Thank you steam for the pricing.

[Deathraven13]

I've said that the standard pricing in 2025 was 70$, I mean MGS DELTA, death Stranding 2, AC Shadows cost 70$ and yet for some reason some people only got angry at the price of MGS DELTA (but let put that aside and say that they are just ignorant trolls).

BUT NOW, with the Switch 2, switch 2 games may cost 80$ to 90$ because "oh that's normal it's in 1080P 60 FPS". What ?

I mean I own a switch 1 but I'm not buying a Switch 2, I'm buying a new PC a this point and sales on Nintendo games are very rare unlike on steam so honestly I prefer to buy MGS DELTA for 70$ rather than have to pay for Switch online, then 80$/90$ for a switch 2 game, or pay 10$ for 60FPS 1080P upgrade.

Even If Nintendo released a new pokemon game we have PALWORLD, it's not even complete and got less bugs. I feel for console gamers but oh boy PC masterace wasn't just a meme.

[SLAYER187]

I left consoles awhile ago because everything is a paywall and yes games on consoles cost more or can cost more and look and perform no where near as well as games on a well built PC! But PC is not master race it is a machine not a living being and they use full on components as main not on board versions so they are totally different and not comparable. PC's just last longer run way better not locked behind paywalls and are upgradeable and you have more then one place to buy your games like STEAM of course and GOG, epic, humble bundle, battle.net, and many more! If you want a beastly PC handheld experience then might i suggest looking into AYA NEO'S there is nothing else on the market handheld that compares. Console wise i like classics only, about to order me a POLYMEGA deluxe bundle instead of a switch 2, it's specs are laughable at best and the price is even funnier.

[GrimAtrament]

Hate to say this not really but this is more likely because of tariffs

[Deathraven13]

Origineel geplaatst door SLAYER187:

I left consoles awhile ago because everything is a paywall and yes games on consoles cost more or can cost more and look and perform no where near as well as games on a well built PC! But PC is not master race it is a machine not a living being and they use full on components as main not on board versions so they are totally different and not comparable. PC's just last longer run way better not locked behind paywalls and are upgradeable and you have more then one place to buy your games like STEAM of course and GOG, epic, humble bundle, battle.net, and many more! If you want a beastly PC handheld experience then might i suggest looking into AYA NEO'S there is nothing else on the market handheld that compares. Console wise i like classics only, about to order me a POLYMEGA deluxe bundle instead of a switch 2, it's specs are laughable at best and the price is even funnier.

I'll give it a look.

Also mods, mods was one of the big thing that made me switch to PC years ago (and on PC I can make videos, music, do my adult stuff that I could do on phone but with a bigger screen, go on youtube).

Yeah sure a good PC for like 1000$/1400$ seems like a lot but I can play my old games without having to pay an upgrade and If I sell my old PC it's like If I bought a PS5 pro every 7 years........ thank you PC community.

[Chompman]

Origineel geplaatst door GrimAtrament:

Hate to say this not really but this is more likely because of tariffs

Tariffs are not a factor for digital games at this time directly.

[Amaterasu]

Origineel geplaatst door GrimAtrament:

Hate to say this not really but this is more likely because of tariffs

It has nothing to do with the Tariffs. The Switch 2 and Games are expensive worldwide. Nintendo got high off their own supply with the Switch and are about to eat crow with the Switch 2. It's cyclical for them, really.

NES did good, SNES did good, N64 did... alright, Gamecube did alright, Wii was a smash hit, Wii U was a failure, Switch was an even bigger smash hit, Switch 2 is going to flop. It's like with Sony, every time they get a massive win, they get in their own way.

[Chika Ogiue]

Regional pricing is regional pricing. My region has been paying the equivalent of 90 USD for games for last few years. PC games today are now priced the same as when we had the annoying "open price" RRP which let stores charge whatever they wanted.

In other words, it's about time the US started paying the real price of games.

[nullable]

I'll buy a Switch 2. I love my Switch, and the freak out about game pricing.... well people hate change and expecting game prices to never change is hopelessly naive.

Yeah it's not a reason to jump for joy. But I have a few reasons to be able to tolerate it personally.

1. I look at the price of SNES games, adjusted for inflation, especially the most expensive one I ever bought, Super Mario RPG which was with $69.99 or $79.99 (USD) retail in 1996, is more than $80-$90 today. So it doesn't feel new to me. Although granted lots of kids and twenty somethings this will be some kind of brand new world. The first time they really truly feel the affects of inflation over something they care about.
   
2. Games are often a lot more content rich than they were in the 90's and if I break down the total time played against the cost, the price per hour is a pittance either way. I mean focus on the price if you want, but there's lots of ways to assess value.

Yeah I expect the sticker shock to generate outrage from a lot of people. And they'll tell themselves righteous stories. But a lot of people will get over it too.

