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Warning: Delta Force Installs Invasive Kernel-Level Spyware and Causes System Issues
"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!":steamthumbsup:
Last edited by mohissa0441m; Dec 5, 2024 @ 4:09pm
Originally posted by hassantony012:
I don't understand why some people attack you in the comments instead of thanking you for offering advice to us. They are people without feelings. Anyway, thank you so much for pointing that out to us
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mohissa0441m Dec 9, 2024 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by Soap:
Originally posted by Lazlo Fjärtsson:


this doesnt work for me, just says those files/programs arent installed even though they are.
Just delete the anti cheat via control panel, the rest are residual files. If you have already deleted the anti cheat through control panel or via uninstalling the game you should be fine. Every program leaves residual files, including anti cheats from other games. This guy is just fear-mongering and being a hypocrite.
I see where you're coming from, but I’m not fear-mongering here just sharing my experience.The issue with ACE isn't just residual files; it's the fact that its services can still run and interfere with other software even after uninstalling the game or using the control panel. I’ve dealt with similar anti-cheats before, and none were as persistent as this one.
Of course, I get that all progrms leave traces behind, but ACE crosses a line for many players, including me. If you've had a different experience, that's great, but I think it's fair to warn others about potential issues so they can make an informed decision :bulbconnect:
mohissa0441m Dec 9, 2024 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by Soap:
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:

Exactly I totally get where you're coming from. The game itself looks really fun, but when it comes to invasive software, you have to draw the line somewhere. Protecting your privacy and personal data is way more important than playing any game. Hopefully, the developers will listen to feedback like this and consider implementing a less intrusive anti-cheat system. Until then, staying cautious is definitely the smart move:steamthumbsup:
very hypocritical when you play other games that have the same type of anti cheat and collect the same amount of information 🙄
Look, I get what you're saying, but there’s a big difference between anti-cheats that respect user control and ones that don't. Most modern anti-cheats, even at the kernel level, are transparent about what they do, and they’re easier to manage or disable. With ACE, the problem isn't just data collection it's how invasive and persistent it is, even after you uninstall the game.
Calling it hypocritical assumes I blindly accept the same practices from other games, which I don’t. I evaluate every case individually. If a game's anti-cheat crosses the line, I’ll call it out—regardless of the title. ACE, in my opinion, pushes boundaries that shouldn't be normalized. Fair enough?
Soap Dec 9, 2024 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
Originally posted by Soap:
very hypocritical when you play other games that have the same type of anti cheat and collect the same amount of information 🙄
Look, I get what you're saying, but there’s a big difference between anti-cheats that respect user control and ones that don't. Most modern anti-cheats, even at the kernel level, are transparent about what they do, and they’re easier to manage or disable. With ACE, the problem isn't just data collection it's how invasive and persistent it is, even after you uninstall the game.
Calling it hypocritical assumes I blindly accept the same practices from other games, which I don’t. I evaluate every case individually. If a game's anti-cheat crosses the line, I’ll call it out—regardless of the title. ACE, in my opinion, pushes boundaries that shouldn't be normalized. Fair enough?
What boundaries? every other one still leaves residual files running in the background as well as staying in the background. 🙄🙄
mohissa0441m Dec 9, 2024 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Soap:
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
Look, I get what you're saying, but there’s a big difference between anti-cheats that respect user control and ones that don't. Most modern anti-cheats, even at the kernel level, are transparent about what they do, and they’re easier to manage or disable. With ACE, the problem isn't just data collection it's how invasive and persistent it is, even after you uninstall the game.
Calling it hypocritical assumes I blindly accept the same practices from other games, which I don’t. I evaluate every case individually. If a game's anti-cheat crosses the line, I’ll call it out—regardless of the title. ACE, in my opinion, pushes boundaries that shouldn't be normalized. Fair enough?
What boundaries? every other one still leaves residual files running in the background as well as staying in the background. 🙄🙄
fair point, but here's the thing residual files and services running in the background are not the same thing. Most anti-cheat systems may leave traces, sure, but they don’t stay actively interfering with other software after uninstallation. With ACE, I couldnt even launch games using EAC because ACEs services were still causing conflicts.
This isn’t about residual files; it’s about how ACE continues to function and create issues long after it’s supposed to be gone. If other anti-cheats behave the same way, I'd call them out too. The line is drawn when something becomes intrusive enough to disrupt unrelated programs. That’s a boundary ACE clearly crosses. 🙄
Soap Dec 9, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
Originally posted by Soap:
What boundaries? every other one still leaves residual files running in the background as well as staying in the background. 🙄🙄
fair point, but here's the thing residual files and services running in the background are not the same thing. Most anti-cheat systems may leave traces, sure, but they don’t stay actively interfering with other software after uninstallation. With ACE, I couldnt even launch games using EAC because ACEs services were still causing conflicts.
This isn’t about residual files; it’s about how ACE continues to function and create issues long after it’s supposed to be gone. If other anti-cheats behave the same way, I'd call them out too. The line is drawn when something becomes intrusive enough to disrupt unrelated programs. That’s a boundary ACE clearly crosses. 🙄
I've had EAC running in the background before even after closing it's games, I've had vanguard running in the background. ACE isn't the only anticheat that does that. This isn't the first kernel level anticheat that does that and won't be the last. You also complain about data and privacy while playing warthunder, as well as being on windows and using google services. 🙄🙄😂
MonkehMaster Dec 9, 2024 @ 4:50pm 
sorry but, saying you use this or that, when somone complains about data/privacy on a piece of software, isnt the win you think it is.
mohissa0441m Dec 10, 2024 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by Soap:
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
fair point, but here's the thing residual files and services running in the background are not the same thing. Most anti-cheat systems may leave traces, sure, but they don’t stay actively interfering with other software after uninstallation. With ACE, I couldnt even launch games using EAC because ACEs services were still causing conflicts.
This isn’t about residual files; it’s about how ACE continues to function and create issues long after it’s supposed to be gone. If other anti-cheats behave the same way, I'd call them out too. The line is drawn when something becomes intrusive enough to disrupt unrelated programs. That’s a boundary ACE clearly crosses. 🙄
I've had EAC running in the background before even after closing it's games, I've had vanguard running in the background. ACE isn't the only anticheat that does that. This isn't the first kernel level anticheat that does that and won't be the last. You also complain about data and privacy while playing warthunder, as well as being on windows and using google services. 🙄🙄😂
about EAC and Vanguard, but here's where you're missing the nuance. While those systems may also run in the background temporarily, they don’t actively cause persistent interference with other software after being uninstalled. ACE, on the other hand, has been proven to conflict with other games and services even after removal. That’s a critical difference. 🤷‍♂️
As for your comment about Windows, Google, and War Thunder it’s a bit of a stretch, don’t you think? Using those platforms is a calculated trade-off. They don’t actively break functionality on my system like ACE does. Comparing a game’s intrusive anti-cheat to an operating system or a search engine is like comparing apples to oranges. 🍎🍊
But hey, if you’re okay with software behaving like that, more power to you. I just prefer to be a bit more cautious when something messes with my system to that extent. 🤔
MemeMachine Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:00am 
I'd be ok with the anti-cheat if it WORKED.
Most of these "very effective kernel level anticheats" just don't prevent cheaters, they always find a workaround.
Gaming is infested with cheaters, especially the fps genre, there has to be something more effective than data mining anticheats.
WiseGuye Dec 10, 2024 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by MemeMachine:
I'd be ok with the anti-cheat if it WORKED.
Most of these "very effective kernel level anticheats" just don't prevent cheaters, they always find a workaround.
Gaming is infested with cheaters, especially the fps genre, there has to be something more effective than data mining anticheats.


I don't even think they are data mining lol. You people are more paranoid than me and I smoke weed everyday lol.
MemeMachine Dec 10, 2024 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by WiseGuye:
Originally posted by MemeMachine:
I'd be ok with the anti-cheat if it WORKED.
Most of these "very effective kernel level anticheats" just don't prevent cheaters, they always find a workaround.
Gaming is infested with cheaters, especially the fps genre, there has to be something more effective than data mining anticheats.


