Will the State of Washingtons proposed "Wealth Tax" affect Valve and Mr Newell?

[xBCxRangers]

https://www.theolympian.com/news/state/washington/article297240314.html

Don't know how much Valve and Mr Newell is worth, but tens of billions are a guess. A 1% wealth tax as being proposed can generate tens of millions of dollars.

Will Mr Newell and Valve leave Washington? And given these matters generally go viral from state to state, will we see price increases?

As always, your Favorite Poster, and Pal,

Ranger

[xBCxRangers]

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He didn't have too. That was soley up to the judge. And to say the judge would have forced a man all the way from NZ to appear in person for civil deposition, not a murder case, was nowhere stated.

Mr Newell did not say he had to fly from NZ. He didn't claim "that" to be a hardship. He claimed he needed a mask or something of that nature. In short, he was not in NZ. And for all we know, he's still up at the puzzle palace atm, trying to push his new gaming console.

I had to go to Japan from America over a court case due to the property I owned there 8 years ago. The courts made me go, since was easier for one person to fly over there instead of many coming over to me. That's how laws and courts work.

And he said he wished for an online one, due to health reasons. Those health reasons due to his own admittance at the time of being in poor health in general and his fear of catching COVID 19. And you know what? He went. With the stipulation that those present passed a day before test for COVID and wore masks rated for KN95, K94 and N95. And was granted thus, since while still having to appear his health was still taken into account.

He lives mostly at sea now, and has his home port in New Zealand, as been said many times now. It's not that simple to get back to port from a random location at Sea and then Fly to a country for a court hearing that they feel is unneeded to be in person.

A case of this nature is still even done remotely. If he was in NZ, they would have done it that way. And this was LONG after Covid. He was here in the US.

But now accordingst to you, 'he lives at sea".

Good Grief.

In any event, i did predict Valves way of doing business was going to come to an end in this country.

And whether it's Wealth Taxes, or the CA matter, and now the Intelligence Committee of the United States, where i'm glad we all admit he is still a resident of this country.

Or even different states themselves with their own laws, i'd counsel he should move he and his company to New Zealand, if Mr Musk or Trump don't buy that country.

Being we're tired of these practices here.

In other words, unless he's in a Blue State and taxed to the heavens, or in a Red State regulated to the heavens, the status quo here on Steam is going to change.

[Brian9824]

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Again with your google law. If we need law advice, we'll talk to lawyers.

Thank you for showing you never read it, it linked the exact statute of the law. Again straight from the US government as you can see.

Your free to claim anything you want, however your claim is very easy to disprove

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-279-subpoenas

Subpoenas Directed to United States Citizens and Permanent Residents of the United States: 28 U.S.C. § 1783 authorizes the courts of the United States to issue subpoenas -- to a national or resident of the United States located in a foreign country -- to appear or to produce evidence.

You should stop googling your information if you can't back it up with facts. Mr Newell is a US citizen and the US government can compel someone to appear before US courts even if they are not currently in the US.

I mean your claim is like saying NY police can't have someone in Florida required to provide evidence in a case...

[Komarimaru]

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I had to go to Japan from America over a court case due to the property I owned there 8 years ago. The courts made me go, since was easier for one person to fly over there instead of many coming over to me. That's how laws and courts work.

And he said he wished for an online one, due to health reasons. Those health reasons due to his own admittance at the time of being in poor health in general and his fear of catching COVID 19. And you know what? He went. With the stipulation that those present passed a day before test for COVID and wore masks rated for KN95, K94 and N95. And was granted thus, since while still having to appear his health was still taken into account.

He lives mostly at sea now, and has his home port in New Zealand, as been said many times now. It's not that simple to get back to port from a random location at Sea and then Fly to a country for a court hearing that they feel is unneeded to be in person.

A case of this nature is still even done remotely. If he was in NZ, they would have done it that way. And this was LONG after Covid. He was here in the US.

But now accordingst to you, 'he lives at sea".

Good Grief.

In any event, i did predict Valves way of doing business was going to come to an end in this country.

