Windows 7 Support Ending - Refunding my Entire Library?

[InfernusMatrix]

So let me get this straight, my games that run fine on Windows 7 I can no longer access past a certain point? If this is the case I will be talking to my bank and refunding my entire games library. I have zero interest in upgrading my hardware or Operating system.

Does this not violate consumer or anti-trust laws?

When I started using Steam I never agreed for them to control what hardware and operating system I can use, especially considering all of the games I play support Windows 7.

[Jamebonds1]

When steam come in, video games became more general and secured against pirates.

[Vanythe]

The point is that you can no longer run steam and download *your* games on a perfectly fine OS that still works like it did for all these years, just because it is Old.

Let me repeat, NOTHING is wrong with it, it is just OLD.

If you agree that anyone should lose access to the games they rightfully own, because they use old OS/Hardware, then please do the following steps to confirm your entry into the "Always NEW Club!" by doing these three easy steps!
- Ditch your phone if it's not running the latest OS version.
- Get rid of your car if it's not a 2023 model.
- Move out of your apartment/house if it hasn't been built in 2023.

Remember kids, new is always the best! Sustainability, health of the planet and preservation of old things will get you kicked out in no time! Tell your friends!

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

perfectly fine would be a supported OS...

thoughts and prayers

[Komarimaru]

Автор сообщения: Vanythe

The point is that you can no longer run steam and download *your* games on a perfectly fine OS that still works like it did for all these years, just because it is Old.

Let me repeat, NOTHING is wrong with it, it is just OLD.

If you agree that anyone should lose access to the games they rightfully own, because they use old OS/Hardware, then please do the following steps to confirm your entry into the "Always NEW Club!" by doing these three easy steps!
- Ditch your phone if it's not running the latest OS version.
- Get rid of your car if it's not a 2023 model.
- Move out of your apartment/house if it hasn't been built in 2023.

Remember kids, new is always the best! Sustainability, health of the planet and preservation of old things will get you kicked out in no time! Tell your friends!

It's more than just old.
It's an insecure system for transactions.
It's too insecure to be trusted on an online platform.
It does not support the security certificates needed these days.
It doesn't even support modern GPU's, CPU's, Memory, Motherboards, etc etc
It couldn't even keep up with technology of the time, like USB 3.0, yet Linux could.

It also has vulnerabilities that are so bad, if someone got your IP address, they could easily bypass any firewall you own or use, take control of the Group Policy Editor of all things remotely, allowing anyone full system control from there with the Windows 7 user being none the wiser.

And these vulnerabilities can't even be fixed with 0patch that people are foolishly relying on.

Remember, that in the technology world, you're over a century behind.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

When steam come in, video games became more general and secured against pirates.

By Steam's own admission, their DRM is to prevent "casual piracy". It is not to prevent anything more than that.

Their DRM alone is very easily bypassed. The only way they affected piracy is through convenience and ease of access.

[Vanythe]

Автор сообщения: Komarimaru

Автор сообщения: Vanythe

The point is that you can no longer run steam and download *your* games on a perfectly fine OS that still works like it did for all these years, just because it is Old.

Let me repeat, NOTHING is wrong with it, it is just OLD.

If you agree that anyone should lose access to the games they rightfully own, because they use old OS/Hardware, then please do the following steps to confirm your entry into the "Always NEW Club!" by doing these three easy steps!
- Ditch your phone if it's not running the latest OS version.
- Get rid of your car if it's not a 2023 model.
- Move out of your apartment/house if it hasn't been built in 2023.

Remember kids, new is always the best! Sustainability, health of the planet and preservation of old things will get you kicked out in no time! Tell your friends!

It's more than just old.
It's an insecure system for transactions.
It's too insecure to be trusted on an online platform.
It does not support the security certificates needed these days.
It doesn't even support modern GPU's, CPU's, Memory, Motherboards, etc etc
It couldn't even keep up with technology of the time, like USB 3.0, yet Linux could.

It also has vulnerabilities that are so bad, if someone got your IP address, they could easily bypass any firewall you own or use, take control of the Group Policy Editor of all things remotely, allowing anyone full system control from there with the Windows 7 user being none the wiser.

And these vulnerabilities can't even be fixed with 0patch that people are foolishly relying on.

Remember, that in the technology world, you're over a century behind.

Exactly, so you should get rid of your phone if its not running latest everything, because security! See, I care about it too! Same goes with your car! Your 1 year or more older car has increased chances to crash, so getting a new one should be a top priority! Get rid of that old junker asap! Your apartment wasn't built in 2023? Was it PERHAPS built in previous century? Think about YOUR security! It COULD collapse sooner than an apartment built in 2023! You should call the demo-squad immediately to deal with it, even before you buy a brand new 2023 apartment/house!

Jokes aside, your reasons are invalid. Security is up to the individual using the computer rather than the OS itself. If you are doing sketchy stuff, no amount of security will help you online, other than LAN cable being unplugged. It does not matter what it supports and what it doesnt, thats the user's problem. If the user wants to use it like they have for the past years, they should be able to, without people like you trying to take their games away because of their security, which lets be honest, you and everyone else here don't give a flying F about in reality and are just using it to make your point seem strong and valid.

[Jamebonds1]

Автор сообщения: SlowMango

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

When steam come in, video games became more general and secured against pirates.

By Steam's own admission, their DRM is to prevent "casual piracy". It is not to prevent anything more than that.

Their DRM alone is very easily bypassed. The only way they affected piracy is through convenience and ease of access.

DRM can't be bypassed easily and there is legal define for this.

[BlackBloodGhost]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

Автор сообщения: SlowMango

By Steam's own admission, their DRM is to prevent "casual piracy". It is not to prevent anything more than that.