If it takes you a week to earn $80 then yeah you might not be thrilled. For a lot of people it takes a lot less time, and working for a couple hours to buy a game you're going to play for dozens or hundreds of hours isn't some catastrophe...

Or let me put it this way. Take your favorite triple AAA game. Would you skip it if you had to work one extra hour of wages to afford it? Even if your wages are crap it's like 3 or 4 hours of wages extra. Again, no reason to cheer, but if you like a game enough you won't have any problem doing it either.

[Amaterasu]

Origineel geplaatst door nullable:

I'll buy a Switch 2. I love my Switch, and the freak out about game pricing.... well people hate change and expecting game prices to never change is hopelessly naive.

Yeah it's not a reason to jump for joy. But I have a few reasons to be able to tolerate it personally.

1. I look at the price of SNES games, adjusted for inflation, especially the most expensive one I ever bought, Super Mario RPG which was with $69.99 or $79.99 (USD) retail in 1996, is more than $80-$90 today. So it doesn't feel new to me. Although granted lots of kids and twenty somethings this will be some kind of brand new world. The first time they really truly feel the affects of inflation over something they care about.
   
2. Games are often a lot more content rich than they were in the 90's and if I break down the total time played against the cost, the price per hour is a pittance either way. I mean focus on the price if you want, but there's lots of ways to assess value.

Yeah I expect the sticker shock to generate outrage from a lot of people. And they'll tell themselves righteous stories. But a lot of people will get over it too.

If it takes you a week to earn $80 then yeah you might not be thrilled. For a lot of people it takes a lot less time, and working for a couple hours to buy a game you're going to play for dozens or hundreds of hours isn't some catastrophe...

Or let me put it this way. Take your favorite triple AAA game. Would you skip it if you had to work one extra hour of wages to afford it? Even if your wages are crap it's like 3 or 4 hours of wages extra. Again, no reason to cheer, but if you like a game enough you won't have any problem doing it either.

Time to poke a planet sized hole in this argument. If you make 21.50 an hour(which is considered insanely high in my state), you will make 3,440 every month. You could use that to buy 43 Modern AAA games at 80 dollars. And then get kicked out of your home or apartment because you didn't pay mortgage/rent, get your car repossessed because you didn't pay your monthly payments, get your insurance revoked because you didn't pay premiums, have your water, internet, power, and possibly gas shut off because you didn't pay bills, and starve because you didn't pay for food. And gods help you if you have medical expenses.

This whole argument relies on a cost of living of zero, which simply does not exist.

[Zukabazuka]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2417610/METAL_GEAR_SOLID_D_SNAKE_EATER/

Its 80€ unless you refer to some other MGS game since none of them have the name delta in it. People are mad about the price of this title too.

[Deathraven13]

Origineel geplaatst door nullable:

I'll buy a Switch 2. I love my Switch, and the freak out about game pricing.... well people hate change and expecting game prices to never change is hopelessly naive.

Yeah it's not a reason to jump for joy. But I have a few reasons to be able to tolerate it personally.

1. I look at the price of SNES games, adjusted for inflation, especially the most expensive one I ever bought, Super Mario RPG which was with $69.99 or $79.99 (USD) retail in 1996, is more than $80-$90 today. So it doesn't feel new to me. Although granted lots of kids and twenty somethings this will be some kind of brand new world. The first time they really truly feel the affects of inflation over something they care about.
   
2. Games are often a lot more content rich than they were in the 90's and if I break down the total time played against the cost, the price per hour is a pittance either way. I mean focus on the price if you want, but there's lots of ways to assess value.

Yeah I expect the sticker shock to generate outrage from a lot of people. And they'll tell themselves righteous stories. But a lot of people will get over it too.

If it takes you a week to earn $80 then yeah you might not be thrilled. For a lot of people it takes a lot less time, and working for a couple hours to buy a game you're going to play for dozens or hundreds of hours isn't some catastrophe...

Or let me put it this way. Take your favorite triple AAA game. Would you skip it if you had to work one extra hour of wages to afford it? Even if your wages are crap it's like 3 or 4 hours of wages extra. Again, no reason to cheer, but if you like a game enough you won't have any problem doing it either.

I don't know about that, I even think 80$ for MGS DELTA is a bit expensive but at least it's a good remake + Snake vs Ape, here I have a Switch 1 so buying a Switch 2 to play in 60FPS, and have to pay 10$ for each old game to play at 60 FPS........ nah that's pretty bad, If Konami did this nobody would defend that.

In the end it's your money but boy am I glad that I've sticked with PC, on PC we have sales at least and we don't have to pay online just for PC games, we pay internet and can do a lot more than just go on steam, imagine If we needed to pay a subscription........


