Our only real solution to Windows 7/8 cancellation

[CEO OF XXX]

Hello, all users of Windows! This is my probably the final topic I myself will make on this matter of the blocking of Windows 7/8 users from being able to access Steam after the start of 2024.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A


Complaining on this discussion board will not change much and bickering with Windows 10 and 11 users definitely will not either.. we have to let our voices be heard by the only one who really matters in Valve.

That's right, we need to know what is Gabe's official stance on this announcement and matter. All the previous quotes, videos, and interviews I have seen from Gabe he seemed like a really down to earth and great guy and felt like he genuinely cared about the users of Steam, his customers and he knew how we feel and could relate to us unlike the majority of most CEOs of big companies.

Here's an email of Gabe, I don't know if he checks it or not or it may even be fake, but it's worth emailing about this very serious problem directly to him as well. So, please email him and voice your complaints on what's going on is very wrong. I know I will.

[e-mail]

For all we know Gabe doesn't even know about the existence of this announcement or he was lied to what it will be all about or falsely lead on to believe something different this announcement would have been. For all we know the person behind this announcement could have just told Gabe they are "unsupporting" Windows 7/8 and not completely blocking it.

That's the problem, we don't know what is going on, and the only stance and opinion that matters is not all the people who bash on us for using Windows 7 and 8, no. The only opinion that matters is Gabes opinion because this is his company.

I remember before Valve has made mistakes such as banning the game Hatred and then Gabe personally apologized and unbanned the game, so this gives me faith and I want to trust in Gabe.



So, please. Contact Steam Support just one time about this! If one of us tries it will just end up being ignored, but we need to unite if we actually want to be noticed by Gabe.

Contact Steam Support and ask what is Gabe's official stance on the announcement of Windows 7/8 is cancellation. If enough of us do this and consistently then they can't keep ignoring us and eventually Gabe will hear of this news and notice us.

We need to do this while the announcement is still fresh because if we take too long and don't unite then it's going to be too late and this announcement will be set in stone.


So, PLEASE fellow friends spread the word to your friends, fellow Windows 7 and 8 users, and anyone else you think would care as much as possible because if Gabe sees us as disposable wallets that can be tossed away at any time and not valued customers then I don't want to support a company like that and you probably shouldn't either.


Also, please don't reply to anyone who is hating on us or bashing us for using Windows 7/8 just ignore them or block them. All that matters is to share this message and contact Steam Support and get Gabe to notice us.. that's all that matters

God bless you all, and I really hope Gabe will notice us.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

Hello, all users of Windows! This is my probably the final topic I myself will make on this matter of the blocking of Windows 7/8 users from being able to access Steam after the start of 2024.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A


Complaining on this discussion board will not change much and bickering with Windows 10 and 11 users definitely will not either.. we have to let our voices be heard by the only one who really matters in Valve.

That's right, we need to know what is Gabe's official stance on this announcement and matter. All the previous quotes, videos, and interviews I have seen from Gabe he seemed like a really down to earth and great guy and felt like he genuinely cared about the users of Steam, his customers and he knew how we feel and could relate to us unlike the majority of most CEOs of big companies.

For all we know Gabe doesn't even know about the existence of this announcement or he was lied to what it will be all about or falsely lead on to believe something different this announcement would have been. For all we know the person behind this announcement could have just told Gabe they are "unsupporting" Windows 7/8 and not completely blocking it.

That's the problem, we don't know what is going on, and the only stance and opinion that matters is not all the people who bash on us for using Windows 7 and 8, no. The only opinion that matters is Gabes opinion because this is his company.

I remember before Valve has made mistakes such as banning the game Hatred and then Gabe personally apologized and unbanned the game, so this gives me faith and I want to trust in Gabe.



So, please. Contact Steam Support or find any way to contact Gabe, I don't know if he has an email or anything, but we need to find a way to contact him. If one of us tries it will just end up being ignored, but we need to unite if we actually want to be noticed by Gabe.

Contact Steam Support and ask what is Gabe's official stance on the announcement of Windows 7/8 is cancellation. If enough of us do this and consistently then they can't keep ignoring us and eventually Gabe will hear of this news and notice us.

We need to do this while the announcement is still fresh because if we take too long and don't unite then it's going to be too late and this announcement will be set in stone.


So, PLEASE fellow friends spread the word to your friends, fellow Windows 7 and 8 users, and anyone else you think would care as much as possible because if Gabe sees us as disposable wallets that can be tossed away at any time and not valued customers then I don't want to support a company like that and you probably shouldn't either.


