Do the DEI developers of games such as concord and veilguard still have an audience?
Concord is an infamous failure, and veilguard didn't do badly but it was very far away from breaking any sales records. I look at social media groups that built up 10+ million subscribers like IGN and ther videos today have hardly any attention. Kotaku was a titan of games media too, and barely anyone looks at anymore.

The only reason I am asking about this is that modern year games aren't my main focus for gaming anymore. None of my past 5 games were developed in the 2020s. I am not opposed to DEI in principle, and I recognize that as filled to the brim as veilguard was with the stuff, I probably would have disliked it for a whole lot of reasons related to gameplay and the lack of continuity it had with the dragon age series from an artistic and lore point of view.
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Chompman Jan 10 @ 8:01pm 
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The entire "dei" thing had nothing to do with any game failures as it's about how fun the game is more then anything.

People saying such things are just making excuses for why it failed because of some made up beliefs.
I did I did! I saw a trans thing in Veilguard! It took me 9 hours or so but I saw one! It was an option thing and it specifically said "starts the transgender stuff". I saw it!

And then I didn't click it and I haven't seen anything else since :/

And there was nothing before that. Like I'm feeling really gypped here. I'm gonna refund.
Yzal Jan 10 @ 8:33pm 
"Still" have an audience?
They never had one.
secuda Jan 10 @ 8:46pm 
How old are you op?
Originally posted by secuda:
How old are you op?

Old enough to remember the beginning of IGN in 1996. It got my attention when I was looking for information on baldurs gate, fallout and sid meiers alpha centauri.
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secuda Jan 10 @ 8:56pm 
Originally posted by sick duck:
Originally posted by secuda:
How old are you op?

Old enough to remember the beginning of IGN in 1996. It got my attention when I was looking for information on baldurs gate, fallout and sid meiers alpha centauri.

It was a retoricall question because only kids seems to belive in such things it was a failior because of one thing DEI.
Originally posted by secuda:
Originally posted by sick duck:

Old enough to remember the beginning of IGN in 1996. It got my attention when I was looking for information on baldurs gate, fallout and sid meiers alpha centauri.

It was a retoricall question because only kids seems to belive in such things it was a failior because of one thing DEI.

Okay. You must not have read what I wanted you to in the OP I guess, because I told you my feelings about DEI and how it was the least of veilguards issues. If you can't bother to read my OP how can I trust you to read anything else I say?
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Originally posted by Realigo Actual:
I did I did! I saw a trans thing in Veilguard! It took me 9 hours or so but I saw one! It was an option thing and it specifically said "starts the transgender stuff". I saw it!

And then I didn't click it and I haven't seen anything else since :/

And there was nothing before that. Like I'm feeling really gypped here. I'm gonna refund.
refund after 9 hours? ya done goofed
they literally never had an audience
according to blizzard who tracks it the modern audience at most is 20%

the rest is white guys who tolerated their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for too long

they literlaly published the info because they support the modern audence

the trans where 2% divided between two 1% women where like 7% and blacks where around 11% the total count for the 20% was assuming 100% of blacks and women support it.

looks at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in womens sports and how women are reacting.... ya... sure... okay...

reason isnt known to be a political activist on the left strong point.
secuda Jan 10 @ 9:10pm 
Originally posted by sick duck:
Originally posted by secuda:

It was a retoricall question because only kids seems to belive in such things it was a failior because of one thing DEI.

Okay. You must not have read what I wanted you to in the OP I guess, because I told you my feelings about DEI and how it was the least of veilguards issues. If you can't bother to read my OP how can I trust you to read anything else I say?

It most likley failed because it failed to sell a quota to fund for its tv show it sold 20K its first week, despite that it had severall issues. it was a overwatch game in 2024 and had a AAA price /when overwatch 2 existed), it had NFT in it wich gamers dont like longer then anti woke nonsense hit, it supose to on demand shop on top of being a AAA pricing. none of these screamed DEI fault. but rather good old fashion corpo greed.
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Originally posted by sick duck:
Originally posted by secuda:
How old are you op?

Old enough to remember the beginning of IGN in 1996. It got my attention when I was looking for information on baldurs gate, fallout and sid meiers alpha centauri.
then your old enough to know ign went to ♥♥♥♥ because of dei leftest activism and no one wastes times with them. your also old enough to know they abused tolerance to gays to start it.
Originally posted by Chompman:
The entire "dei" thing had nothing to do with any game failures as it's about how fun the game is more then anything.

People saying such things are just making excuses for why it failed because of some made up beliefs.
Not to mention most of BioWare's games had so-called woke content and were still successful.
Ben Lubar Jan 10 @ 10:55pm 
Originally posted by Crystal Sharrd:
Originally posted by Chompman:
The entire "dei" thing had nothing to do with any game failures as it's about how fun the game is more then anything.

People saying such things are just making excuses for why it failed because of some made up beliefs.
Not to mention most of BioWare's games had so-called woke content and were still successful.
Many of the most played games on Steam are so-called "woke" games. If anything, the correlation goes the other way: making a game world that the widest possible group of potential players can see themselves existing in makes a game's potential audience the biggest it can be.

Every game I own from the top 30 games for peak concurrent players on Steam in the past 24 hours has appeared on at least one list of "woke" games.
Games don't fail because of "DEI", they fail because they're bad or because they end up overlooked.

1) "Daikatana" - failed because it was bad
2) "Metal Fatigue" - failed because it wasn't a Starcraft clone
3) "Duke Nukem forever" - failed because of being overhyped while taking forever to develop and ultimately under-delivered
4) "Command & Conquer 4" and "Warhammer 40.000 Dawn of War III" failed because they brought change nobody wanted into the franchises
5) "Concord" - failed because it was competing with four free to play shooters, had nothing to justify a price tag and was excluding over 170 countries as audience due to a mandatory PSN account. "DEI" had nothing to do with its failure.
Ben Lubar Jan 10 @ 11:51pm 
Originally posted by The nameless Gamer:
5) "Concord" - failed because it was competing with four free to play shooters, had nothing to justify a price tag and was excluding over 170 countries as audience due to a mandatory PSN account. "DEI" had nothing to do with its failure.
That, and they forgot to tell most people the game even existed before they shut it down.
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