Windows 7 Support Ending - Refunding my Entire Library?

[InfernusMatrix]

So let me get this straight, my games that run fine on Windows 7 I can no longer access past a certain point? If this is the case I will be talking to my bank and refunding my entire games library. I have zero interest in upgrading my hardware or Operating system.

Does this not violate consumer or anti-trust laws?

When I started using Steam I never agreed for them to control what hardware and operating system I can use, especially considering all of the games I play support Windows 7.

[xBCxRangers]

Nguyên văn bởi SlowMango:

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

xBCxRangers made a fair point.

Valve is not to blame too much, because they made editors and gamers both happy by getting rid of piracy.

But stopping Win7 support before other launchers was indeed premature considering how much Win7 users did for Valve.

Of which, just under 99% are now Win10 users.

Just like when they dropped XP, just under 99% of those users who 'did so much for Valve' we're on Win7.

You act like they owe barely 1% of users something because they are refusing to upgrade. They don't.

They are getting treated the same as everyone else when XP was dropped. They didn't get anything special either.

1% of what? 1% of 125 million. That's 1.25 million players. Not to mention, much less on XP that are on Win 7, where only a couple hundred thousand may have been affected.

We also have to keep in mind, those are just the one who took the survey. The number can in fact be much higher.

Anyhow, as was mentioned, other companies seemed to prepare. Steam did not. And my view sincerely is, this is going to be punted. So, no "Mr Newell" requests on this topic, being i just do not believe the date atp. An likely, Mr Newell does not either.

[MonkehMaster]

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Nguyên văn bởi SlowMango:

Of which, just under 99% are now Win10 users.

Just like when they dropped XP, just under 99% of those users who 'did so much for Valve' we're on Win7.

You act like they owe barely 1% of users something because they are refusing to upgrade. They don't.

They are getting treated the same as everyone else when XP was dropped. They didn't get anything special either.

Weren't you a Win7 user before?

Under what OS did Valve thrived?

ya, i think they forgot what OS's they were using and what other people were using before they got forced on to win 10 by microsoft... or the ones who moved over on their own later down the line.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Nguyên văn bởi SlowMango:

Of which, just under 99% are now Win10 users.

Just like when they dropped XP, just under 99% of those users who 'did so much for Valve' we're on Win7.

You act like they owe barely 1% of users something because they are refusing to upgrade. They don't.

They are getting treated the same as everyone else when XP was dropped. They didn't get anything special either.

Weren't you a Win7 user before?

Under what OS did Valve thrived?

I was once a Windows 3.0 user, doesn't mean they have to support it.

And they thrived during Windows 98 & Windows Xp that before 7 even existed, but there no contracts, or agreement they must support any OS for life.

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Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Weren't you a Win7 user before?

Under what OS did Valve thrived?

I was once a Windows 3.0 user, doesn't mean they have to support it.

And they thrived during Windows 98 & Windows Xp that before 7 even existed, but there no contracts, or agreement they must support any OS for life.

Thriving is not about getting from hundreds to thousands users. Thriving is about thousands to dozens of millions users (ten dozens to be a bit more accurate). You know it.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

I was once a Windows 3.0 user, doesn't mean they have to support it.

And they thrived during Windows 98 & Windows Xp that before 7 even existed, but there no contracts, or agreement they must support any OS for life.

Thriving is not about getting from hundreds to thousands users. Thriving is about thousands to dozens of millions users (ten dozens to be a bit more accurate). You know it.

So moving the goal post got it, then it's dozens of millions to hundards of millions, that means windows 10 basically.

[Tito Shivan]

Nguyên văn bởi MonkehMaster:

no one was stopping anyone from using a leaded fuel car and all it took was a change in timing and a catalytic converter (catalytic converters were made and added due to regulations) to use unleaded fuel.

So, upgrades were required.

Nguyên văn bởi MonkehMaster:

and btw, the US phased out leaded gas in 1996...

Some of us were already old back then.

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Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Thriving is not about getting from hundreds to thousands users. Thriving is about thousands to dozens of millions users (ten dozens to be a bit more accurate). You know it.

