Glitch in the trading matrix.

[Woligi]

You can just buy a game, get trading cards (you usually can get 1-3 cards before 2 hours) and get a refund.

This is pretty bad and Valve should do something about it.
They could make it so that you can't get trading cards until 2 hours has passed.
They can't take trading cards back as you could have traded them away or turned them into gems.

You could basically get free trading cards which you can sell.

I had played a game for 31 minutes and I got 2 cards. :/

Why hasn't Valve done anything about this?

[jk]

Trading cards are just 0.06-0.10 (depends on the game)

they are not getting much and?
you get trading cards from that game play less then 2 hours dont like the game get refund and nothing happens.

Stop crying cuz they get 3-4 trading cards.

[Woligi]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย JookerBB:

Trading cards are just 0.06-0.10 (depends on the game)

they are not getting much and?
you get trading cards from that game play less then 2 hours dont like the game get refund and nothing happens.

Stop crying cuz they get 3-4 trading cards.

What? I'm not crying because other people get trading cards.
I'm not crying at all.

I got 2 trading cards and then requested a refund.
I don't want to get banned or restricted from requesting refunds because of that.

It's an easy fix. And even if cards aren't worth a bazillion dollers doesn't mean it's not free money.

[Suffering causes Resilience]

I doubt that's going to work, people who will be doing this will lose their steam account rather quickly I'd guess or lose the ability to refund atleast.

The refunding system isn't meant to buy 20 games a week and refund them all, I highly doubt that would ever happen.

[Purple Tentacle]

you do it to often and you'll be banned for abusing the refund system, is £1 or £2 worth of cards worth getting your account banned ?

[Woligi]

I'm not trying to get the cards. I can't choose not to get the cards.
I play a game, I get Trading Cards, I get a refund for whatever reason, and I keep the cards.

I don't want to get the cards, but I have no choice.

[Migz - DH]

Although the Abuse clause doesn't specifically name cards, I suspect Valve could include this situation if they notice people buying, getting cards, and refunding the game a lot:

Abuse

Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.

[💢𝓐ℓ ¢нємιѕт💢]

They won't allow anyone to abuse it. They have clearly stated that right from the beginning.

If someone refunds too many times, their account will be flagged.

[Woligi]

Valve stated that requesting a refund to then buy the game in a sale is not abusing the system.

Then what is abusing?
Requesting a lot of refunds = abusing?

I request a lot of refunds because I like to buy games without a risk.
I buy a game, play it for a few minutes, and if I don't like it, I get a refund.
Or if there's a problem with the game..
That's abusing? I don't want to get Trading Cards for free. I don't want to abuse the system.
I don't want to risk my account. The page says nothing about what abusing is.

[Migz - DH]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PapiDimmi:

Requesting a lot of refunds = abusing?

Clearly.

However, what "a lot" is isn't well defined.

[Woligi]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Migz - DH:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PapiDimmi:

Requesting a lot of refunds = abusing?

Clearly.

However, what "a lot" is isn't well defined.

What do you mean, "clearly?"

It doesn't say anything about requesting a lot of refunds on the Steam Refunds page.

[💢𝓐ℓ ¢нємιѕт💢]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PapiDimmi:

Valve stated that requesting a refund to then buy the game in a sale is not abusing the system.

Then what is abusing?
Requesting a lot of refunds = abusing?

I request a lot of refunds because I like to buy games without a risk.
I buy a game, play it for a few minutes, and if I don't like it, I get a refund.
Or if there's a problem with the game..
That's abusing? I don't want to get Trading Cards for free. I don't want to abuse the system.
I don't want to risk my account. The page says nothing about what abusing is.

The page doesn't say anything cuz then the abusers will find loopholes to bypass it.

[Woligi]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Al Chemist:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PapiDimmi:

Valve stated that requesting a refund to then buy the game in a sale is not abusing the system.

Then what is abusing?
Requesting a lot of refunds = abusing?

I request a lot of refunds because I like to buy games without a risk.
I buy a game, play it for a few minutes, and if I don't like it, I get a refund.
Or if there's a problem with the game..
That's abusing? I don't want to get Trading Cards for free. I don't want to abuse the system.
I don't want to risk my account. The page says nothing about what abusing is.

The page doesn't say anything cuz then the abusers will find loopholes to bypass it.

Genius... herpaderp

[Purpleater]

The rules on abuse are pretty vague...

Abuse

"Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price."

I'd guess that if your account is highlighted for constant refunds, and they're all for games that have trading cards, and you're selling all of those cards, then Valve might say that it appears to them that you are abusing refunds. They don't say your account will get banned, just that they might stop letting you refund games.

But Valve and the game dev each get a small cut of market transactions from the transaction fee. So even if someone does this, Valve and the dev will still be making money. Only a tiny amount of money, but still, they'll be getting their cut.

It also sounds like a lot of effort to make at most a couple dollars worth of trading cards per day, so I doubt many people would do this.