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Dr.Rumblesacks 2023년 7월 16일 오후 6시 22분
Halo Community Ban
Never been banned or received a warning from a steam community, so not sure how to go about this. Managed to get perma banned for 4 simple words from the complete halo community: "Is this pride month?," must have come across a real touchy admin.
Dunno, guess humor and sarcasm are dead. See people trolling people all the time and in way worse convos. Sure everyone here has seen plenty of examples.
Anyone know who to contact for such things?
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Sgt. Osiris 2023년 7월 17일 오전 7시 44분 
The people moderating the Halo forums need to have their bans audited by Valve. The only reason they are moderators is because it puts them a position of power and not because they want to moderate the forum for its well-being. The most recent announcement, Disability Pride Month, had over 1,300 comments before it was locked. Comments were then deleted and bans issued, leaving just over 200 comments in that particular thread.

As Feesh has stated, they don't even follow the guidelines when issuing permanent bans. They'll permanently ban you and make you go through the proper channels to get un-banned which, as we see from Feesh, is difficult to do.
Satoru 2023년 7월 17일 오전 9시 52분 
Feesh님이 먼저 게시:
You all need to chill. I literally started this thread so i could get in contact with the right moderators to reverse my ban. Honestly this community sucks because everyone just goes straight to arguing and fighting. Can't even start a decent conversation around here.

I mean you do realize your post history is public and that you trolling the halo forums is basically public right
BJWyler 2023년 7월 17일 오전 10시 45분 
Quetzalcoatl님이 먼저 게시:
I mean, you only see said change from a subjective point of view. Let's say the rocket league thing. I played it and still do so ocassionaly. From YOUR subjective point of view a rainbow decal ain't bad and all, beacuse you like rainbows. you are biased . But from an objective point of view , it's just subpar, especially compared to all the other stuff already in the game, wich is basically superior work.
You considering the rainbow decal subpar isn't any less a subjective point of view than my seeing it a an enhancement to the game. To paraphrase an old adage: Art is in the Eye of the Beholder. It's all subjective.

Quetzalcoatl님이 먼저 게시:
Your second example..... Might be good even from an objective point of view, as messing with the leveling system messed up the tempo and made the game worse by default. Although you didn't exactly adapt to said change did you now? You outright abandonded the game and found better ones.
Again, that's not an objective point of view, but a subjective one. For me it messed up the leveling system and tempo of the game. For others, it was an enhancement. So again, the change itself is agnostic - the game itself didn't suffer any negative consequences from the change, nor did it bring anything overwhelmingly positive. Some people liked the change and saw it as an improvement. Others, like me, didn't like the change and felt the opposite way. And I did adapt to the change - it just happens that my adaption was to lessen my play time with the game and find enjoyment in other places. At the end of the day, just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean that particular something is bad in any objective point of view. I mean, I don't like Spinach, but I can't deny that eating spinach comes with certain health benefits.

Quetzalcoatl님이 먼저 게시:
And then... That's more about opportunity then change....

In the end, it's a matter of perspective as well. Not all change is good and not all change is bad either.
Exactly, it all ends up being a matter of perspective - which is subjective. Opportunities are created by change, so it's what we do with those opportunities that will decide whether that change ends up being positive or negative for us as individuals. It's easy for anyone to say that getting laid off from a job is a bad change, but in my case, I found it to be one of the best changes in my life.

Quetzalcoatl님이 먼저 게시:
But it's your duty to discern between the good and the bad . Some changes will be bad regardless of your point of view and some will be good in the same way. It's close to impossible to reach a conclusion. There's no trully right answer, there's just exceptions.
Exactly - and it's that way because .... wait for it .... change itself is agnostic. It's how we handle it and discern the opportunities that are presented because of it that are important and ultimately decide whether the change is good or bad.

In my SWTOR example, the change was good. From one perspective a lot of the player base was pleased with the change. Others really didn't care all that much, so the game ultimately wasn't negatively affected by that change. From my personal perspective, the change negatively affected my enjoyment of the game, but I turned that negative into a positive and gained more from it by doing do, therefore for me, the change was also good, even though there was negativity associated with it. I could have spent all my time being all mopey and outraged and trolling the forums and the devs every chance I got because I didn't like the change (like a certain user is currently doing in the Steam forums regarding COH3), and that would have made the change a bad one. But I didn't do that. I took the opportunities the change offered, adapted my free time to the change, and came out better because of it.



Cryptic님이 먼저 게시:
"used to help improve our society"

But it doesn't. That's the point.
The point is that it all depends on one's perspective. It certainly can and did help improve society in the past. Examples can also be found where it hurt society. At the end of the day, it's what we do with it as humans that determines the outcome. Sometimes something does in fact benefit society even if we personally do not benefit from it or even openly dislike it.