I was pretty mad a Nintendo for trying to make Palworld shutdown but now..... I don't understand how they can go on like this on console, PS5 pro was like 800-900$, just add 200-500 more $ and get a PC that can play games for like 6 years.

So thank you steam I hope games don't cost 90$ because of Switch 2. If it does then...... I'll wait for a sale.

[Deathraven13]

Origineel geplaatst door Zukabazuka:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2417610/METAL_GEAR_SOLID_D_SNAKE_EATER/

Its 80€ unless you refer to some other MGS game since none of them have the name delta in it. People are mad about the price of this title too.

80 euro that mean: 70 euro for MGS3 remake + 10 euros for Snake vs Ape and at least you know the story is good. Mario Kart cost 80 euro for the digital version and 90 euros for the cartdrige AND you have to own a Switch 2 AND you have to pay the Nintendo online If you want to play with people online......

[Amaterasu]

Origineel geplaatst door Deathraven13:

Origineel geplaatst door Zukabazuka:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2417610/METAL_GEAR_SOLID_D_SNAKE_EATER/

Its 80€ unless you refer to some other MGS game since none of them have the name delta in it. People are mad about the price of this title too.

80 euro that mean: 70 euro for MGS3 remake + 10 euros for Snake vs Ape and at least you know the story is good. Mario Kart cost 80 euro for the digital version and 90 euros for the cartdrige AND you have to own a Switch 2 AND you have to pay the Nintendo online If you want to play with people online......

Apparently, there are rumors that the Cartridges aren't even the physical games anymore, but just a game download code. So... yay.

[nullable]

Origineel geplaatst door Amaterasu:

Time to poke a planet sized hole in this argument. If you make 21.50 an hour(which is considered insanely high in my state), you will make 3,440 every month. You could use that to buy 43 Modern AAA games at 80 dollars. And then get kicked out of your home or apartment because you didn't pay mortgage/rent, get your car repossessed because you didn't pay your monthly payments, get your insurance revoked because you didn't pay premiums, have your water, internet, power, and possibly gas shut off because you didn't pay bills, and starve because you didn't pay for food. And gods help you if you have medical expenses.

This whole argument relies on a cost of living of zero, which simply does not exist.

Time to poke a planet sized hole in this argument. If you make 21.50 an hour(which is considered insanely high in my state), you will make 3,440 every month. You could use that to buy 57 Modern AAA games at 60 dollars. And then get kicked out of your home or apartment because you didn't pay mortgage/rent.... blah blah blah.

Or you could buy 86 Modern AAA games at $40 and and then get kicked out of your home.

You see, making a ridiculous argument isn't a god argument. I mean who is this person that's spending their entire income on AAA games because they're $80? What's stopping them from doing the same thing at any price? Your argument is based on unreasonable behavior and it proves what exactly? It's nonsense. Maybe you'd like a do over? I bet you do better on a second attempt.

Frankly you'd be better of trying to argue that if you could buy four triple A games a month today at $60, you could only buy three if they're $80. At least that would have some merit and be in the realm of realistic.

[Amaterasu]

Origineel geplaatst door nullable:

Origineel geplaatst door Amaterasu:

Time to poke a planet sized hole in this argument. If you make 21.50 an hour(which is considered insanely high in my state), you will make 3,440 every month. You could use that to buy 43 Modern AAA games at 80 dollars. And then get kicked out of your home or apartment because you didn't pay mortgage/rent, get your car repossessed because you didn't pay your monthly payments, get your insurance revoked because you didn't pay premiums, have your water, internet, power, and possibly gas shut off because you didn't pay bills, and starve because you didn't pay for food. And gods help you if you have medical expenses.

This whole argument relies on a cost of living of zero, which simply does not exist.

Time to poke a planet sized hole in this argument. If you make 21.50 an hour(which is considered insanely high in my state), you will make 3,440 every month. You could use that to buy 57 Modern AAA games at 60 dollars. And then get kicked out of your home or apartment because you didn't pay mortgage/rent.... blah blah blah.

Or you could buy 86 Modern AAA games at $40 and and then get kicked out of your home.

You see, making a ridiculous argument isn't a god argument. I mean who is this person that's spending their entire income on AAA games because they're $80? What's stopping them from doing the same thing at any price? Your argument is based on unreasonable behavior and it proves what exactly? It's nonsense. Maybe you'd like a do over? I bet you do better on a second attempt.

No, I don't need a do over. I've made my point, but since it was missed. I'll simplify it. Wages have stagnated. We have people who would kill to eliminate the minimum wage basically running the US at this point. Prices have only gone up with everything. This means cost of living is going up, which means people are already busting their asses just to survive.

[Piston Smashed™]

Everything goes up in price over time and you don't normally get more for your money. I remember when a Mars Bar would cost 7 1/2 pence and it was twice the size you get today.