About matchmaking in team based games

[Archangel]

Why do devs rigged the matchmaking in modern team based games? it totally nulify all your effort and skill, you can train and practice hard but one person can ruin your game completely, you are the complete mercy of your team, that's already bad enough.

Why devs have to rigged it, it's all rigged even in mobile legends lol, is it true that guys like Gaben Newman who implemented this rigged matchking are psychopaths who derive pleasure from seeing other people suffering, is it true they want to cause psychological torture?

[BJWyler]

Matchmaking was a thing long before Steam. One thing to note about competitions and competitive matches. Someone is always better than you, and you aren't as good as you think. The players who are genuinely skilled understand concepts like that and never come to a forum to complain that something is rigged.

[Mad Scientist]

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

Why do devs rigged the matchmaking in modern team based games? it totally nulify all your effort and skill, you can train and practice hard but one person can ruin your game completely, you are the complete mercy of your team, that's already bad enough.

Why devs have to rigged it, it's all rigged even in mobile legends lol, is it true that guys like Gaben Newman who implemented this rigged matchking are psychopaths who derive pleasure from seeing other people suffering, is it true they want to cause psychological torture?

Matchmaking systems vary from trying to get mixed and identical players of varying skill levels in the same match, to complete competitive where it tries to match a skilled player vs a skilled player depending on where they are for performance or the ladder itself. It's not really "rigged", it's more just about for competitive getting people of identical skills against each other. It tends to do the same for casual play for a lot of matchmaking. Other games just let people join servers specifically or randomly like Battlefield.

Originalmente postado por BJWyler:

Matchmaking was a thing long before Steam. One thing to note about competitions and competitive matches. Someone is always better than you, and you aren't as good as you think. The players who are genuinely skilled understand concepts like that and never come to a forum to complain that something is rigged.

[Ice Scream]

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

Why do devs rigged the matchmaking in modern team based games? it totally nulify all your effort and skill, you can train and practice hard but one person can ruin your game completely, you are the complete mercy of your team, that's already bad enough.

Why devs have to rigged it, it's all rigged even in mobile legends lol, is it true that guys like Gaben Newman who implemented this rigged matchking are psychopaths who derive pleasure from seeing other people suffering, is it true they want to cause psychological torture?

People who call matchmaking "rigged" in reality are low skilled players. Because these types of people always blame teammates and dont look at themselves.

[Archangel]

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

Why do devs rigged the matchmaking in modern team based games? it totally nulify all your effort and skill, you can train and practice hard but one person can ruin your game completely, you are the complete mercy of your team, that's already bad enough.

Why devs have to rigged it, it's all rigged even in mobile legends lol, is it true that guys like Gaben Newman who implemented this rigged matchking are psychopaths who derive pleasure from seeing other people suffering, is it true they want to cause psychological torture?

People who call matchmaking "rigged" in reality are low skilled players. Because these types of people always blame teammates and dont look at themselves.

it's rigged 100%, that's why i dont play team games anymore like dota, i only play fighting games, single player games or mmorpg, i don't have time for ups and downs of mmr anymore, i have a better idea, why not gain rank based on your performance, for example even if you lose if you play really well you can still gain mmr so that you won't get affected by the one noob team, as of right now, the idea of playing a game and putting so much effort in it only to be ruin by one idiot is not good

[Archangel]

Originalmente postado por BJWyler:

Matchmaking was a thing long before Steam. One thing to note about competitions and competitive matches. Someone is always better than you, and you aren't as good as you think. The players who are genuinely skilled understand concepts like that and never come to a forum to complain that something is rigged.

hey man, i don't have time for toxic anymore, i simply only wanted to get rid of the toxicity and create a far more lasting and far more happier community, games are made to craete fun not make you miserable, due to this rigged matchmaking team based game community is very toxic, you can't blame if someone got mad after lsing 5 matches in a row

[Ice Scream]

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

People who call matchmaking "rigged" in reality are low skilled players. Because these types of people always blame teammates and dont look at themselves.