Cryptic님이 먼저 게시:
It only creates more of a divide which we see every single day.
It doesn't create a divide, blind adherence to tribalism does. Our society is in the state it is now not because someone put a rainbow flag in a game. It's in the state it is now because of people's blind adherence to notions like "Owning the libs." I've been a Conservative all my life and never once felt like I needed to own anybody. Hell, I married a Liberal. Turns out there's a lot more in common with Conservatives and Liberals than people are lead to believe by their leaders - who most certainly have personal agendas that do not benefit the whole of society.

Cryptic님이 먼저 게시:
Don't even deny that. If a song is blatantly saying everyone from one side of the political spectrum can go screw and the rest of them are all perfect in the singer's eyes, then that's a lot different than songs having deeper meanings that can be determined and interpreted by the individual listening. That's not really a good example
So you would deny that songwriter's right to free speech and expression. We may certainly not agree with the message they are singing, but as a Constitutional Conservative, I am not prepared to deny them the right to express it in the form of a personal work of art. Now certainly, that expression may come with other consequences, which the artist should be fully prepared to deal with in an appropriate manner. Unfortunately, we far too many examples where people are not dealing with the consequences of their actions in an appropriate manner. But that is a separate issue to be dealt with.
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Dr.Rumblesacks 2023년 7월 17일 오후 2시 52분 
Satoru님이 먼저 게시:
Feesh님이 먼저 게시:
You all need to chill. I literally started this thread so i could get in contact with the right moderators to reverse my ban. Honestly this community sucks because everyone just goes straight to arguing and fighting. Can't even start a decent conversation around here.

I mean you do realize your post history is public and that you trolling the halo forums is basically public right

Lol one four worded comment is considered trolling a community forum? People need to grow a spine around here.
pineapplejuice 2023년 7월 17일 오후 3시 11분 
I was banned from halo infinite hub for commenting on a topic about pride month during pride month. I didn't say anything inflammatory or the like. Then Halo MCC subsequently banned me too for having been banned from infinite. The support staff don't unban you despite alot of comments saying "just reply to support"
pineapplejuice 2023년 7월 17일 오후 3시 12분 
I was banned from Witcher 3 hub because I said the game runs baddly on the deck even though it's marketed as running great. The moderators made some snide remark about how his old Texas instrument calculator couldn't run the game either then permanently banned me.
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xAlphaStarOmegax 2023년 7월 17일 오후 3시 22분 
I'm not saying that I like censorship or anything, but I don't know why you felt the need to bring all of that up in a video game where people go to escape all of that. I know you were probably trying to be funny, but yeah, it's best you don't talk about certain things these days.
Lamundari 2023년 7월 17일 오후 3시 57분 
BJWyler님이 먼저 게시:
Quetzalcoatl님이 먼저 게시:
I mean, you only see said change from a subjective point of view. Let's say the rocket league thing. I played it and still do so ocassionaly. From YOUR subjective point of view a rainbow decal ain't bad and all, beacuse you like rainbows. you are biased . But from an objective point of view , it's just subpar, especially compared to all the other stuff already in the game, wich is basically superior work.
You considering the rainbow decal subpar isn't any less a subjective point of view than my seeing it a an enhancement to the game. To paraphrase an old adage: Art is in the Eye of the Beholder. It's all subjective.

Quetzalcoatl님이 먼저 게시:
Your second example..... Might be good even from an objective point of view, as messing with the leveling system messed up the tempo and made the game worse by default. Although you didn't exactly adapt to said change did you now? You outright abandonded the game and found better ones.
Again, that's not an objective point of view, but a subjective one. For me it messed up the leveling system and tempo of the game. For others, it was an enhancement. So again, the change itself is agnostic - the game itself didn't suffer any negative consequences from the change, nor did it bring anything overwhelmingly positive. Some people liked the change and saw it as an improvement. Others, like me, didn't like the change and felt the opposite way. And I did adapt to the change - it just happens that my adaption was to lessen my play time with the game and find enjoyment in other places. At the end of the day, just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean that particular something is bad in any objective point of view. I mean, I don't like Spinach, but I can't deny that eating spinach comes with certain health benefits.

Quetzalcoatl님이 먼저 게시:
And then... That's more about opportunity then change....

In the end, it's a matter of perspective as well. Not all change is good and not all change is bad either.
Exactly, it all ends up being a matter of perspective - which is subjective. Opportunities are created by change, so it's what we do with those opportunities that will decide whether that change ends up being positive or negative for us as individuals. It's easy for anyone to say that getting laid off from a job is a bad change, but in my case, I found it to be one of the best changes in my life.

Quetzalcoatl님이 먼저 게시:
But it's your duty to discern between the good and the bad . Some changes will be bad regardless of your point of view and some will be good in the same way. It's close to impossible to reach a conclusion. There's no trully right answer, there's just exceptions.
Exactly - and it's that way because .... wait for it .... change itself is agnostic. It's how we handle it and discern the opportunities that are presented because of it that are important and ultimately decide whether the change is good or bad.

