How much better is pc gaming on Linux operating systems now?
I hate Microsoft and I dislike Windows, I lost my Windows license when my computer broke back in August and I had to replace its motherboard. Linux from what I understand is technically much better than Windows in most aspects, except for gaming. I own a Steam Deck which runs on a Linux distro and the one major issue I have with the handheld besides its battery life is the fact that not all Steam games run on the operating system. Sadly most pc games are made to work with Windows, but with the Steam Deck I can use a program called proton experimental which helps those games work on the Steam Deck. Can I use proton on other Linux distros or is it only SteamOS? From what I understand Linux operating systems are getting better at handling gaming, which is a Linux distro do you recommend for gaming and general computer use? Actually I am curious why is Linux less used than both Windows and Mac?
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ReBoot 8. jan. kl. 20.45 
Pro tip: you should understand what things are instead of wishful thinking. From a technical standpoint, Linux isn't better. Not for General-purpose computers (Linux has some real advantages when it comes to appliances & servers).

For General-purpose computing, Linux has disadvantages, first & foremost abyssimal binary compatibility. It's needlessly hard to run Linux software on Linux (and the Idealists claiming the problem to be the rest of the world not doing it the Linux way can ♥♥♥♥ right off).

With that out of the way, there's literally nothing preventing you from isntallong Steam on any other Linux and use it's built-in Proton. You could go with Manjaro (which is technically related to SteamOS). Others recommend Ubuntu (or a derivate). Another Linux would be Pop_OS. You could also go with Bazzite.

You can also simply dock your Deck to your desk setup and use SteamOS on it. That one time my gaming battlestation died, I've used my Deck as my primary PC for a week or two. Works absolutely fine. Keyboard, mouse, my 2 monitors & Deck really is a working, fully-fledged PC you can do PC stuff on. Just try it, if you want to get a whiff of desktop Linux and got a Deck already, it really is by far the easiest way.
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D. Flame 8. jan. kl. 22.08 
In the past, there were like half a dozen games you could play on linux.

Now almost everything works on Linux thanks to proton, other than online multiplayer games that got bribed by Microsoft to block Linux. And yes, Proton works on Desktop Linux too.

Like Apex and GTAO both used to work on Linux, then the companies intentionally blocked them after M$ threw a fit. Meanwhile, Marvel Rivals said they welcome Linux players. The new CoD game blocks Linux and has overwhelmingly negative recent reviews with mixed overall; Marvel Rivals has over whelming positive reviews for both.
Pugs 8. jan. kl. 22.13 
You should do what most people do...

Windows still has a lot of practical uses and I may be wrong here, but some games still can't run on Linux. So keep it and partition some space on your hard drive to install a version of linux that interests you and play around. Install a few games you like and give it a go.

Honestly, I would love to dump Windows, but I have so many programs, mod packs, etc. that I can't let go of and won't run will through Linux. Though, when the Steam OS comes out, hey, I might have some space on the SSD for it a games i want to bring over ;)
D. Flame 8. jan. kl. 22.21 
Opprinnelig skrevet av ReBoot:
Pro tip: you should understand what things are instead of wishful thinking. From a technical standpoint, Linux isn't better. Not for General-purpose computers (Linux has some real advantages when it comes to appliances & servers).

For General-purpose computing, Linux has disadvantages, first & foremost abyssimal binary compatibility. It's needlessly hard to run Linux software on Linux (and the Idealists claiming the problem to be the rest of the world not doing it the Linux way can ♥♥♥♥ right off).

With that out of the way, there's literally nothing preventing you from isntallong Steam on any other Linux and use it's built-in Proton. You could go with Manjaro (which is technically related to SteamOS). Others recommend Ubuntu (or a derivate). Another Linux would be Pop_OS. You could also go with Bazzite.

You can also simply dock your Deck to yourbdesk setup and use SteamOS on it. That one time my gaming battlestation died, I've used my Deck as my primary PC for a week or two. Works absolutely fine.
You're just wrong.