And whether it's Wealth Taxes, or the CA matter, and now the Intelligence Committee of the United States, where i'm glad we all admit he is still a resident of this country.

Or even different states themselves with their own laws, i'd counsel he should move he and his company to New Zealand, if Mr Musk or Trump don't buy that country.

Being we're tired of these practices here.

In other words, unless he's in a Blue State and taxed to the heavens, or in a Red State regulated to the heavens, the status quo here on Steam is going to change.

He was not in the US at the time of the court asking him to go. He's been in New Zealand for years, people even posting pictures and videos of him there at the time as they see him, not really a big country after all.

And yes, he lives at Sea. I figured this was well known and documented. If you didn't know, now you do. He likes his privacy and isolation, most people do. Even you mocked him for his Yachts, you think they just sit docked? lol

And again, just because you're a resident of a country, doesn't mean what you think it does. It grants you the protections etc for when you are in said country, nothing more.

At this point you're just attacking Gabe Newell, all over you getting banned from forums. One, it's not fair to do so, and two not even with facts. Just made up things since you seem to lack the understanding on how the laws work.

[Brian9824]

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A case of this nature is still even done remotely. If he was in NZ, they would have done it that way. .

Completely false, please provide your source for making that claim. Even though we know like all your previous claims we have already disproved, that you will refuse while accusing everyone else of googling proof while you refuse to provide any proof at all.

The decision to allow remote testimony is at the discretion of the judge overseeing the case.

In the case of wealthy individuals the expenses of travel is not a factor as a plane ticket and travel expenses for Gabe Newell are insignificant and the judge felt the current risk of covid could be minimalized with precautions.

Many judges prefer testimony to be done in person because in the case of cross examination it can be more effective to be able to view someone in person and see how they react to the questions. Doing it remotely doesn't always convey the full experience.

[Brian9824]

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A case of this nature is still even done remotely. If he was in NZ, they would have done it that way. And this was LONG after Covid. He was here in the US.

But now accordingst to you, 'he lives at sea".

Good Grief.

In any event, i did predict Valves way of doing business was going to come to an end in this country.

And whether it's Wealth Taxes, or the CA matter, and now the Intelligence Committee of the United States, where i'm glad we all admit he is still a resident of this country.

Or even different states themselves with their own laws, i'd counsel he should move he and his company to New Zealand, if Mr Musk or Trump don't buy that country.

Being we're tired of these practices here.

In other words, unless he's in a Blue State and taxed to the heavens, or in a Red State regulated to the heavens, the status quo here on Steam is going to change.

He was not in the US at the time of the court asking him to go. He's been in New Zealand for years, people even posting pictures and videos of him there at the time as they see him, not really a big country after all.

And yes, he lives at Sea. I figured this was well known and documented. If you didn't know, now you do. He likes his privacy and isolation, most people do. Even you mocked him for his Yachts, you think they just sit docked? lol

And again, just because you're a resident of a country, doesn't mean what you think it does. It grants you the protections etc for when you are in said country, nothing more.

At this point you're just attacking Gabe Newell, all over you getting banned from forums. One, it's not fair to do so, and two not even with facts. Just made up things since you seem to lack the understanding on how the laws work.

I mean I knew that he spent most of his time at sea living and operating out of one of several yachts he has. Then again I d actually researched the subject and know he is also heavily involved in his deep sea exploration non profit, as well as his neural chip non profit and isn't involved in the day to day operations of Steam. Sadly some people don't bother doing research and find it easier to make up claims instead

[xBCxRangers]

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Again with your google law. If we need law advice, we'll talk to lawyers.

Thank you for showing you never read it, it linked the exact statute of the law. .

That is correct. I will not read your google law links. If lawyers agreed on everything, there would be no cases. Everyone has different opinions, and read laws in different ways.

Judges interpret laws in different ways.

Therefore it carries no water here.

What carries water here, are folks opinions about a Wealth Tax in the State of Washington, and those making over 100 million a year who's residents there have to pay.