Also, please don't reply to anyone who is hating on us or bashing us for using Windows 7/8 just ignore them or block them. All that matters is to share this message and contact Steam Support and get Gabe to notice us.. that's all that matters

God bless you all, and I really hope Gabe will notice us.

GabeN's official stance is what it is in the KB article you linked.

[CEO OF XXX]

@cSg|mc-Hotsauce
You don't know that. None of us know that.

And that's the last time I'm replying to anyone that says something like this and anyone else who sympathizes with my post please don't reply to people saying things like this or trying to antagonize us. It leads to nowhere.

Just block them at least that's what I'm going to do.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

@cSg|mc-Hotsauce
You don't know that. None of us know that.

And that's the last time I'm replying to anyone that says something like this and anyone else who sympathizes with my post please don't reply to people saying things like this or trying to antagonize us. It leads to nowhere.

Just block them at least that's what I'm going to do.

It's the official word from everyone at Valve hence, the official support KB article from Valve.

Just like the XP and Vista KB article in 2019...

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6E66-54EC-3EFC-283C

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

So, please. Contact Steam Support or find any way to contact Gabe, I don't know if he has an email or anything, but we need to find a way to contact him.

Gabe is not going to change the decision. And flooding Support with tickets asking for way to contact him is just going to cause users with more immediate problems to wait longer for Support to sift through your tickets that they can't answer.

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so your going to block users.... interesting....

[d3str0y3r]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

So, please. Contact Steam Support or find any way to contact Gabe, I don't know if he has an email or anything, but we need to find a way to contact him.

Gabe is not going to change the decision. And flooding Support with tickets asking for way to contact him is just going to cause users with more immediate problems to wait longer for Support to sift through your tickets that they can't answer.

On top of that spamming support can lead to you getting banned from contacting them ever again.

[CEO OF XXX]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

So, please. Contact Steam Support or find any way to contact Gabe, I don't know if he has an email or anything, but we need to find a way to contact him.

Gabe is not going to change the decision. And flooding Support with tickets asking for way to contact him is just going to cause users with more immediate problems to wait longer for Support to sift through your tickets that they can't answer.

If you don't complain nothing changes, hence why letting our voices be heard is important. And the only one that needs to hear it is that is important is Gabe.

And our problem is just as immediate of a problem is anybody else is, we are being barred from playing our games. That's an extremely important problem since the whole reason for Steam's existence is to play games.

I'm now going to have to politely block you as what we need is harmony and unity, there's no need for discourse and anyone who wants to keep bashing on us and treat our problem as if it's not important at all is not worth the time of a reply sorry.

[CEO OF XXX]

Originally posted by d3str0y3r:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Gabe is not going to change the decision. And flooding Support with tickets asking for way to contact him is just going to cause users with more immediate problems to wait longer for Support to sift through your tickets that they can't answer.

On top of that spamming support can lead to you getting banned from contacting them ever again.

This is not spam. It's a legitimate concern.

I don't know if you understand how important this is, millions of users of Steam unless they purchase a new PC or upgrade their OS (by force basically with our games hostage) will be blocked from accessing Steam and our games.

Just because it does not effect you doesn't mean it is not important.

[Chika Ogiue]

Gabe used to work for Microsoft, he knows all about depreciation of operating systems. He is not the sort of person who would be hoodwinked by an employee telling him they're "unsupporting" Windows 7/8 and not knowing what that would entail.

[CEO OF XXX]

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

Gabe used to work for Microsoft, he knows all about depreciation of operating systems. He is not the sort of person who would be hoodwinked by an employee telling him they're "unsupporting" Windows 7/8 and not knowing what that would entail.

That's why it is important for us to hear directly from him because all of his other interviews and quotes he did not do such anti-consumer things like this.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Gabe is not going to change the decision. And flooding Support with tickets asking for way to contact him is just going to cause users with more immediate problems to wait longer for Support to sift through your tickets that they can't answer.

If you don't complain nothing changes, hence why letting our voices be heard is important. And the only one that needs to hear it is that is important is Gabe.

Complaining is one thing. Asking users to flood Support with tickets for a demand that they can't address is another. The former is understandable, the latter is just vindictive and selfish.

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

And our problem is just as immediate of a problem is anybody else is,

Considering the problem isn't going into effect until 9-months from now, it is certainly not as immediate as someone who needs a refund on a purchase, or help recovering their account now.

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

I'm now going to have to politely block you as what we need is harmony and unity, there's no need for discourse and anyone who wants to keep bashing on us and treat our problem as if it's not important at all is not worth the time of a reply sorry.

Your choice to block whomever you want. Just keep in mind I never said anything about Windows 7/8 support being dropped. I merely warned you that your desire to pester Support for a different response isn't going to net you a different decision.

