Warning: Delta Force Installs Invasive Kernel-Level Spyware and Causes System Issues

[mohissa0441m]

"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!"

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Publicado originalmente por Illasera:

Publicado originalmente por Ben Lubar:

A rootkit is a kind of malware. Kernel mode software is not a rootkit unless it does the things that a rootkit does (giving someone else access to your system's administrator privileges).

You wouldn't refer to a printer driver from 1995 as a "rootkit".

1.)Kernel space -> Check
2.)Sends data -> Check
3.)Leaves left-overs after removal -> Check
4.)Causes issues with other softwares, some of them even reside in kernel space as well -> check
5.)Aimed to prevent things from working (I mean that's the goal of anti cheat but it will always have side effects) -> check
6.)Black box, you don't know what it does? -> check.

Rootkit, my printer doesn't do that.

That's not a rootkit. A rootkit is a type of software which is entered into the system files to rip control and software privlages away from the end-user. Stuff like Respondus Lockdown is a rootkit, what you're describing is dangerous to the system, possibly spyware, but not a rootkit. Leaving data in the core system files is dangerous and stupid, but not malware. Keep in mind anti-viruses that do have explicit warnigns that simple uninstalls will not work and make special software with instructions for removing their material.

[Lixire]

Publicado originalmente por Ben Lubar:

Publicado originalmente por Soap:

Vanguard is also a rootkit and Riot is owned by Tencent, you don't see people complaining about it anymore though? As a matter of fact people were excited when it was brought over to league. If it's a matter of data then are you telling me that you don't use google and windows services as well? because they collect way more than an anticheat 🤷

A rootkit is a kind of malware. Kernel mode software is not a rootkit unless it does the things that a rootkit does (giving someone else access to your system's administrator privileges).

You wouldn't refer to a printer driver from 1995 as a "rootkit".

The idea is that kernel level anti cheats do have the ability to turn into rootkit and being abused by attackers. This already happened with the kernel level driver from Miyoho that is being actively used by Genshin Impact and Honaki Star Rail
https://www.pcgamer.com/ransomware-abuses-genshin-impacts-kernel-mode-anti-cheat-to-bypass-antivirus-protection/

Hence why people are pretty much concerned about such anti cheats. Though it will be less of an issue in the future as we are going into the Win11 era as Microsoft did decide to limit kernel access in the newer OS and instead encourages developers to use VBS Enclaves instead

[Subsonic]

Publicado originalmente por mohissa0441m:

"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!"

Welcome to steam, the wild west of dangerous software and porno pedo games.

[MemeMachine]

Publicado originalmente por Pierre_The_Scumbag:

Publicado originalmente por mohissa0441m:

"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!"

Welcome to steam, the wild west of dangerous software and porno pedo games.

I'm not sure why Steam even allows furry/porn games in the first place, there used to be websites that hosted this degenerate ♥♥♥♥.

[fudoshinkan]

Publicado originalmente por mohissa0441m:

"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!"

Publicado originalmente por mohissa0441m:

"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!"

How can i check i fi have this and other kernel level anti cheat

[mohissa0441m]

Publicado originalmente por fudoshinkan:

Publicado originalmente por mohissa0441m:

"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!"

Publicado originalmente por mohissa0441m:

"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!"

How can i check i fi have this and other kernel level anti cheat

Here's how you can check if a kernel-level anti-cheat such as ACE (or others) is running on your system:
Task manager:
Open Task Manager (Ctrl + Shift + Esc), go to the Processes tab and look for any unusual or unknown services running. Kernel-level anti-cheat programs often have their own service names (such as "ACE-GAME" or "ACE-BASE" for Delta Force).

Service panel:
Press Win + R, type services.msc, and press Enter. Scroll through the list of services and look for anything related to anti-cheat. For ACE, you might see a name like "AntiCheatExpert Service" or "AntiCheatExpert Protection"

Command prompt:
Open Command Prompt as administrator and type:

order
Copy the code
question:
This will list all running services. Look for unfamiliar anti-cheat names.

