PC in general is becoming more expensive than rent money.

[Blind Man]

So, I have a very outdated graphics card, the 1050 TI, and now they're discontinuing the GTX cards. I feel like gaming in general is just getting worse and even more expensive. The new Indiana Jones game, is just a really expensive movie with one button pressing. Heck, you can't even run it on GTX cards now. DLSS is stupid and so is Ray Tracing, well I don't understand it and I don't have a 8K TV so that's dumb and pointless. I personally feel like gaming industry is slowly dying. I've been so bored lately of video games, i don't even know what good games exist anymore. I just am disappointed on PC. Kinda of thinking of going back to console.

[Komarimaru]

Oddly, a $3000 PC today, is still one of the cheapest high end gaming PC's you can build in gaming history. My Step Fathers 386 was 11 grand, custom from blackship computers. I'll never forget seeing that.

Commodore 64? $900 bucks, and that was considered cheap...
10MB.... Megabyte... HDD? 4 grand...

I laugh when people saying PC gaming is expensive, when I was gaming in the 80-90's on PC. The prices have fallen so much it's scary.

[wesnef]

Publicado originalmente por Paratech2008:

My PC was around $1200 in 2020 and still works ok.

It could use a few upgrades, my 1660 6GB Super video card is a bit old but works on most games.

My 10550 6 core CPU ought to last a while as well as 16GB RAM.

I did upgrade my secondary hard drive to 4TB and want to upgrade my 1 TB SSD to 2TB.

I use 1080p so nothing demand much I want to play.

I built my current one for under $1k in 2020. So pre-built might have been 1250-1500?
And I replaced the GPU (that I got in 2019 for the previous PC) in 2023 for $275.
Yeah, I play in 1080p, too. You don't need to spend $3k+ to game on PC.

(there's also the part where a PC isn't *just* for gaming - you can build/buy one that's capable of doing games on, and also use it for other things. Like work, or home productivity, etc. So that's another reason someone might go PC instead of console.)

[Paratech2008]

Yeah in 1994, I picked up a $2000 PC.

33mhz, 200 meg hard drive, 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 floppy
1/2 meg video card, gen soundcard.

Win 3.1, DOS 5.0

[wesnef]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Oddly, a $3000 PC today, is still one of the cheapest high end gaming PC's you can build in gaming history. My Step Fathers 386 was 11 grand, custom from blackship computers. I'll never forget seeing that.

Commodore 64? $900 bucks, and that was considered cheap...
10MB.... Megabyte... HDD? 4 grand...

I laugh when people saying PC gaming is expensive, when I was gaming in the 80-90's on PC. The prices have fallen so much it's scary.

Yeah, if I recall, Apple ][+ in 1980 was a few thousand. It had a whole 64k of RAM after all!
(and the Macs I got in college in the late 80's-mid 90's, were $4-8k depending on model. My current one cost $500, but it's a Mini.)

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por wesnef:

Publicado originalmente por Paratech2008:

My PC was around $1200 in 2020 and still works ok.

It could use a few upgrades, my 1660 6GB Super video card is a bit old but works on most games.

My 10550 6 core CPU ought to last a while as well as 16GB RAM.

I did upgrade my secondary hard drive to 4TB and want to upgrade my 1 TB SSD to 2TB.

I use 1080p so nothing demand much I want to play.

I built my current one for under $1k in 2020. So pre-built might have been 1250-1500?
And I replaced the GPU (that I got in 2019 for the previous PC) in 2023 for $275.
Yeah, I play in 1080p, too. You don't need to spend $3k+ to game on PC.

(there's also the part where a PC isn't *just* for gaming - you can build/buy one that's capable of doing games on, and also use it for other things. Like work, or home productivity, etc. So that's another reason someone might go PC instead of console.)

Yep, unless you are elderly and mentally incapable its not hard to get a PC for under 1k that lasts longer then a console and can do far more then a console can.

[Piston Smashed™]

Publicado originalmente por Brian9824:

Yep, unless you are elderly and mentally incapable its not hard to get a PC for under 1k that lasts longer then a console and can do far more then a console can.

I'm not quite elderly just yet.

