Valve Censoring Customers That Disagree with DEI

[Romans1]

I very rarely post on the forums. I responded to a thread about DEI in games and I disagreed with the practice saying it was wrong. my post was deleted and the thread was locked and any "positive emojis linked to the post were removed and "negative" emojis were left.

Does anyone else have this kind of experience?

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/romans1/posthistory/

Literally they only have ever made 1 post anywhere in the steam forums for the entire history of their steam account and it's this thread and they aren't responding to it. Smells like shenanigans to me.

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

"I was terrible and i got punished for it? Who will think of the horrible people?"

[Paratech2008]

Nguyên văn bởi Animus:

Nguyên văn bởi Paratech2008:

Nope critisizing woke or LGBTQ can get a ban.

Critisizing religion, particularly Christianity, is considered ok,

How you say something is just as important as what you say. Open insults, aren't criticism.

I've seen Christians mocked as well as the religion daily. Many people hate Christians and their faith.

Just not supporting or disagreement of LGBTQ or DEI can get a ban.

I'm just pointing out Valve is ok with bashing Christianity and followers of Christianity, but LGBTQ and DEI is "sacred" to them.

Aren't their paid mods also "woke"?

[PsyChuan]

actually it's good to bash repressive religions, and it's bad to advocate for repression.

[Baloo Uriza]

Nguyên văn bởi Myrth:

Nguyên văn bởi Baloo Uriza:

Sounds like the moderators made the correct call. Try improving as a person. What part of diversity, inclusion or equity do you have a problem with? (Hint: any problem with it is inheirently antiamerican)

How about the fact it shifts the priority away from quality and creativity.

How? Show your work.

[Baloo Uriza]

Nguyên văn bởi Poor Bastard:

Nguyên văn bởi Ben Lubar:

I just looked up the word "equity" on a search engine and found the opposite of what you claimed from several reliable sources.

Nope. I took a week long class on DEI. Affirmative action is a big part of it. The idea that discrimination must be used to counter discrimination.

"I'm not allowed to discriminate is discrimination!" is an antiamerican and antihumanitarian take.

[Myrth the Plague]

Nguyên văn bởi Baloo Uriza:

Nguyên văn bởi Myrth:

How about the fact it shifts the priority away from quality and creativity.

How? Show your work.

Well the most recent example would be veilguard, it had continuity, lore, and contradicting plot all through the game not to mention how unimagative the gameplay was with a highly linear path and no real choices that impact the game in any meaningful way. Concord is another due to its heavy interest in gender themes. These are 2 examples of AAA games the had both over 200mill in budget and each of their respective studios shut down. As I said in previous posts, DEI has noble goals and the potential to be good but it cannot be the focus of the game, the story, lore, world, and quality always have to come first.

[Tito Shivan]

Nguyên văn bởi Paratech2008:

I'm just pointing out Valve is ok with bashing Christianity and followers of Christianity

Are you talking about the nationalistic brand of christianity here, by any chance?

[ErickaUnlimited]

Nguyên văn bởi Tito Shivan:

Nguyên văn bởi Paratech2008:

I'm just pointing out Valve is ok with bashing Christianity and followers of Christianity

Are you talking about the nationalistic brand of christianity here, by any chance?

Most definitely.

[secuda]

Good those topics are getting conserning radical right each times passes.

[Myrth the Plague]

Nguyên văn bởi ErickaUnlimited:

Nguyên văn bởi Tito Shivan:

Are you talking about the nationalistic brand of christianity here, by any chance?

Most definitely.

Genuine question what is nationalistic brand of Christianity? Not trying to sound sarcastic or disengenuious but i genuinely don't know.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:

Nguyên văn bởi Ben Lubar:

Which part of diversity, equity, and inclusion do you disagree with?

Equity =/= equality

Equality means equal rights and opportunities.

Equity means equal outcomes, and it allows for various forms of discrimination.

If you're going to call that discrimination, you could call giving a sick person medication but not giving the healthy person next to them the same medication discrimination as well.

[D. Flame]

Nguyên văn bởi Doctor Zalgo:

Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:

Equity =/= equality

Equality means equal rights and opportunities.

Equity means equal outcomes, and it allows for various forms of discrimination.

If you're going to call that discrimination, you could call giving a sick person medication but not giving the healthy person next to them the same medication discrimination as well.

It would be more like during a famine saying, "we already have enough people with black hair, so we are taking away your share of rations and giving them to this blonde lady instead."

[Doctor Zalgo]

Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:

Nguyên văn bởi Doctor Zalgo:

If you're going to call that discrimination, you could call giving a sick person medication but not giving the healthy person next to them the same medication discrimination as well.

It would be more like during a famine saying, "we already have enough people with black hair, so we are taking away your share of rations and giving them to this blonde lady instead."

No, whoever told you that got it wrong. An example of equity is letting someone with two broken hands dictate their exam answers to an examiner verbally. It doesn't doesn't "take away other student rations".

Equality would be saying 'its fair because all students have to write their answers'.

[D. Flame]

Nguyên văn bởi Doctor Zalgo:

Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:

It would be more like during a famine saying, "we already have enough people with black hair, so we are taking away your share of rations and giving them to this blonde lady instead."

No, whoever told you that got it wrong. An example of equity is letting someone with two broken hands dictate their exam answers to an examiner verbally. It doesn't doesn't "take away other student rations".

Equality would be saying 'its fair because all students have to write their answers'.

You're the one who is wrong. Allowing someone with no hands to participate in the test would be equality. Under a sane system, that is how equity would be handled as well.

That is not how equity is handled IRL.

This is literally a question on a yearly DEI training:

You advertise for an open IT position. A dozen well-qualified people apply to this white male and Asian male dominated field. All of the applicants are white or Asian males. What should you do?

A.) Hire the first person to apply

B.) Interview all of the candidates who applied and pick the most qualified applicant from among the group

C.) Set aside all of these application and reach out to a 3rd party agency/recruiter to obtain a more diverse group of application

And while B should be the obvious answer, it gets marked wrong. They want you to select answer C.

This test was administered to employees at a college. Now imagine if you were a white or Asian male studying Information Technology at that college. How would you feel about this?

This is why people, who would have otherwise been allies, got pushed into the arms of the far right.

Not to mention the guilt-based trainings (e.g. "what micro aggressions are you guilty of?").