Linux software is runs on linux with like one click if you use a proper distro. Stop trying to install distros like Arch that are aimed at programming experts if you are not an expert. Distros like Mint, ZorinOS, PopOS, etc. all have a Software Manager/Store that works just the same as it would work on something like a smart phone. If you can't figure out how to click the big button labelled "Install" in the software store then that is on you.

As for other programs, they could just as easily be made for Linux as they are for Windows. They only reason that they are not is simply because the devs are going for the lowest common denominator. Linux is actually better for that. It just has less users, so it is less focused on currently.
Sist redigert av D. Flame; 8. jan. kl. 22.40
Does linux mint have proton and is userfriendly for games too?
D. Flame 8. jan. kl. 23.27 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Muppet among Puppets:
Does linux mint have proton and is userfriendly for games too?
Proton is built into Steam itself.
Does it work for games other than steam?
Thiesen 9. jan. kl. 1.50 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Muppet among Puppets:
Does it work for games other than steam?

Lutris exists... :-)

Do some research....

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D. Flame 9. jan. kl. 1.52 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Muppet among Puppets:
Does it work for games other than steam?
https://heroicgameslauncher.com/
Dura_Ace 9. jan. kl. 11.56 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Lazarus:
I hate Microsoft and I dislike Windows, I lost my Windows license when my computer broke back in August and I had to replace its motherboard. Linux from what I understand is technically much better than Windows in most aspects, except for gaming. I own a Steam Deck which runs on a Linux distro and the one major issue I have with the handheld besides its battery life is the fact that not all Steam games run on the operating system. Sadly most pc games are made to work with Windows, but with the Steam Deck I can use a program called proton experimental which helps those games work on the Steam Deck. Can I use proton on other Linux distros or is it only SteamOS? From what I understand Linux operating systems are getting better at handling gaming, which is a Linux distro do you recommend for gaming and general computer use? Actually I am curious why is Linux less used than both Windows and Mac?
The replacing the license issue is funny. What they say and do are two different things. Ive had to replace the license, OEM, when changing a motherboard and also for changing a CPU.

They say it is tied to the HDD/SSD but that is not the case when you change mobo and are presented with needing to get a license.

I am moving towards linux by OCT 2025 when win 10 dies. I am done with MS and their BS ways.

No more snooping. No more using me to train their AI for free. No more nagging me when i make choices on my system.

Yes, i did just change to firefox browser and even made it the default browser. Are you dumb enough not to see the buttons i just ticked?

So why are you asking me again if i want to make that choice?

Yes, i want to remain an offline account. Did you not see me make that choice? Why are you asking me again and making me do work closing boxes.

No, i dont want to use one drive. I am not thanking you for asking me the 10th time this year and making me work closing boxes.

And then there is the snapping to grid issue that is now in place instead of being able to put icons where ever you want.

Billions of bits of storage space available, yet the properties of item cant store position of the icon on a single page?

I tried gaming on linux before the holidays on a last gen business class second hand computer i bought fro ebay for 40 pounds. It does work. With nobara it worked right out of the box with nothing done on my end. I used an intel i5 3770s with a gtx 1060. I used my old hardware i keep aroudn in case my gpu dies.

I aplayed the 2013 Tomb Raider Reboot with no issues whatsoever and it was a cool experience.

Sure some games may not work unless there is a tweak involved.

Just to get away from windows i bought a whole new AM4 system when it is a dead end road.

I wanted to have 2 M2 slots for SSD's so i can now dual boot linux and windows on the same machine but have the OS's on separate drives. I dont want to dual boot on a single drive. It is better this was. If linux srews up then it will only affect that drive and not the windows drive as well.

I read that when using linux it is better to use AMD based hardware so AMD GPU cards and not nvidia. Drivers are the culprit it seems. Also linuz seems to run better on AMD CPU's.