Valve is located in WA, and so is Mr Newell. If he moved (IF) officially, great. If not, he has to pay the tax if the law is enacted.

In closing, a Wealth Tax is a fantastic idea.

I think many if not all Blue States should enact it. And if not, deal with Mr Abbot or Mr De Santis on which games you can sell. Or ages or morality, or what not.

Or, move to another country WITH the company, and give we in the US our own client, which is only fair if it's by a foreigner that cares nothing about our consumers.

[Brian9824]

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Thank you for showing you never read it, it linked the exact statute of the law. .

That is correct. I will not read your google law links.

So we will add websites to the list of topics you don't know about. Otherwise you'd know .gov stands for a government website and it lists the actual wordage of the law.

Your inability to understand it doesn't change facts

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What carries water here, are folks opinions about a Wealth Tax in the State of Washington, and those making over a million a year who are residents there have to pay.

Completely false yet again because you still haven't read the article. Wealth taxes are not based on how much you make, it's based on your net worth. Even if you made nothing you'd be subject to a wealth tax. You need to actually read so you know what you are talking about.

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Valve is located in WA, and so is Mr Newell. If he moved (IF) officially, great. If not, he has to pay the tax if the law is enacted.

Again false, it has nothing to do with his companies income, it's tied to his personal wealth. Wealth taxes having nothing to do with companies.

Sadly you keep refusing to read past the title of the article and still don't even know what a wealth tax is...

Anyways you've had it explained to you numerous times and if your refusing to read the article I wouldn't be surprised if mods close this thread soon, so I'm unsubbing from this as you've repeatey gotten your answer and seen to be focusing more on attacking people then actual facts

[Chika Ogiue]

Rangers unhealthy obsession with Gabe continues, huh.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

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Rangers unhealthy obsession with Gabe continues, huh.

It's like a soap opera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og7-6YubuS4

[Taebrythn]

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Well, your misinformation was that Washington DC, was Washington State.

And so yes, we have to correct misinformation as you were corrected.

Beyond that you're posting speculation in that somehow Mr Newell has permanently left Washington State and even the United States.

That is is misinformation as well, until anyone can prove that is the case. Therefore, your post a moot point until those matters can be proven.

Being they cannot, we do know Valve is located in Bellevue WA (which is not Washington DC) and that his main residence, is in Washington State.

I find it funny you say they spread misinformation when you do that plenty. you clearly don't understand the difference between vacation home and primary residence. lol i have a friend that has tri citizenship but he doesn't pay taxes to the countries he does not live in despite being a citizen. lol I am referring to residence not property taxes which are not the same thing. lol.

[Taebrythn]

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That is correct. I will not read your google law links.

So we will add websites to the list of topics you don't know about. Otherwise you'd know .gov stands for a government website and it lists the actual wordage of the law.

Your inability to understand it doesn't change facts

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What carries water here, are folks opinions about a Wealth Tax in the State of Washington, and those making over a million a year who are residents there have to pay.

Completely false yet again because you still haven't read the article. Wealth taxes are not based on how much you make, it's based on your net worth. Even if you made nothing you'd be subject to a wealth tax. You need to actually read so you know what you are talking about.

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Valve is located in WA, and so is Mr Newell. If he moved (IF) officially, great. If not, he has to pay the tax if the law is enacted.

Again false, it has nothing to do with his companies income, it's tied to his personal wealth. Wealth taxes having nothing to do with companies.

Sadly you keep refusing to read past the title of the article and still don't even know what a wealth tax is...

Anyways you've had it explained to you numerous times and if your refusing to read the article I wouldn't be surprised if mods close this thread soon, so I'm unsubbing from this as you've repeatey gotten your answer and seen to be focusing more on attacking people then actual facts

I don't know why you bother to really talk to Ranger. he is often wrong and doesn't understand a lot of things. claims a lot of stuff but is wrong often. i like how he believes a link from a newsmedia but refuses to look up anything else.

There is a reason why i just laugh at some. it was similar when people were claiming to know something despite it being there. Isn't ranger trying to use his searching to discredit Valve and gabe at every point? for someone who simply doesn't care i see the other side.