I don't even think they are data mining lol. You people are more paranoid than me and I smoke weed everyday lol.
Delta force was bought by tencent, so yes it 99% data mining lmao.
Also smoking weed every day is very unhealthy, you should consult a doctor for that lol.
Last edited by MemeMachine; Dec 10, 2024 @ 7:26am
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!":steamthumbsup:


And right there in the OP a whole lot of false information. Abd them he decides to use another false information comment as his highlighted comment. :steamfacepalm:

The real facts are it does uninstall when you uninstall the game. I tested this myself with Delta Force and then playing Fortnite.

The anti cheat is only running when the game is running. Tested this myself by exiting out of Delta Force and saw nothing running.

The anti cheat doesn't conflict with other anti cheats. Tested this myself by exiting out of the game and then running Fortnite, had no issues at all.

There is zero proof about it collecting non game data and sending it to anyone.
Last edited by Squirrel With Acorn; Dec 10, 2024 @ 9:25am
Crashed Dec 10, 2024 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by Squirrel With Acorn:
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!":steamthumbsup:


And right there in the OP a whole lot of false information. Abd them he decides to use another false information comment as his highlighted comment. :steamfacepalm:

The real facts are it does uninstall when you uninstall the game. I tested this myself with Delta Force and then playing Fortnite.

The anti cheat is only running when the game is running. Tested this myself by exiting out of Delta Force and saw nothing running.

The anti cheat doesn't conflict with other anti cheats. Tested this myself by exiting out of the game and then running Fortnite, had no issues at all.

There is zero proof about it collecting non game data and sending it to anyone.
Wasn't there an update to the game to add the uninstall script?
mohissa0441m Dec 10, 2024 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Squirrel With Acorn:
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!":steamthumbsup:


And right there in the OP a whole lot of false information. Abd them he decides to use another false information comment as his highlighted comment. :steamfacepalm:

The real facts are it does uninstall when you uninstall the game. I tested this myself with Delta Force and then playing Fortnite.

The anti cheat is only running when the game is running. Tested this myself by exiting out of Delta Force and saw nothing running.

The anti cheat doesn't conflict with other anti cheats. Tested this myself by exiting out of the game and then running Fortnite, had no issues at all.

There is zero proof about it collecting non game data and sending it to anyone.
I understand you've done some tests yourself, but it’s important to consider that different systems may behave differently. Just because it works fine for you doesn’t mean it works the same for everyone else.
The fact that it uninstalls when you uninstall the game is good for you, but the issue isn’t just about installation it’s about how the software behaves even after the game is closed. 🚨 Some users report that ACE doesn’t completely shut down, and they still encounter problems with residual services running in the background, leading to system instability or conflicts with other programs
Also, about the data collection: while there may not be clear proof in your case, there’s enough concern among the community regarding the level of access ACE requires to function. Some people might not be comfortable with it, and that’s okay. It’s better to be cautious than to assume everything is fine just because it works in your specific scenario.
In the end, every user has their own experience and their own level of comfort when it comes to these things. It’s not about false information; it’s about different perspectives. We all just want to ensure we’re making informed decisions. 👍💡
SAMMMIRR Dec 10, 2024 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!":steamthumbsup:


Wow, Mohammed Al-Hussaini, it looks like you’ve cracked the code of modern gaming vulnerabilities! Let’s take a moment to admire your bravery in sticking it to a free game with a kernel-level anti-cheat while conveniently ignoring the giant elephants in the room—like CVE-2024-44308 on Apple devices or CVE-2024-43093 for Android. Because clearly, the safest option is to junk everything you own, right?

And just so we're on the same page, your outrage isn’t about a widespread industry issue (because kernel-level anti-cheat is practically standard now); it’s specifically about Delta Force—a free game, no less. If you’re so horrified, why even install it in the first place? Did someone at Activision or EA slip you a care package for this hit job? Or are we supposed to believe you're a selfless champion for the greater good of gamers everywhere?

Pro tip: if you really cared about improving the situation, you’d send your very serious concerns to the developers instead of broadcasting them here to drum up bad press. But hey, that wouldn’t get as many thumbs up from the keyboard warrior crowd, right?

Oh, and since you’re so worried about privacy and system stability, maybe stop playing any modern game with Easy Anti-Cheat or BattlEye, which also run at the kernel level. By your logic, half the games in your library should be uninstalled immediately—unless you think Delta Force is somehow the sole harbinger of doom in your perfectly vulnerable system.