[d3str0y3r]

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

Originally posted by d3str0y3r:

On top of that spamming support can lead to you getting banned from contacting them ever again.

This is not spam. It's a legitimate concern.

And support can not do anything about it. They will just close the ticket and direct you to the forums.

They will not forward your message to Gabe and they can not give you his personal contact info.

All it will do is slow support down for people that they can help.

Same posts were made for Windows XP and Vista and support was still dropped on the day they announced.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

SteamOS/Linux.

He said that Steam for Linux gives people freedom to innovate on an alternate operating system. “It’s a get-out-of-jail free pass for our industry if we need it,” he said. We’ll assume that he’s referring to Windows there. It’s no secret that Newell is not a big fan of Windows 8.

https://www.geekwire.com/2013/valve-cofounder-gabe-newell-linux-getoutofjail-free-pass-industry/

Gabe Newell: "Linux and open source are the future of gaming"

https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-linux-and-open-source-are-the-future-of-gaming/

On Valve’s interest in Linux

“The big problem that is holding back Linux is games. People don’t realize how critical games are in driving consumer purchasing behavior.

“We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It’s a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we’ll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that’s true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality.

https://allthingsd.com/20120725/valves-gabe-newell-on-the-future-of-games-wearable-computers-windows-8-and-more/

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

That's why it is important for us to hear directly from him because all of his other interviews and quotes he did not do such anti-consumer things like this.

I live in a region with a very long history of Valve doing anti-consumer things. Including:

Leaving games in a pre-release state for months after their international and (in some cases) local release dates.

Pushing back release dates (on Steam only) by several months literally 5 minutes before they should have unlocked. And in some cases, even the publisher didn't know this had happened.

Removing games from the region on release and then not unlocking those games for people who had purchased them while there were still being sold.

Falsely advertising the availability of titles (and this still happens today).

But none of this compares to the depreciation of an operating system. That is beyond Valve's control. And Valve have informed you how you can retain access. Trust me, that's them being a lot more consumer friendly than they ever were with the examples I listed. Back on Valve's old forums--back when Valve staff still publicly posted--I had a reputation within Valve of being highly critical of them because of how my region was treated.

The difference here is that I recognise that dropping support for operating systems that even the developer no longer supports is a necessity of the age. It's not something Valve have reasonable control over and they must consider how best to protect themselves and the countless Steam users who are not very good at keeping their accounts under their own control. Supporting an OS that is no longer getting security updates is a disaster waiting to happen.

[CEO OF XXX]

Originally posted by d3str0y3r:

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

This is not spam. It's a legitimate concern.

And support can not do anything about it. They will just close the ticket and direct you to the forums.

They will not forward your message to Gabe and they can not give you his personal contact info.

All it will do is slow support down for people that they can help.

Same posts were made for Windows XP and Vista and support was still dropped on the day they announced.

Of course if people don't unite then nothing will happen.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Like I sad again, our problem is a real problem, if you were going to get blocked from accessing your games you would think so too.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

If you don't complain nothing changes, hence why letting our voices be heard is important. And the only one that needs to hear it is that is important is Gabe.

Complaining is one thing. Asking users to flood Support with tickets for a demand that they can't address is another. The former is understandable, the latter is just vindictive and selfish.

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

And our problem is just as immediate of a problem is anybody else is,

Considering the problem isn't going into effect until 9-months from now, it is certainly not as immediate as someone who needs a refund on a purchase, or help recovering their account now.

Originally posted by #SaveWindows7&8Users:

I'm now going to have to politely block you as what we need is harmony and unity, there's no need for discourse and anyone who wants to keep bashing on us and treat our problem as if it's not important at all is not worth the time of a reply sorry.

Your choice to block whomever you want. Just keep in mind I never said anything about Windows 7/8 support being dropped. I merely warned you that your desire to pester Support for a different response isn't going to net you a different decision.

Listen dude, millions of users are going to lose access to our games this is a PROBLEM and Steam Support is for problems. I know Valve wants to get rid of us but at the moment we are still there customers for 1 year so our problems are just as important as other people is problems.

They are not going to change anything if we wait for 9 months, it takes time and things to change these decision the only chance at changing anything is 1-2 month period of the announcement.

And yes I block people who keep ganging up on me to antagonize me and say how wrong I am for being frustrated I will be blocked from accessing all my steam games I paid money for and be unable to play with my friends and family. And I'm sure other windows 7 and 8 users feel the same too.

And it's not pestering, this is a legitimate PROBLEM stop trivializing our problem you're not the one losing access to your games millions of others are...