others are able to purchase, outside of actually illegal content. Right now, the restrictions are on "questionable" sexual content. It isn't to far from that to payment processors deciding that games with extreme violence, such as many shooters, should also be problematic. I can't wait for popular shooters to be modified to the equivalent of paintball games to avoid being considered too violent.

Yes, right now, that isn't the case. However, this forced delisting due to the fact that payment processors don't like something, is problematic in many ways.

The vagueness of it all is what bothers me.
This is clearly agenda driven. If we tolerate this, where does the line end?

If Steam bends the knee, it will drive AWAY people to other places to get the games that they want (I will not give names of alternative adult gaming sites since I don't want to give people like THEM any ideas). And ultimately, PIRACY will be the only viable option left.

veracsthane Jul 17 @ 9:44am

when companies start having ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ opinions of bans and how they cant sell their drag age veil guard slop...

you banned it. you are going out of business because
you banned it.

banned as in content users. it as in a general everything when you should be banned.

its one of those weird paradoxes where anyone supporting bans are ussaly the biggest group of people who need bans. all things have a purpose and steam was never going to comply their way out of this. if they where smart a year ago when i said they should make an eu client they would have done so. i specfically mentioned the legal problems and politcal activists.

and here we are talking about feminists from Australia and the eu and how the game is ""illegal"" this is where it starts. its not where it ends.

madhatter Jul 17 @ 9:46am

Originally posted by veracsthane:
the problem is they arent probalmatic

and look. its feminsts. agian. its the politcal activists smacking the bee hive with a stick because people cant legally tell them no we dont care anymore.

so this is really easy. just let it die and no one has rights when soceity fails.

no one wanted it but your options only real options are
-let it die and let society fail and no one has rights so it doesnt matter
-make it legal to tell the garbage luxury ideology politcal activists no.

This.
This is the REAL motive behind all this.
Thought policing and punishing people for wrong think.

Finandir Jul 17 @ 9:56am

I changed the post title to put "problematic" in quotes. I don't think it the content being delisted/removed is actually a problem, but obviously, some others do.

As for people claiming this is due to feminists, stop that. Feminism is simply the belief that women should have equal rights to men and be able to exercise those rights. Yes, some people who are feminists have agendas that go way beyond that. However, this issue isn't due to feminists in general.

Last edited by Finandir; Jul 17 @ 10:00am

ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ Jul 17 @ 9:59am

Originally posted by Finandir:
As for people claiming this is due to feminists, stop that.

It is, due to the feminist group, Collective Shout.

https://www.collectiveshout.org/

Last edited by ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ; Jul 17 @ 10:00am

Finandir Jul 17 @ 10:01am

A specific feminist group. Taking that to mean all feminists is incorrect.

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ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ Jul 17 @ 10:02am

Originally posted by Finandir:
A specific feminist group. Taking that to mean all feminists is incorrect.

I didn't say all, did I? anyways.

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Finandir Jul 17 @ 10:04am

Glad you clarified. Unfortunately, many others stating that it is all the fault of feminists aren't quite so nuanced in their arguments.

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Carlos100 Jul 17 @ 10:37am

wait so people want incest and child abuse in games?
Im lost as to why you wouldnt want that banned?
It shouldnt be governed by payment providers............but surely you wouldnt want that in a game

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jul 17 @ 10:42am

Originally posted by Carlos100:
wait so people want incest and child abuse in games?
Im lost as to why you wouldnt want that banned?
It shouldnt be governed by payment providers............but surely you wouldnt want that in a game

Beware, people are reporting such comments to get moderated.

Specifically, what you said in the first sentence.

Be warned. Some people like such content.

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McFlurry Butts Jul 17 @ 10:51am

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Carlos100:
wait so people want incest and child abuse in games?
Im lost as to why you wouldnt want that banned?
It shouldnt be governed by payment providers............but surely you wouldnt want that in a game

Beware, people are reporting such comments to get moderated.

Specifically, what you said in the first sentence.

Be warned. Some people like such content.

:nkCool:

There was a game where they actually made the people aware of how messed up these situations are, Ready or Not, but it got censored. The whole scene was from the perspective of law enforcement actually stopping the criminals. So it works both ways.

The crazy part is, it wasn't even pornographic, just the implied concept. Meaning that it's being implied to be pressured to censor the knowledge that child abuse could happen too.

That's like telling DARE that they can't explain the risk of drugs because kids would learn what drugs are.

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