Their DRM alone is very easily bypassed. The only way they affected piracy is through convenience and ease of access.

DRM can't be bypassed easily and there is legal define for this.

The Steamworks one can be.. just saying. I mean It's really simple. As for more invasive ones like EAC, Denuvo.. yeah not so easy.

[Komarimaru]

Автор сообщения: Vanythe

Автор сообщения: Komarimaru

It's more than just old.
It's an insecure system for transactions.
It's too insecure to be trusted on an online platform.
It does not support the security certificates needed these days.
It doesn't even support modern GPU's, CPU's, Memory, Motherboards, etc etc
It couldn't even keep up with technology of the time, like USB 3.0, yet Linux could.

It also has vulnerabilities that are so bad, if someone got your IP address, they could easily bypass any firewall you own or use, take control of the Group Policy Editor of all things remotely, allowing anyone full system control from there with the Windows 7 user being none the wiser.

And these vulnerabilities can't even be fixed with 0patch that people are foolishly relying on.

Remember, that in the technology world, you're over a century behind.

Exactly, so you should get rid of your phone if its not running latest everything, because security! See, I care about it too! Same goes with your car! Your 1 year or more older car has increased chances to crash, so getting a new one should be a top priority! Get rid of that old junker asap! Your apartment wasn't built in 2023? Was it PERHAPS built in previous century? Think about YOUR security! It COULD collapse sooner than an apartment built in 2023! You should call the demo-squad immediately to deal with it, even before you buy a brand new 2023 apartment/house!

Jokes aside, your reasons are invalid. Security is up to the individual using the computer rather than the OS itself. If you are doing sketchy stuff, no amount of security will help you online, other than LAN cable being unplugged. It does not matter what it supports and what it doesnt, thats the user's problem. If the user wants to use it like they have for the past years, they should be able to, without people like you trying to take their games away because of their security, which lets be honest, you and everyone else here don't give a flying F about in reality and are just using it to make your point seem strong and valid.

That's the thing, you're the one out of touch with reality, your pathetic jokes showed that.

The games are still there and always will be. You refusing to advance with the times is strictly due to your own negligence and ignorance.

[Jamebonds1]

Автор сообщения: BlackBloodRum

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

DRM can't be bypassed easily and there is legal define for this.

The Steamworks one can be.. just saying. I mean It's really simple. As for more invasive ones like EAC, Denuvo.. yeah not so easy.

How is steamworks related to DRM?

[BlackBloodGhost]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

Автор сообщения: BlackBloodRum

The Steamworks one can be.. just saying. I mean It's really simple. As for more invasive ones like EAC, Denuvo.. yeah not so easy.

How is steamworks related to DRM?

It's the bit that checks to make sure the steam client is running before allowing the game to launch.

[Vanythe]

Автор сообщения: Komarimaru

Автор сообщения: Vanythe

Exactly, so you should get rid of your phone if its not running latest everything, because security! See, I care about it too! Same goes with your car! Your 1 year or more older car has increased chances to crash, so getting a new one should be a top priority! Get rid of that old junker asap! Your apartment wasn't built in 2023? Was it PERHAPS built in previous century? Think about YOUR security! It COULD collapse sooner than an apartment built in 2023! You should call the demo-squad immediately to deal with it, even before you buy a brand new 2023 apartment/house!

Jokes aside, your reasons are invalid. Security is up to the individual using the computer rather than the OS itself. If you are doing sketchy stuff, no amount of security will help you online, other than LAN cable being unplugged. It does not matter what it supports and what it doesnt, thats the user's problem. If the user wants to use it like they have for the past years, they should be able to, without people like you trying to take their games away because of their security, which lets be honest, you and everyone else here don't give a flying F about in reality and are just using it to make your point seem strong and valid.

That's the thing, you're the one out of touch with reality, your pathetic jokes showed that.

The games are still there and always will be. You refusing to advance with the times is strictly due to your own negligence and ignorance.

I am on windows 10, lol. I moved to it back in 2020. 10 has literally nothing going for it other than automatic driver installation compared to 7. Everything else is bloatware, most of which you cannot even remove, but oh it is so much more secure. When I press the start button and see all the ads for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, diseny minus etc, I feel so secure. My data especially is secure.

[Jamebonds1]

Автор сообщения: BlackBloodRum

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

How is steamworks related to DRM?

It's the bit that checks to make sure the steam client is running before allowing the game to launch.

Forgive me, but I don't see steamwork and DRM are the same.

[Komarimaru]

Автор сообщения: Vanythe

Автор сообщения: Komarimaru

That's the thing, you're the one out of touch with reality, your pathetic jokes showed that.

The games are still there and always will be. You refusing to advance with the times is strictly due to your own negligence and ignorance.

I am on windows 10, lol. I moved to it back in 2020. 10 has literally nothing going for it other than automatic driver installation compared to 7. Everything else is bloatware, most of which you cannot even remove, but oh it is so much more secure. When I press the start button and see all the ads for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, diseny minus etc, I feel so secure. My data especially is secure.

If you're on windows 10, then you'd know you can disable all that. The windows store offers, cortana, etcetera.

The fact you're complaining about it exemplifies said ignorance.

[BlackBloodGhost]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

Автор сообщения: BlackBloodRum

It's the bit that checks to make sure the steam client is running before allowing the game to launch.

Forgive me, but I don't see steamwork and DRM are the same.

Any software which performs a remote check to determine if the user is permitted to use it in the case of software, music, movies or games is a DRM (Digital Rights Management) software.

It doesn't have to be invasive if they don't want it to be.

Anyway, there's more on Steams DRM here:
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/drm