it's rigged 100%, that's why i dont play team games anymore like dota, i only play fighting games, single player games or mmorpg, i don't have time for ups and downs of mmr anymore, i have a better idea, why not gain rank based on your performance, for example even if you lose if you play really well you can still gain mmr so that you won't get affected by the one noob team, as of right now, the idea of playing a game and putting so much effort in it only to be ruin by one idiot is not good

Sure, sure by how you address this, it tells me that you are around herald - guardian rank in dota and once again normal people don't call teammates "noobs" that only means you are the same as them which is how matchmaking works. Plus you are also arrogant thinking that you are better than them.

[Archangel]

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

Why do devs rigged the matchmaking in modern team based games? it totally nulify all your effort and skill, you can train and practice hard but one person can ruin your game completely, you are the complete mercy of your team, that's already bad enough.

Why devs have to rigged it, it's all rigged even in mobile legends lol, is it true that guys like Gaben Newman who implemented this rigged matchking are psychopaths who derive pleasure from seeing other people suffering, is it true they want to cause psychological torture?

Matchmaking systems vary from trying to get mixed and identical players of varying skill levels in the same match, to complete competitive where it tries to match a skilled player vs a skilled player depending on where they are for performance or the ladder itself. It's not really "rigged", it's more just about for competitive getting people of identical skills against each other. It tends to do the same for casual play for a lot of matchmaking. Other games just let people join servers specifically or randomly like Battlefield.

Originalmente postado por BJWyler:

Matchmaking was a thing long before Steam. One thing to note about competitions and competitive matches. Someone is always better than you, and you aren't as good as you think. The players who are genuinely skilled understand concepts like that and never come to a forum to complain that something is rigged.

:cozybethesda:

yeah but it does not, matchmaking itentionally give you weaker teammate against a stronger better team so that you will not win or be in a disadvantage, that's what i am talking about, if it does a fair matchmaking no one will complain

[Archangel]

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

it's rigged 100%, that's why i dont play team games anymore like dota, i only play fighting games, single player games or mmorpg, i don't have time for ups and downs of mmr anymore, i have a better idea, why not gain rank based on your performance, for example even if you lose if you play really well you can still gain mmr so that you won't get affected by the one noob team, as of right now, the idea of playing a game and putting so much effort in it only to be ruin by one idiot is not good

Sure, sure by how you address this, it tells me that you are around herald - guardian rank in dota and once again normal people don't call teammates "noobs" that only means you are the same as them which is how matchmaking works. Plus you are also arrogant thinking that you are better than them.

arrogant? i am simply talking about bad matchmaking where you have bad team compared to the good team of opponent, why are you so toxic, i simply talk about bad matchmaking and you go off on me, if anyone is arrogant that's you

[Ice Scream]

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

Sure, sure by how you address this, it tells me that you are around herald - guardian rank in dota and once again normal people don't call teammates "noobs" that only means you are the same as them which is how matchmaking works. Plus you are also arrogant thinking that you are better than them.

arrogant? i am simply talking about bad matchmaking where you have bad team compared to the good team of opponent, why are you so toxic

Yes ARROGANT - in your mind TEAM BAD - ME GOOD. Again, blaming teammates - that is what low skilled players do also google what toxic is, when somebody tries to tell sense in you and you don't like the answer you call them toxic? Incredible.

[Archangel]

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

arrogant? i am simply talking about bad matchmaking where you have bad team compared to the good team of opponent, why are you so toxic

Yes ARROGANT - in your mind TEAM BAD - ME GOOD. Again, blaming teammates - that is what low skilled players do also google what toxic is, when somebody tries to tell sense in you and you don't like the answer you call them toxic? Incredible.

yes, there are bad team and good team, smart and dumb people, how is that arrogant? saying Michael Jordan is better than other basketball players is arrogant? there is difference in skill, but that don't mean i am rude or treat others badly, i am just annoyed to lose a match where rank is at stake, just annoyed my mmr is not in my control.

