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Windows 7 Support Ending - Refunding my Entire Library?
So let me get this straight, my games that run fine on Windows 7 I can no longer access past a certain point? If this is the case I will be talking to my bank and refunding my entire games library. I have zero interest in upgrading my hardware or Operating system.

Does this not violate consumer or anti-trust laws?

When I started using Steam I never agreed for them to control what hardware and operating system I can use, especially considering all of the games I play support Windows 7.
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Would you drive that outdated car if it had a hole in the gas tank and faulty seatbelts and brakes?

That's what Windows 7 is at this point.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von C²C^Guyver |NZB|; 2. Juni 2023 um 10:56
Windows 7 is probably a classic muscle car.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Would you drive that outdated car if it had a hole in the gas tank and faulty seatbelts and brakes?

That's what Windows 7 is at this point.
hole in gas tank is easily fixed with tiresealent and sand

faulty seatbelts is easily replaced with bungee cables and c hooks

brakes can be fixed cheap
Ursprünglich geschrieben von AC Dosage:
Windows 7 is probably a classic muscle car.
Hardly.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Would you drive that outdated car if it had a hole in the gas tank and faulty seatbelts and brakes?

That's what Windows 7 is at this point.
hole in gas tank is easily fixed with tiresealent and sand

faulty seatbelts is easily replaced with bungee cables and c hooks

brakes can be fixed cheap
Can you do that to Windows 7? No.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von C²C^Guyver |NZB|; 2. Juni 2023 um 11:06
Ursprünglich geschrieben von AC Dosage:
Windows 7 is probably a classic muscle car.
for sure!
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von AC Dosage:
Windows 7 is probably a classic muscle car.
for sure!
More like a "classic" Toyota Camry that's been skipping out on oil changes for 3 years.
Other steam-like games platforms don't seem to have any trouble in keeping their customers.
Funny how this discussions shifts to an older, but very well performing operating system.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
What the laptop model? I have issue with that but that because laptop I had is a complete toaster as it only had 2GB of RAM, CPU was okish but even on win7 didn't change either way for CPU but RAM amount was just the issue all I had to do was bump to resolve issue, and SSD can make a big changes compare HDD due to mass gap in performance.

Anyways this depends on your laptop specs mainly.

ASUS K73TK
1.9 GHZ dual core (AMD A4-3305M)
4GB RAM DDR3
Optical DVD player
AMD Radeon HD 6480G

Windows 7 works fine on it as long as I don't install the after SP2 updates.
Ah, my toaster is Gateway NV53A, came short on RAM when I got it, but bump it up to 4GB.

Comes with Phenom II N660, 2GB RAM, Optical dvd player, and HD 4250. Basically I have a better cpu, but you have the better GPU lol.

Anyways not sure why you're having such problems running SP2, or windows 10 as both our laptops released I think same year 2011 I assume, anyways it possible might be the harddrive that slowing thing down, but only way to test that is having a sata SSD to test that out for your laptop. I know both out laptops are toasters and ok to watch movies, and somewhat ok for very old, and light games.

Might be worth getting a new laptop, these days newer laptops can run laps around our old toasters, ensure to get one with dedicated GPU as that makes a be differents to those APU/igpu.



Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nikonos:
Other steam-like games platforms don't seem to have any trouble in keeping their customers.
Funny how this discussions shifts to an older, but very well performing operating system.
Story changes fast when it happens. One day everything fine, the next everything changes. Life is like a box of chocolates, and they haven't bother to update their back end yet, but when they do it be same story being peach "why drop my os" each, and every time.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Would you drive that outdated car if it had a hole in the gas tank and faulty seatbelts and brakes?

That's what Windows 7 is at this point.
hole in gas tank is easily fixed with tiresealent and sand

faulty seatbelts is easily replaced with bungee cables and c hooks

brakes can be fixed cheap
What if the tank is beyond damaged to be repaired and the manufacturer doesn't produce the parts anymore?

And the only way to fix the tank is to get the blueprints for it but the other company can't because it is protected (closed source)
Zuletzt bearbeitet von SqueakyTweaky; 2. Juni 2023 um 11:29
Customers can shift fast too, when their bought and payed for products disappear.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nikonos:
Customers can shift fast too, when their bought and payed for products disappear.
Oh, indeed. Shame the other store fronts are already in the process of removing 7 support as well.

Hardware manufacturers already abandoned Windows 7 some time ago, even more reason to quit offering support for it.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Would you drive that outdated car if it had a hole in the gas tank and faulty seatbelts and brakes?

That's what Windows 7 is at this point.
hole in gas tank is easily fixed with tiresealent and sand

faulty seatbelts is easily replaced with bungee cables and c hooks

brakes can be fixed cheap
When the engine goes, you're looking to spend same price as new used car, even then there different sizes, and specifications.

When gas tank is beyond repair, there no way to replace if there no replacements left due to being discontinued, and becomes very expensive, not all made the same shape, and size, or mounted same way.

Car shell, and flooring just falls apart putting even more time, to replacing it all.

At that time you be a hazard on the road, and unfit to be used due to road regulations. No one want to be near a beat up car that ready to fall apart, or want it to be on the road when it does fall apart.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Dr.Shadowds 🐉; 2. Juni 2023 um 11:39
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Crashed:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:
for sure!
More like a "classic" Toyota Camry that's been skipping out on oil changes for 3 years.
i say a ford mustang from the 70s
Windows 7 is not a classic car. Cottage cheese left out in the sun is a more appropriate analogy.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Littlefoot Brontosaurus:
Windows 7 is not a classic car. Cottage cheese left out in the sun is a more appropriate analogy.
its still better then win10 for sure
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