Even i know the difference between a primary and a secondary home. When i was selling my home it mentioned that. when i paid property taxes it also talked about that. It told me what it took in my state for it to be considered primary residence. Same reason you can't vote in multiple states.

[xBCxRangers]

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Well, your misinformation was that Washington DC, was Washington State.

And so yes, we have to correct misinformation as you were corrected.

Beyond that you're posting speculation in that somehow Mr Newell has permanently left Washington State and even the United States.

That is is misinformation as well, until anyone can prove that is the case. Therefore, your post a moot point until those matters can be proven.

Being they cannot, we do know Valve is located in Bellevue WA (which is not Washington DC) and that his main residence, is in Washington State.

I find it funny you say they spread misinformation when you do that plenty. you clearly don't understand the difference between vacation home and primary residence. lol i have a friend that has tri citizenship but he doesn't pay taxes to the countries he does not live in despite being a citizen. lol I am referring to residence not property taxes which are not the same thing. lol.

Well the whole point of all that, is nobody can prove anything. They have hunches. My hunch is that he's still a resident of WA, and in fact, i'm not gonna post it, but he has property in WA.

And so my hunch is NZ is his vacation residence, as WA still his main residence.

If it is, he will pay the tax. Or, move out of WA totally.

Being idt the Governor is gonna buy that Mr Newell is "living at sea' as a means to abscond a liability likely from one of his most wealthy residents.

[Komarimaru]

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I find it funny you say they spread misinformation when you do that plenty. you clearly don't understand the difference between vacation home and primary residence. lol i have a friend that has tri citizenship but he doesn't pay taxes to the countries he does not live in despite being a citizen. lol I am referring to residence not property taxes which are not the same thing. lol.

Well the whole point of all that, is nobody can prove anything. They have hunches. My hunch is that he's still a resident of WA, and in fact, i'm not gonna post it, but he has property in WA.

And so my hunch is NZ is his vacation residence, as WA still his main residence.

If it is, he will pay the tax. Or, move out of WA totally.

Being idt the Governor is gonna buy that Mr Newell is "living at sea' as a means to abscond a liability likely from one of his most wealthy residents.

No, it's well documented for what others said, as I pointed out, in many articles even. You just don't accept it was proof since "Google" You were unable to post anything of the contrary though.

He doesn't have to lose his home in Washington at all. He'll keep it, and pay just property taxes as required, since doesn't live there full time. That's how it works.

[xBCxRangers]

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Well the whole point of all that, is nobody can prove anything. They have hunches. My hunch is that he's still a resident of WA, and in fact, i'm not gonna post it, but he has property in WA.

And so my hunch is NZ is his vacation residence, as WA still his main residence.

If it is, he will pay the tax. Or, move out of WA totally.

Being idt the Governor is gonna buy that Mr Newell is "living at sea' as a means to abscond a liability likely from one of his most wealthy residents.

No, it's well documented for what others said, as I pointed out, in many articles even. You just don't accept it was proof since "Google" You were unable to post anything of the contrary though.

He doesn't have to lose his home in Washington at all. He'll keep it, and pay just property taxes as required, since doesn't live there full time. That's how it works.

Well when he does his taxes, he has to prove i suppose the State of Washington is only a vacation resort, that he is a captain of a ship at sea, and is no longer obligated to pay his income tax.

[Komarimaru]

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No, it's well documented for what others said, as I pointed out, in many articles even. You just don't accept it was proof since "Google" You were unable to post anything of the contrary though.

He doesn't have to lose his home in Washington at all. He'll keep it, and pay just property taxes as required, since doesn't live there full time. That's how it works.

Well when he does his taxes, he has to prove i suppose the State of Washington is only a vacation resort, that he is a captain of a ship at sea, and is no longer obligated to pay his income tax.

He has professionals that do it for him I am sure. Less hassle and lets him stay on his yachts etc. And yes, that's how it works. You pay income tax based on where you live, surprised you didn't know this, figured this was known by all at this point.