Pending balance is just so they get more transactions...

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HYPE Jan 10 @ 10:44am

How does this help with anything? this only makes people who don't want to wait 2 full days for something to make extra transactions.

This company really only cares about money, they have no care for any of their users.

Valve is such a scummy company it's crazy. It's really all about the money and nothing else.

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Wolf Knight Jan 10 @ 10:48am

you may want to clarify what balance is pending. market transaction, adding funds to your wallet, etc.

fraud protection is not scummy, they are trying to protect themselves and their users when possible.

you being unable to wait for the transaction to clear is not a steam issue, its a YOU issue.

John Henry Eden Jan 10 @ 10:53am

Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
you may want to clarify what balance is pending. market transaction, adding funds to your wallet, etc.

fraud protection is not scummy, they are trying to protect themselves and their users when possible.

you being unable to wait for the transaction to clear is not a steam issue, its a YOU issue.

youre right, GOG is better, thank you

jerk store Jan 10 @ 11:20am

Originally posted by HYPE:
How does this help with anything? this only makes people who don't want to wait 2 full days for something to make extra transactions.

This company really only cares about money, they have no care for any of their users.

Valve is such a scummy company it's crazy. It's really all about the money and nothing else.

100% that's why they don't even discuss it, it has 0% to do with security...It is just a big old scam to make them more money...addicted people will keep adding and adding more and more wallet while they wait a day or two....It's ridiculous and I can't believe it's legal, their lawyers must've found a loophole for them, how is it fair the buyer gets the item instantly and seller has to wait a day or two? Nobody will ever answer that question for you, even Valve employees, I go off actions and their actions tell me this has nothing to do with security and everything to do with making more and more money. It's like Bidenflation, they control all the money so they think they can profit infinitely, it really is eerily similar to price gauging or tax hiking for no other reason than they can or they make up some bs about it being a change for security. WHERE IS THE PROOF of that? Nobody has any so we are left to come up with our own opinions, addicted people who spend a ton of money here are being taken advantage of like nothing i've ever seen.

jerk store Jan 10 @ 11:23am

Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
you may want to clarify what balance is pending. market transaction, adding funds to your wallet, etc.

fraud protection is not scummy, they are trying to protect themselves and their users when possible.

you being unable to wait for the transaction to clear is not a steam issue, its a YOU issue.

Where is your proof this change was made for fraud security? If their system has been exploited steam guard and all the hoops don't work than take the market down completely. They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.

nullable Jan 10 @ 11:30am

Originally posted by jerk store:
Where is your proof this change was made for fraud security? If their system has been exploited steam guard and all the hoops don't work than take the market down completely. They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.

Well likely a majority of users want the market to keep existing, and taking it down would piss of a lot of users. But.... doing nothing to mitigate users careless or reckless behaviors that lead to account hijacks and such also raises complaints. Valve ain't gonna get points for doing nothing either.

And no matter what you do to try and balance security and utility, you can't please everyone. Person A things it's too much security and inconvenience, person B wants Valve to add a dozen more layers of security and hoops, person C might always thing whatever the current implementation is fine, and so on. And no one wants the other group or Valve doing anything to go against their ideas of the best course of action.

Originally posted by jerk store:
Where is your proof this change was made for fraud security? If their system has been exploited steam guard and all the hoops don't work than take the market down completely. They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.

What's your proof that's some maliciously greed driven scheme?

Wolfpig Jan 10 @ 11:40am

Originally posted by jerk store:
They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.

How would pending balances bring them more money from the market?
The part that they remove wallet founds with every market transaction is bringing them more money from that, as people need to put money in the wallet if they want to buy their vanity stuff.

HikariLight Jan 10 @ 12:05pm

Originally posted by jerk store:
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
you may want to clarify what balance is pending. market transaction, adding funds to your wallet, etc.

fraud protection is not scummy, they are trying to protect themselves and their users when possible.

you being unable to wait for the transaction to clear is not a steam issue, its a YOU issue.
Where is your proof this change was made for fraud security? If their system has been exploited steam guard and all the hoops don't work than take the market down completely. They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.

Steam HAS to cover all of the bases in regards to payments.
Because if someone uses a stolen bank/credit card, then if Steam doesn't do any checks, then Steam is in trouble.

HYPE Jan 10 @ 12:08pm

Originally posted by Wolfpig:
Originally posted by jerk store:
They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.

How would pending balances bring them more money from the market?
The part that they remove wallet founds with every market transaction is bringing them more money from that, as people need to put money in the wallet if they want to buy their vanity stuff.

i have a lot of skins in CS and when I want to buy a game or buy something in a game i sell my stuff to get balance. When I sell something near the market price it sometimes gives me pending balance, if I wanted to use this balance on the spot, it would force me to either sell something else and pray it doesn't turn into pending balance or just add funds. Keep in mind that Valve takes a cut of every transaction when using the market.
They say that this prevents scammers but when you get scammed they never turn back anything, once something is traded or sold it's over, so they are pretty much being annoying for their own profit as they always have done.

jerk store Jan 10 @ 12:15pm

Originally posted by nullable:
Originally posted by jerk store:
Where is your proof this change was made for fraud security? If their system has been exploited steam guard and all the hoops don't work than take the market down completely. They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.

Well likely a majority of users want the market to keep existing, and taking it down would piss of a lot of users. But.... doing nothing to mitigate users careless or reckless behaviors that lead to account hijacks and such also raises complaints. Valve ain't gonna get points for doing nothing either.

And no matter what you do to try and balance security and utility, you can't please everyone. Person A things it's too much security and inconvenience, person B wants Valve to add a dozen more layers of security and hoops, person C might always thing whatever the current implementation is fine, and so on. And no one wants the other group or Valve doing anything to go against their ideas of the best course of action.

Originally posted by jerk store:
Where is your proof this change was made for fraud security? If their system has been exploited steam guard and all the hoops don't work than take the market down completely. They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.

What's your proof that's some maliciously greed driven scheme?

Again I go by actions, their actions are all the proof I or any person without an agenda or is being paid to defend their actions should need.

jerk store Jan 10 @ 12:16pm

Originally posted by HYPE:
Originally posted by Wolfpig:

How would pending balances bring them more money from the market?
The part that they remove wallet founds with every market transaction is bringing them more money from that, as people need to put money in the wallet if they want to buy their vanity stuff.
i have a lot of skins in CS and when I want to buy a game or buy something in a game i sell my stuff to get balance. When I sell something near the market price it sometimes gives me pending balance, if I wanted to use this balance on the spot, it would force me to either sell something else and pray it doesn't turn into pending balance or just add funds. Keep in mind that Valve takes a cut of every transaction when using the market.
They say that this prevents scammers but when you get scammed they never turn back anything, once something is traded or sold it's over, so they are pretty much being annoying for their own profit as they always have done.

Exactly what the op says, more transactions = more $$$, why is this so hard to understand

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ナルゴ Jan 10 @ 12:16pm

It's for your own protection, so that your account can't get cleaned out if it gets hijacked.

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jerk store Jan 10 @ 12:17pm

Originally posted by HikariLight:
Originally posted by jerk store:
Where is your proof this change was made for fraud security? If their system has been exploited steam guard and all the hoops don't work than take the market down completely. They will never do that that is how all should know this was done to make them more money.
Steam HAS to cover all of the bases in regards to payments.
Because if someone uses a stolen bank/credit card, then if Steam doesn't do any checks, then Steam is in trouble.

So nobody was using stolen CC'S for the 8 years before this change was made?

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