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Windows 7 Support Ending - Refunding my Entire Library?
So let me get this straight, my games that run fine on Windows 7 I can no longer access past a certain point? If this is the case I will be talking to my bank and refunding my entire games library. I have zero interest in upgrading my hardware or Operating system.

Does this not violate consumer or anti-trust laws?

When I started using Steam I never agreed for them to control what hardware and operating system I can use, especially considering all of the games I play support Windows 7.
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C²C^Guyver |NZB| 1 SEP 2023 a las 3:54 p. m. 
Which, if you think about it is no different than in 2003. If you wanted to play CS 1.6, you had to install Steam.
jansen 1 SEP 2023 a las 4:03 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Which, if you think about it is no different than in 2003. If you wanted to play CS 1.6, you had to install Steam.
You cant really compare software to OS, people wouldnt really have a problem to install/update new software to keep the access, but to drop OS and force even specific versions is beyond ridiculous
impetus_maximus 1 SEP 2023 a las 5:40 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por jansen 詹森:
Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Which, if you think about it is no different than in 2003. If you wanted to play CS 1.6, you had to install Steam.
You cant really compare software to OS, people wouldnt really have a problem to install/update new software to keep the access, but to drop OS and force even specific versions is beyond ridiculous
amen :steamthumbsup:
MonkehMaster 1 SEP 2023 a las 5:40 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por jansen 詹森:
Publicado originalmente por Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Upgrade OS or Switch to Linux, what the problem?
problem is disgusting forcing behaviour to things that previously worked, CS2 worked fine on windows 10 2019 LTSC (a perfectly fine up-to-date corporate OS), but then when they released the overpass map redesign it suddenly stopped working, a complete joke, you might not see a problem in this and like to bend over, but it will only get worse down the line, and no thanks I wont upgrade I will rather boycott such people/companies, thanks

has zero to do with steam, the game devs likely messed something up....

everything that runs in win 10 runs in win 11 as they are both technically the same, also majority of win 7 programs and drivers work under both 10/11 as well.

that being said, win 10 will likely have support from steam a few years after microsoft drops support, so i dont know where you came up with that story you made up.

all of its free, you can bypass any BS microsoft restrictions and disable or remove all their nonsense programs, ads and telemetry.
Última edición por MonkehMaster; 1 SEP 2023 a las 5:41 p. m.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 1 SEP 2023 a las 6:00 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por jansen 詹森:
Publicado originalmente por Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Upgrade OS or Switch to Linux, what the problem?
problem is disgusting forcing behaviour to things that previously worked, CS2 worked fine on windows 10 2019 LTSC (a perfectly fine up-to-date corporate OS), but then when they released the overpass map redesign it suddenly stopped working, a complete joke, you might not see a problem in this and like to bend over, but it will only get worse down the line, and no thanks I wont upgrade I will rather boycott such people/companies, thanks
Did you not verify game files? Why not bug report it?

AFAIK it works for Windows 10, but if it just the enterprise having issue, then go report the bug.
Piston Smashed™ 1 SEP 2023 a las 7:52 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por jansen 詹森:
Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Which, if you think about it is no different than in 2003. If you wanted to play CS 1.6, you had to install Steam.
You cant really compare software to OS, people wouldnt really have a problem to install/update new software to keep the access, but to drop OS and force even specific versions is beyond ridiculous

Actually C²C^Guyver |NZB| has a point, you think the fuss about Windows 7 is something you should have seen the stance again Steam and CS1.6. People didn't want to use Steam they didn't want to play CS1.6, they wanted to stay on CS1.5 which was perfect in a lot of peoples eyes and yes it was a very good version of CS.

However, CS1.5 was a mod for Half Life and Valve was taking CS (now a standalone game in Steam) forward with allowing for easy installs and updates which lets be honest was an absolute ♥♥♥♥ show before Steam but people didn't care they wanted to stay on CS1.5. A lot of people didn't move over to CS1.6 for many many years because they were adamant that they were not going to use Steam and CS1.6 but eventually they moved over and then they realised that they were scared for nothing.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 1 SEP 2023 a las 7:55 p. m. 
Counter-Strike was a mod for HL, period. It didn't start at any particular version. Obviously, the first version was 1.0
Piston Smashed™ 1 SEP 2023 a las 8:33 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Counter-Strike was a mod for HL, period. It didn't start at any particular version. Obviously, the first version was 1.0

Up to CS1.5 it was still classed as a mod as you still required the mods to install the game along with Half Life and it's updates. With CS 1.6 you didn't need any mods or Half Life any more. Valve started to sell the game as a standalone game with Steam which it still does today.

