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Windows 7 Support Ending - Refunding my Entire Library?
So let me get this straight, my games that run fine on Windows 7 I can no longer access past a certain point? If this is the case I will be talking to my bank and refunding my entire games library. I have zero interest in upgrading my hardware or Operating system.

Does this not violate consumer or anti-trust laws?

When I started using Steam I never agreed for them to control what hardware and operating system I can use, especially considering all of the games I play support Windows 7.
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MonkehMaster の投稿を引用:
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There is one user saying he's done it with two computers, and one is from 2007, which was pre-Windows 7. I was truly just being pedantic, it's kind of irrelevant to the discussion, except the part about having enough money to upgrade.

I don't actually disagree with that person's point, it was just inaccurate.

what was inaccurate? i literally downloaded win 11 pro 64bit from microsoft and installed it on both mentioned laptops, no key and the OS runs fine, the key only stops you from some cosmetic stuff like background and some settings.

that being said, win 7 keys arent hard to come by, heck i got disks and computers laying around with legit keys on all of them...

Oh, I see, without a key. Although I really thought the upgrade program wouldn't even run on Vista, but it admittedly has been years since I looked into it.
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what was inaccurate? i literally downloaded win 11 pro 64bit from microsoft and installed it on both mentioned laptops, no key and the OS runs fine, the key only stops you from some cosmetic stuff like background and some settings.

that being said, win 7 keys arent hard to come by, heck i got disks and computers laying around with legit keys on all of them...

Oh, I see, without a key. Although I really thought the upgrade program wouldn't even run on Vista, but it admittedly has been years since I looked into it.

"upgrades" ie... keeping settings, programs, data.... runs from the installer (disk/usb), not the currently installed OS), or in other cases some may do fresh installs, which is what i did on those laptops, as i already wiped their drives years ago and had them running kali linux.

well, you would likely run a disk/usb install to go to win 10, then while running in win 10 you can run an upgrade to win 11, as win 10 can mount iso's on its own, OS's before them needed software.
最近の変更はMonkehMasterが行いました; 2023年9月5日 10時56分
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I intend to download them before the 118 days is up/Windows 7 support ends.

Edit: If there are any playable on this PC that aren't already downloaded. Maybe Portal.

Then i think it might be possible, but there is no guarantee

Well, I suppose if my Win 7 laptop runs for 10 more years it wouldn't work the whole time but by that point I will have upgraded to Windows 10 or switched to Linux so it doesn't matter. (That's a big if). I'm thinking it'll work for the next three or four years though.
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Oh, I see, without a key. Although I really thought the upgrade program wouldn't even run on Vista, but it admittedly has been years since I looked into it.

"upgrades" ie... keeping settings, programs, data.... runs from the installer (disk/usb), or in other cases some may do fresh installs, which is what i did on those laptops, as i already wiped their drives years ago and had them running kali linux.

Gotcha. It's a little disingenuous to imply that people truly on a strapped budget could emulate all the steps you took, but I honestly don't care enough about the argument to continue after this point.
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"upgrades" ie... keeping settings, programs, data.... runs from the installer (disk/usb), or in other cases some may do fresh installs, which is what i did on those laptops, as i already wiped their drives years ago and had them running kali linux.

Gotcha. It's a little disingenuous to imply that people truly on a strapped budget could emulate all the steps you took, but I honestly don't care enough about the argument to continue after this point.

what are they spending money on? or are your talking about "time" being money?

cause its all free and easy to do.
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Gotcha. It's a little disingenuous to imply that people truly on a strapped budget could emulate all the steps you took, but I honestly don't care enough about the argument to continue after this point.

what are they spending money on? or are your talking about "time" being money?

cause its all free and easy to do.
tbf some people still running Windows 7, like my 71 year-old mother, that would not be easy to do. But since those people also probably don't use Steam, they are irrelevant. I do not have the energy to try to dredge up whatever point was being made about income, especially since I have no horse in this race.
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MonkehMaster の投稿を引用:
rubytook の投稿を引用:

Gotcha. It's a little disingenuous to imply that people truly on a strapped budget could emulate all the steps you took, but I honestly don't care enough about the argument to continue after this point.

what are they spending money on? or are your talking about "time" being money?

cause its all free and easy to do.

As I said too long ago now, I just saw the notice about support ending because I don't use my Windows 7 laptop much. I thought that before becoming indignant I would check and see if I couldn't just run the client offline on this computer. That's what I want to know, and kudos to you for keeping old machines going, but I'd like to get back to that point. Do you know?
最近の変更はrubytookが行いました; 2023年9月5日 11時14分
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what are they spending money on? or are your talking about "time" being money?

cause its all free and easy to do.
tbf some people still running Windows 7, like my 71 year-old mother, that would not be easy to do. But since those people also probably don't use Steam, they are irrelevant. I do not have the energy to try to dredge up whatever point was being made about income, especially since I have no horse in this race.

download and hardware:

windows (version) downloaded from microsoft.
rufus (the version that runs on win 7 or one that will run on w/e OS you are using).
copy paste a command into notepad and save as .bat file.
8GB usb stick

run rufus and turn the iso into a bootable on usb drive.

disconnect internet, restart pc, get to boot menu which ever way your pc does it, run the usb, choose upgrade and keep settings/programs/data.

first installer screen pops up, hit a key combo (shift - f10) to run cmd, type regedit and hit enter.