So here’s a thought: either contribute something constructive or don’t bother. Because whining about industry standards while ignoring context isn’t helping anyone, least of all your credibility.
mohissa0441m Dec 10, 2024 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by SAMMMIRR:
Originally posted by mohissa0441m:
"WARNING! Delta Force installs highly invasive kernel-level spyware disguised as AntiCheatExpert (ACE). This anti-cheat software feels like it’s spying on you and causes serious conflicts with other anti-cheat systems like Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), which is already kernel-level. The most frustrating part? Even after uninstalling Delta Force, ACE's services remain active on your system, causing issues with other games!

I tried to launch a game using EAC, and I got the error message: 'Please close ACE-BASE before launching.' Even when Delta Force was uninstalled, ACE's services were still interfering with my system!

This is completely unacceptable for a free game. The risks to your privacy and system stability are too high. Here's how to remove ACE if you want to fix your system:

Open CMD as Administrator and enter these commands:
sc delete ACE-GAME
sc delete ACE-BASE
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Service"
sc delete "AntiCheatExpert Protection"
Restart your PC to finalize the removal. Save yourself the trouble and protect your privacy—stay far away from this game!":steamthumbsup:


Wow, Mohammed Al-Hussaini, it looks like you’ve cracked the code of modern gaming vulnerabilities! Let’s take a moment to admire your bravery in sticking it to a free game with a kernel-level anti-cheat while conveniently ignoring the giant elephants in the room—like CVE-2024-44308 on Apple devices or CVE-2024-43093 for Android. Because clearly, the safest option is to junk everything you own, right?

And just so we're on the same page, your outrage isn’t about a widespread industry issue (because kernel-level anti-cheat is practically standard now); it’s specifically about Delta Force—a free game, no less. If you’re so horrified, why even install it in the first place? Did someone at Activision or EA slip you a care package for this hit job? Or are we supposed to believe you're a selfless champion for the greater good of gamers everywhere?

Pro tip: if you really cared about improving the situation, you’d send your very serious concerns to the developers instead of broadcasting them here to drum up bad press. But hey, that wouldn’t get as many thumbs up from the keyboard warrior crowd, right?

Oh, and since you’re so worried about privacy and system stability, maybe stop playing any modern game with Easy Anti-Cheat or BattlEye, which also run at the kernel level. By your logic, half the games in your library should be uninstalled immediately—unless you think Delta Force is somehow the sole harbinger of doom in your perfectly vulnerable system.

So here’s a thought: either contribute something constructive or don’t bother. Because whining about industry standards while ignoring context isn’t helping anyone, least of all your credibility.
Wow, quite the theatrical response thanks for taking the time to craft such a passionate piece! Let’s unpack it together, shall we? 😊
First, let me clarify: my concerns aren’t about targeting a specific game, nor am I under the illusion that kernel-level anti-cheat is unique to Delta Force. The issue here is transparency and implementation. Many industry-standard anti-cheats are upfront about their behavior and risks, providing clear options for users to mitigate issues. ACE, on the other hand, feels rushed in execution, with several users (myself included) noticing residual processes even after uninstalling the game. If addressing these concerns is “whining,” I’d argue it’s the same “whining” that’s led to better consumer protection across various industries.
Secondly, no one is suggesting ditching all modern games or tossing out devices, for that matter. But raising awareness about potential risks isn’t “drumming up bad press”; it’s giving people a chance to make informed choices. Isn’t that the foundation of any healthy community? Or do we just sit back and accept everything without question? 🤔

As for contacting developers, that’s a fair point and something I’ve already done. But forums like these are also valuable for sparking conversations and pushing for accountability. After all, if nobody discussed issues publicly, how would change ever happen? And let’s not pretend that “constructive” criticism and “bad press” are mutually exclusive—they often go hand in hand.
Lastly, if we’re talking about credibility, maybe it’s worth considering whether mocking someone for raising a legitimate concern says more about the person raising the issue or the one dismissing it. I’m here to discuss, not to grandstand or tear anyone down. Perhaps we can shift this energy into something more productive? 🤷‍♂️
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