Startup program:
Check your startup programs by typing msconfig in the run dialog box. Kernel-level anti-cheat sometimes sets itself up on startup.
If you find anything related to ACE or any other anti-cheat program that concerns you, you can disable or uninstall it.

[Soap]

Publicado originalmente por Illasera:

DRMs and ANTI-CHEATS softwares do benefit someone...

The cheater / the cracker.
the cracker studies the DRM and learn how to go around it or disable it.
the cheater studies the anti-cheat system and learns how to go around it.

In the meantime; the cracker get free stuff; give other free stuff that is DRM-less
the cheater manages to go around the anti-cheat and still cheat in the game...

The innocent end user - still pays, still get DRM, still get anti-cheat softwares and still get cheaters ingame...

And to both the cheater and cracker i say, good job, the innocent end user enabled that behaviour; they deserve it; next time folks; stand on your own damn feet like OP.

So here should be no anti cheat or DRM in any game from now on let's see you enjoy playing against lobbies full of cheaters and then complain about there being no anti cheat 🤣🤣🤣

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Publicado originalmente por Soap:

Publicado originalmente por Illasera:

DRMs and ANTI-CHEATS softwares do benefit someone...

The cheater / the cracker.
the cracker studies the DRM and learn how to go around it or disable it.
the cheater studies the anti-cheat system and learns how to go around it.

In the meantime; the cracker get free stuff; give other free stuff that is DRM-less
the cheater manages to go around the anti-cheat and still cheat in the game...

The innocent end user - still pays, still get DRM, still get anti-cheat softwares and still get cheaters ingame...

And to both the cheater and cracker i say, good job, the innocent end user enabled that behaviour; they deserve it; next time folks; stand on your own damn feet like OP.

So here should be no anti cheat or DRM in any game from now on let's see you enjoy playing against lobbies full of cheaters and then complain about there being no anti cheat 🤣🤣🤣

No I say they should find a stronger anti-cheat and one that doesn't risk my systems security. I expect programmers to do the jbos they promise they can do or admit to being incapable. And in what universe does DRM have anything to do with cheating software?

[Illasera]

Publicado originalmente por Soap:

So here should be no anti cheat or DRM in any game from now on let's see you enjoy playing against lobbies full of cheaters and then complain about there being no anti cheat 🤣🤣🤣

Dedicated servers; that's how the world used to work before you developed half a brain cell...

communities were formed thanks to it, clans, guilds, whatever.

Each person with 2 dollars would rent a server or host one in his home, a website for the community as well, the game played would have moderation tools to allow mods to babysit and keep his community safe and maintain a blacklist for banned accounts, its called vigilance and hard work.

[NativeOne]

Publicado originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

You should post in the forum for said game.

:nkCool:

some moderator there would ban him ..

if they already haven't ?

he did the right thing posting it here ..

even though game mods would follow him here as well and troll him with dummy accounts ..

to discredit him and have him banned here as well ..

just like the posters trying to discredit him now ..

~see for yourself

[Evilworm]

Thanks for the warnings

[Soap]

Publicado originalmente por NativeOne:

Publicado originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

You should post in the forum for said game.

:nkCool:

some moderator there would ban him ..

if they already haven't ?

he did the right thing posting it here ..

even though game mods would follow him here as well and troll him with dummy accounts ..

to discredit him and have him banned here as well ..

just like the posters trying to discredit him now ..

~see for yourself

never been a game mod in my lifem this guy is just being a hypocrite complaining about this game only to go on and play war thunder 🤣🤣

[Illasera]

Publicado originalmente por Soap:

Publicado originalmente por NativeOne:

some moderator there would ban him ..

if they already haven't ?

he did the right thing posting it here ..

even though game mods would follow him here as well and troll him with dummy accounts ..

to discredit him and have him banned here as well ..

just like the posters trying to discredit him now ..

~see for yourself

never been a game mod in my lifem this guy is just being a hypocrite complaining about this game only to go on and play war thunder 🤣🤣

haven't played war thunder; what's wrong with it?

[adri]

okey

[mohissa0441m]

Publicado originalmente por Evilworm:

Thanks for the warnings

Very pleased I just want to share what I've discovered so others can make informed decisions. It is always better to be careful about these things.