browse your pc files, run the batch file for bypass, exit back into the installer screen (ie.. close the windows that popped up)....

set language, skip internet setup if it asks and boom, windows is installing with no hardware requirements, no microsoft account nonsense and it was free, no key needed and at best work wise, you may need to snag a couple missing drivers, either yourself or from something like driver booster.

if you need a key, use a legit win 7/8/8.1 key on a win 10 install (same as above), then either take that key and fresh install win 11, or upgrade from boot or from inside win 10 (either way works) and now you are running a legit win 11 installation.

again, all free... no money spent, unless you dont happen to have a usb stick.
最近の変更はMonkehMasterが行いました; 2023年9月5日 11時36分
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tbf some people still running Windows 7, like my 71 year-old mother, that would not be easy to do. But since those people also probably don't use Steam, they are irrelevant. I do not have the energy to try to dredge up whatever point was being made about income, especially since I have no horse in this race.

download and hardware:

windows (version) downloaded from microsoft.
rufus (the version that runs on win 7 or one that will run on w/e OS you are using).
copy paste a command into notepad and save as .bat file.
8GB usb stick

run rufus and turn the iso into a bootable on usb drive.

disconnect internet, restart pc, get to boot menu which ever way your pc does it, run the usb, choose upgrade and keep settings/programs/data.

first installer screen pops up, hit a key combo (shift - f10) to run cmd, type regedit and hit enter.

browse your pc files, run the batch file for bypass, exit back into the installer screen (ie.. close the windows that popped up)....

set language, skip internet setup if it asks and boom, windows is installing with no hardware requirements, no microsoft account nonsense and it was free, no key needed and at best work wise, you may need to snag a couple missing drivers, either yourself or with a program like driver booster.

if you need a key, use a legit win 7/8/8.1 key on a win 10 install (same as above), then either take that key and fresh install win 11, or upgrade from boot or from inside win 10 (either way works) and now you are running a legit win 11 installation.

again, all free... no money spent, unless you dont happen to have a usb stick.

I already said that I'm not going to find whatever argument was being made so yes, that all is true and doable. No argument on anything said here from me!
rubytook の投稿を引用:
MonkehMaster の投稿を引用:

download and hardware:

windows (version) downloaded from microsoft.
rufus (the version that runs on win 7 or one that will run on w/e OS you are using).
copy paste a command into notepad and save as .bat file.
8GB usb stick

run rufus and turn the iso into a bootable on usb drive.

disconnect internet, restart pc, get to boot menu which ever way your pc does it, run the usb, choose upgrade and keep settings/programs/data.

first installer screen pops up, hit a key combo (shift - f10) to run cmd, type regedit and hit enter.

browse your pc files, run the batch file for bypass, exit back into the installer screen (ie.. close the windows that popped up)....

set language, skip internet setup if it asks and boom, windows is installing with no hardware requirements, no microsoft account nonsense and it was free, no key needed and at best work wise, you may need to snag a couple missing drivers, either yourself or with a program like driver booster.

if you need a key, use a legit win 7/8/8.1 key on a win 10 install (same as above), then either take that key and fresh install win 11, or upgrade from boot or from inside win 10 (either way works) and now you are running a legit win 11 installation.

again, all free... no money spent, unless you dont happen to have a usb stick.

I already said that I'm not going to find whatever argument was being made so yes, that all is true and doable. No argument on anything said here from me!
Hello

Well done @monkhmaster

Also , before the big jump do not forget to save all you important documents from your main hdd like ;
photos,textes, browser links and associated password,etc.

And do not forget if your comp is suporting the new os by checking minimum system requierement

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-system-requirements-6d4e9a79-66bf-7950-467c-795cf0386715
最近の変更はbidullessが行いました; 2023年9月5日 11時47分
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I already said that I'm not going to find whatever argument was being made so yes, that all is true and doable. No argument on anything said here from me!
Hello

Well done @monkhmaster

Also , before the big jump do not forget to save all you important documents from your main hdd like ;
photos,textes, browser links and associated password,etc.

And do not forget if your comp is suporting the new os by checking minimum system requierement

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-system-requirements-6d4e9a79-66bf-7950-467c-795cf0386715

meh, dont need to worry about requirements, when you can bypass them.
Welp, I derailed the conversation, argued about something I don't care about, and didn't get an answer to my question. And it's not even 3 in the afternoon . . . whatever else could I hope to accomplish today with all that already? Might as well just go to bed and wait for tomorrow.
MonkehMaster の投稿を引用:
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Hello

Well done @monkhmaster

Also , before the big jump do not forget to save all you important documents from your main hdd like ;
photos,textes, browser links and associated password,etc.

And do not forget if your comp is suporting the new os by checking minimum system requierement

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-system-requirements-6d4e9a79-66bf-7950-467c-795cf0386715

meh, dont need to worry about requirements, when you can bypass them.
Hello

At leat if your cpu is supported xd
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-10-22h2-supported-intel-processors
最近の変更はbidullessが行いました; 2023年9月5日 11時59分
rubytook の投稿を引用:
Welp, I derailed the conversation, argued about something I don't care about, and didn't get an answer to my question. And it's not even 3 in the afternoon . . . whatever else could I hope to accomplish today with all that already? Might as well just go to bed and wait for tomorrow.

check steam forums, or google?

the answer isnt a simple yes, just saying.
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