It is better to have a GPU to use then nothing at all. SO i keep stuff and dont sell it. I sill have an AMD 6860 card.

Linux, brought to you by Microsoft ™
xBCxRangers 9. jan. kl. 11.58 
Aren't some of these gaming developers getting away from Linux due to anti cheat concerns?
rudds2003 9. jan. kl. 12.11 
Opprinnelig skrevet av ReBoot:
Pro tip: you should understand what things are instead of wishful thinking. From a technical standpoint, Linux isn't better. Not for General-purpose computers (Linux has some real advantages when it comes to appliances & servers).

For General-purpose computing, Linux has disadvantages, first & foremost abyssimal binary compatibility. It's needlessly hard to run Linux software on Linux (and the Idealists claiming the problem to be the rest of the world not doing it the Linux way can ♥♥♥♥ right off).

With that out of the way, there's literally nothing preventing you from isntallong Steam on any other Linux and use it's built-in Proton. You could go with Manjaro (which is technically related to SteamOS). Others recommend Ubuntu (or a derivate). Another Linux would be Pop_OS. You could also go with Bazzite.

You can also simply dock your Deck to your desk setup and use SteamOS on it. That one time my gaming battlestation died, I've used my Deck as my primary PC for a week or two. Works absolutely fine. Keyboard, mouse, my 2 monitors & Deck really is a working, fully-fledged PC you can do PC stuff on. Just try it, if you want to get a whiff of desktop Linux and got a Deck already, it really is by far the easiest way.

Oh cool! So I was thinking I could get a Steam Deck and play all or most of my Steam games through my monitor and have my keyboard and mouse work with it!

So this actually works? Good to know!
D. Flame 9. jan. kl. 12.11 
Opprinnelig skrevet av xBCxRangers:
Aren't some of these gaming developers getting away from Linux due to anti cheat concerns?

The ones being bribed by Microsoft are banning Linux and blaming cheating, but their games are flopping anyway. Meanwhile, games like Marvel Rival, which are doing great, are embracing Linux.
Dura_Ace 9. jan. kl. 12.29 
Opprinnelig skrevet av xBCxRangers:
Aren't some of these gaming developers getting away from Linux due to anti cheat concerns?
Money drives the markets.

The % jump to linux, of users last year, was staggering.

Many of us do not want to put up with MS and their BS anymore. Least of all Recall.

The entire german government aparatus moved to linux last year. They are saving billions on licensing and best of all, are not being spied upon by the USA.

I am sure that not only was Merkels phone tapped as we found out, but that also the computers of the german government were looked at as well. There is a NSA back door built into windows.

I will not buy a game from now on unless it runs in linux. Money drives change. Considering that games made for linux are already on steam the trend will continue and get better with people like me buying linux based games.

Sadly i might have to keep using windows for some games. I am a virtual pilot and our hardware does not work in linux as well, if at all. TrackIR cameras and peripherals will not work well, if at all.

So i wont be able to use the basic items needed for flight control. Catn fly a plane. But that is ok. If so then nothing but flying DCS will be done on the POS windows M2 SSD and on the main M2 SSD will be linux.
Lixire 9. jan. kl. 13.18 
Gaming on Linux has been improved by a long mile thanks to Valve's Proton that you can get a large number of games (including recent releases too) up and running on the OS

You can have issues if you use relatively older hardware trying to launch new AAA games (VKD3D is awful on GTX 10 series and older due to missing hardware features)
Or you try to play specific games that rely on an aggressive kernel level anti cheat

But overall, It is miles ahead compared to what it used to be 10 years ago.
If you aren't too happy with the state of Windows then give it a shot.
Speaking of your Windows license.. you actually do not have to input the key into the installer, just press "I don't have product key", Install Windows as usual and once you connect it to the internet then it will activate automatically as the licensing is tied to your HWID which is stored in Microsoft's servers.
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