I am pretty sure they do this so that rank will be forever fall and climb, i mean if i could be where i want in a short time i won't be interested in it anymore right? they should have just admit it instead of telling lies or saying you are not good enough blah blah blah creating more frustration, because the truth comes out anyway and now everyone knows it's rigged

[Ice Scream]

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

Yes ARROGANT - in your mind TEAM BAD - ME GOOD. Again, blaming teammates - that is what low skilled players do also google what toxic is, when somebody tries to tell sense in you and you don't like the answer you call them toxic? Incredible.

yes, there are bad team and good team, smart and dumb people, how is that arrogant? saying Michael Jordan is better than other basketball players is arrogant? there is difference in skill, but that don't mean i am rude or treat others badly, i am just annoyed to lose a match where rank is at stake, just annoyed my mmr is not in my control.

I am pretty sure they do this so that rank will be forever fall and climb, i mean if i could be where i want in a short time i won't be interested in it anymore right? they should have just admit it instead of telling lies or saying you are not good enough blah blah blah creating more frustration, because the truth comes out anyway and now everyone knows it's rigged

It amazes me that how come professional players don't complain about matchmaking being "rigged" , because you know only 1 team can win game, but every now and then there will be low skilled people who will say this or that is rigged.

[Archangel]

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

yes, there are bad team and good team, smart and dumb people, how is that arrogant? saying Michael Jordan is better than other basketball players is arrogant? there is difference in skill, but that don't mean i am rude or treat others badly, i am just annoyed to lose a match where rank is at stake, just annoyed my mmr is not in my control.

I am pretty sure they do this so that rank will be forever fall and climb, i mean if i could be where i want in a short time i won't be interested in it anymore right? they should have just admit it instead of telling lies or saying you are not good enough blah blah blah creating more frustration, because the truth comes out anyway and now everyone knows it's rigged

It amazes me that how come professional players don't complain about matchmaking being "rigged" , because you know only 1 team can win game, but every now and then there will be low skilled people who will say this or that is rigged.

because they have time to play all day, they have like 99999 hours, for a normal person with life it's impossible

[Ice Scream]

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

It amazes me that how come professional players don't complain about matchmaking being "rigged" , because you know only 1 team can win game, but every now and then there will be low skilled people who will say this or that is rigged.

because they have time to play all day, they have like 99999 hours, for a normal person with life it's impossible

That still did not answer the question why they do not complain about it and if you have a "life" then why are you coming to forum and complain about it.

[Heraclius Caesar]

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

Because these types of people always blame teammates and dont look at themselves.

To be fair, there are certainly plenty of times where it happens that teammates can and do let down the team.

While I personally don't lambast anyone for their performance or complain openly about it, it can leave a bitter taste and be rather annoying when one significantly outperforms their team and most or all of the other team yet still loses the match because their team was so lacking.

It's happened to me many times across many games over many years. It happened to me just the other night in Team Deathmatch on Ace Combat, where I had 2 teammates who both scored a grand total of 0 by the end of the match and I had scored 70,000 - 80,000, while the other team were all 40,000 or less in score. The worst part of it was that I had seen both of my teammates do very well in other matches, so it's not even like they were brand new players in their first match, they were both fairly seasoned. Yet they were supremely useless teammates in that match.

I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt, we're all weak fallible humans at the end of the day and even the best pros out there have bad days/bad matches. Maybe they're just letting the game run during that match while they take a dab or blow a line or something? Who knows.

[Archangel]

Originalmente postado por Ice Scream:

Originalmente postado por Archangel:

because they have time to play all day, they have like 99999 hours, for a normal person with life it's impossible

That still did not answer the question why they do not complain about it and if you have a "life" then why are you coming to forum and complain about it.

they did not complain because they have the time to grind, it's not about if they complain or not, the matchmaking is rigged and that's the point, don't divert the topic, don't be an annoying little prick