[Komarimaru]

I wouldn't say elderly is an issue oddly! My uncle retired NYPD in 1984. They turned 90 recently. They still love PC gaming, and understand all the components and what they do, and have a highly fair end PC rig.

They recently went back to Myst and Riven VR remakes, to replay them in a new way, and experience it in a different way with nostalgia.

[xBCxRangers]

Publicado originalmente por Boblin the Goblin:

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Questions of affordability and stupidity are two different matters. One may or can afford something, but "why" they would even want or need it? Compounded with other costs of life.

Idc what pension we're on, we're lucky to have that, and with that, have to know how to spend money effectively. Being in life, you're going to get old and sick.

If you want to spend money in your younger years on this minutia, as there are no more pensions, and being we are taking away your SS and Medicare (for Americans), you're only counting on what can be swiped away in one bank crash.

And with no mommy to count on, no shortage of people your job in helping the disadvantaged, being you're gonna do that until you pass on.

And so, i think Americans are seeing, there is not only any room for 3,000 PC's to play games. They have no money to even save.

And so, they're opting to play games on consoles and phones, rather than computers. Makes sense to me.

Oh, still doing trying to imply I'm not American? That's unfortunate.

Guess it does reveal why the pension is so low though.

In this city and the cost of living, it sure is low. It wasn't as low in the beginning. But these are matters you have to anticipate with savings, and not spending money stupidly on matters that are just needed give all of the alternatives.

[Tito Shivan]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Oddly, a $3000 PC today, is still one of the cheapest high end gaming PC's you can build in gaming history. My Step Fathers 386 was 11 grand, custom from blackship computers. I'll never forget seeing that.

Consumer electronics have become cheaper over the years. The only thing that has increased prices for PC gaming has been the crypto mining craze largely making an impossible mission to get the higher end GPUs at sensible prices.

[xBCxRangers]

Anyhow OP, you are correct. There is no reason to have to use PCs for gaming in this day and age anyhow. There are alternatives. And most by far, use those alternatives.

If you are rich, live on a trust, or have parents and want to spend all that money for the sake of games, go for it.

For folks who claim they have all these jobs, three jobs, five jobs, and seem to have all that time for gaming, read their books.

It is known, on every venue but here, PC is an expensive way of gaming.

I think Mr Newell knows that, and so he invented the Steam Deck. Nvidia knows that, and they created Ge Force Now. MS and Sony knows that, and why they went to game services themselves and now even handhelds.

If you want my counsel, particularly now and what's coming, save your money and take advantage of more practical ways of gaming.

[Çapgun]

Correct. Higher inflation makes the parts expensive.

[Piston Smashed™]

Publicado originalmente por Tito Shivan:

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Oddly, a $3000 PC today, is still one of the cheapest high end gaming PC's you can build in gaming history. My Step Fathers 386 was 11 grand, custom from blackship computers. I'll never forget seeing that.

Consumer electronics have become cheaper over the years. The only thing that has increased prices for PC gaming has been the crypto mining craze largely making an impossible mission to get the higher end GPUs at sensible prices.

I remember paying 85 quid for a Geforce 2 GTS 32mb back in 2000, 20 years later I paid 1250 quid for my 2080Ti and that was on sale, although it did come with a 1TB M.2 drive, ROG Headset and CoD MW (2019) so bargain.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Publicado originalmente por Boblin the Goblin:

Oh, still doing trying to imply I'm not American? That's unfortunate.

Guess it does reveal why the pension is so low though.

In this city and the cost of living, it sure is low. It wasn't as low in the beginning. But these are matters you have to anticipate with savings, and not spending money stupidly on matters that are just needed give all of the alternatives.

NYPD pensions adjust for multiple things. Two of those being inflations and performance/standing within the NYPD.

That means if the pension is low, it isn't due to inflation.

[Justice]

Most of modern AAA games sucks anyways. Not worth upgrading for them. Indy games is the future for gaming, they retained creativity, artistic style and don't obsses with politics as much

[Volfogg]

Publicado originalmente por Çapgun:

Correct. Higher inflation makes the parts expensive.

I'd say that higher inflation makes almost everything pretty damn expensive.