But no matter the versions of Counter-Strike, what I was trying to explain was that you were right about CS1.6 and Steam and how people didn't want to make the change and that you could compare software to OS, especially as the uproar was much bigger than this Windows 7 debate.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| 1 SEP 2023 a las 9:25 p. m. 
It really doesn't matter what is said anymore. They are making up their own narrative as they go along. They aren't going to realize that everything that they have been told is correct, until the update actually happens.
Blackpot 2 SEP 2023 a las 12:49 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por bidulless:
Publicado originalmente por Blackpot:

You trying to bagatelize this important discussion. The fact that people acts like zombies when sometthing new comes out is at least worrisome. Happened to Win 11. People had no idea what is it, but they jumped into it. Sheep mentality.
Hello

Agree with you and i was/am a good exemple of that with my library of 4k games.

Our behaviour is often completly irrational. just check what happened during pandemy where people rushed on toilet paper or each time apple was pushing a new iphone ,all the people making queue at stores.
And nearer us, like travelling by plane just get the same level as before pandemy and that despite all deasasters that happened around the world like mega fires in canada, dryness in italy , grece and panama,etc ....
Or just what happen here in many thread. We need to think a bit different imo because no one else will do that for us.
#sleepers-wake-up

I agree, truth is painful for people. Irrational behaviour is especially true for my nation. People fell easily for all propaganda, and they are getting robbed, the quality of life fell, the economy in ruins, but people no longe cares, they are no longer citizens just consumer zombies.
bidulless 2 SEP 2023 a las 12:56 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Blackpot:
Publicado originalmente por bidulless:
Hello

Agree with you and i was/am a good exemple of that with my library of 4k games.

Our behaviour is often completly irrational. just check what happened during pandemy where people rushed on toilet paper or each time apple was pushing a new iphone ,all the people making queue at stores.
And nearer us, like travelling by plane just get the same level as before pandemy and that despite all deasasters that happened around the world like mega fires in canada, dryness in italy , grece and panama,etc ....
Or just what happen here in many thread. We need to think a bit different imo because no one else will do that for us.
#sleepers-wake-up

I agree, truth is painful for people. Irrational behaviour is especially true for my nation. People fell easily for all propaganda, and they are getting robbed, the quality of life fell, the economy in ruins, but people no longe cares, they are no longer citizens just consumer zombies.
Hello

What do you think i was with 4k games, don't you think it's stupid ?
And we are all, more of less,some consumer zombies, because it's the only thing that make our society working ...
Última edición por bidulless; 2 SEP 2023 a las 1:01 a. m.
Pierce Dalton 2 SEP 2023 a las 1:22 a. m. 
7k replies? How come this wasn't locked yet? :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:
Blackpot 2 SEP 2023 a las 1:47 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por bidulless:
Publicado originalmente por Blackpot:

I agree, truth is painful for people. Irrational behaviour is especially true for my nation. People fell easily for all propaganda, and they are getting robbed, the quality of life fell, the economy in ruins, but people no longe cares, they are no longer citizens just consumer zombies.
Hello

What do you think i was with 4k games, don't you think it's stupid ?
And we are all, more of less,some consumer zombies, because it's the only thing that make our society working ...

Ah, i do not think it is stupid to have a hobby like gaming, consumer idiotism means you have to buy things you don't need. Clever phones are a good examle. Or buying a huge pickup even of you are not into agriculturals or buying SUVs because you are a bad driver and you dont want to be the one to die.
Mr White 2 SEP 2023 a las 6:44 a. m. 
A lot of games work on Windows 11. Some don't even with compatibility mode. Mostly because of the DRM. Which has not been updated or removed.
xtractor 2 SEP 2023 a las 7:04 a. m. 
Whats the logic? : you will be able to log on STEAM with the Steam app on your Cell but Can't with your Win7 PC ..so let me log with my cell and play my games on my win7 PC:lunar2020thinkingtiger:
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