So moving the goal post got it, then it's dozens of millions to hundards of millions, that means windows 10 basically. :yaranaika:

Not moving the goal post: I just recall that respecting the people who contributed to their wealth, may bring Valve some prestige and trust, instead of being rightfully blamed.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

So moving the goal post got it, then it's dozens of millions to hundards of millions, that means windows 10 basically.

Not moving the goal post: I just recall that respecting the people who contributed to their wealth, may bring Valve some prestige and trust, instead of being rightfully blamed.

Yeah that was during 98 ~ Xp time.

Steam drop OS for 98 & ME back in 2007, that 2 years before Windows 7 existed.

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Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Not moving the goal post: I just recall that respecting the people who contributed to their wealth, may bring Valve some prestige and trust, instead of being rightfully blamed.

Yeah that was during 98 ~ Xp time.

Steam drop OS for 98 & ME back in 2007, that 2 years before Windows 7 existed.

What about dozens of millions of users then? Not 10 000 under win 98/Me, nor 500 000 under XP... 120 000 000 under Win7. You are writing about moving goal post?

Under what OS did Valve thrive?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Nguyên văn bởi SlowMango:

Of which, just under 99% are now Win10 users.

Just like when they dropped XP, just under 99% of those users who 'did so much for Valve' we're on Win7.

You act like they owe barely 1% of users something because they are refusing to upgrade. They don't.

They are getting treated the same as everyone else when XP was dropped. They didn't get anything special either.

Weren't you a Win7 user before?

Under what OS did Valve thrive?

I was.

It doesn't matter when they 'thrived'. Like I said, and like their survey shows, just under 99% of those users are now on Win10.

It also isn't the OS that made them thrive, it's dishonest to even imply it was.

[Minuit]

Nguyên văn bởi SlowMango:

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Weren't you a Win7 user before?

Under what OS did Valve thrive?

I was.

It doesn't matter when they 'thrived'. Like I said, and like their survey shows, just under 99% of those users are now on Win10.

It also isn't the OS that made them thrive, it's dishonest to even imply it was.

One human being, lonely, isolated, poor, ugly and dumb worth more than $ billions imho. That's not your point of view, maybe.. But millions of those beings who bought games trusting Valve worth nothing either?

[Wolfie]

Get with the times.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Yeah that was during 98 ~ Xp time.

Steam drop OS for 98 & ME back in 2007, that 2 years before Windows 7 existed.

What about dozens of millions of users then? Not 10 000 under win 98/Me, nor 500 000 under XP... 120 000 000 under Win7. You are writing about moving goal post?

Under what OS did Valve thrive?

Naw just you moving the goal post, also 120 000 000 isn't under win7 they're under win10, hence win 7 only 1% that 1.2M oof.

If you want to talk about which OS they been making most from, then that be under windows 10 hence the most people are using that over window 7 by a long shot. But hey you do you.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Nguyên văn bởi Minuit:

Nguyên văn bởi SlowMango:

I was.

It doesn't matter when they 'thrived'. Like I said, and like their survey shows, just under 99% of those users are now on Win10.

It also isn't the OS that made them thrive, it's dishonest to even imply it was.

One human being, lonely, isolated, poor, ugly and dumb worth more than billions imho. That's not your point of view, maybe.. But millions of those beings who bought games trusting Valve worth nothing either?

You're trying to turn this into something it isn't.

Valve is a business. While they will tend to adjust their practices based around what is better for gaming(banning NFT games, backtracking paid mods, opening up the store submission process), they are still a business.

[bob]

Nguyên văn bởi InfernusMatrix:

So let me get this straight, my games that run fine on Windows 7 I can no longer access past a certain point? If this is the case I will be talking to my bank and refunding my entire games library. I have zero interest in upgrading my hardware or Operating system.

Does this not violate consumer or anti-trust laws?

When I started using Steam I never agreed for them to control what hardware and operating system I can use, especially considering all of the games I play support Windows 7.

Or you could upgrade to Windows 10 or 11