In my SWTOR example, the change was good. From one perspective a lot of the player base was pleased with the change. Others really didn't care all that much, so the game ultimately wasn't negatively affected by that change. From my personal perspective, the change negatively affected my enjoyment of the game, but I turned that negative into a positive and gained more from it by doing do, therefore for me, the change was also good, even though there was negativity associated with it. I could have spent all my time being all mopey and outraged and trolling the forums and the devs every chance I got because I didn't like the change (like a certain user is currently doing in the Steam forums regarding COH3), and that would have made the change a bad one. But I didn't do that. I took the opportunities the change offered, adapted my free time to the change, and came out better because of it.



Cryptic님이 먼저 게시:
"used to help improve our society"

But it doesn't. That's the point.
The point is that it all depends on one's perspective. It certainly can and did help improve society in the past. Examples can also be found where it hurt society. At the end of the day, it's what we do with it as humans that determines the outcome. Sometimes something does in fact benefit society even if we personally do not benefit from it or even openly dislike it.

Cryptic님이 먼저 게시:
It only creates more of a divide which we see every single day.
It doesn't create a divide, blind adherence to tribalism does. Our society is in the state it is now not because someone put a rainbow flag in a game. It's in the state it is now because of people's blind adherence to notions like "Owning the libs." I've been a Conservative all my life and never once felt like I needed to own anybody. Hell, I married a Liberal. Turns out there's a lot more in common with Conservatives and Liberals than people are lead to believe by their leaders - who most certainly have personal agendas that do not benefit the whole of society.

Cryptic님이 먼저 게시:
Don't even deny that. If a song is blatantly saying everyone from one side of the political spectrum can go screw and the rest of them are all perfect in the singer's eyes, then that's a lot different than songs having deeper meanings that can be determined and interpreted by the individual listening. That's not really a good example
So you would deny that songwriter's right to free speech and expression. We may certainly not agree with the message they are singing, but as a Constitutional Conservative, I am not prepared to deny them the right to express it in the form of a personal work of art. Now certainly, that expression may come with other consequences, which the artist should be fully prepared to deal with in an appropriate manner. Unfortunately, we far too many examples where people are not dealing with the consequences of their actions in an appropriate manner. But that is a separate issue to be dealt with.


No, The objective point in considering the rainbow decal subpar stands. Because compared to the better decals in the game it is low effort, it's not my personal opinion, it's based on a simple comparison.


The second one is again, also objective, because the previous leveling system was balanced around the game , so the change did affect. The people who liked the change were the people who hated grinding in the first place. People who you guessed it, REFUSED To adapt in the first place.Even tho grinding is a big part in any RPG.And it seems you fail to understand what's an objective point of view, because an objective point of view is all about ignoring personal preference , and judging it without any sort of bias.

And you're wrong again because change can be bad and people still agree to it, because they didn't think it through or because they have bad taste . Same goes for a good change. Just because an individual agrees or likes the change, doesn't mean said change is good. Irrelevant of you gettin something remotely good from it. It's like a world end event happening, but you manage to learn how to survive and thrive. Does that mean the change is good? No.

Also, the food topic is a poor example if i've ever seen one. Because everyone's taste buds are different. Same with food tolerance and some other factors. Just because you like something, doesn't mean that thing becomes good, or even acceptable. Your failure to understand that is indeed... concerning to say the least.
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pineapplejuice 2023년 7월 17일 오후 4시 28분 
xAlphaStarOmegax님이 먼저 게시:
I'm not saying that I like censorship or anything, but I don't know why you felt the need to bring all of that up in a video game where people go to escape all of that. I know you were probably trying to be funny, but yeah, it's best you don't talk about certain things these days.
actually thats what got me baned was becasue we were discussing that. that maybe 343 shouldnt shove it down your throat like they were. we werent bringint it up we were asking why they are
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FatalError 2023년 7월 17일 오후 4시 30분 
Welcome to steam OP. The reason this happens is left wing cancel culture and lazy mods. The mods dont actually read for context because that would take effort and a soul. They reduce human interactions to "you said a nono word". In regards to which words are nono words anything that is considered controversial, even if its just one word. Of course if you're PC then you have a 50% chance of just getting a pass. It#s pointless, only thing you can do is leave the steam community and only post when you have specific gameplay related questions. Don't even engage with these clowns.

Regarding the ban, if it says issued by a forum mod, it was a halo mod so support will just tell you they dont give a poop about game forum bans. If it was steam mod then it's either because a snowflake reported you as they tend to do or some AI autoban nonsense.

Either way 99% chance you're stuck with it. Only thing you can do is consider not supporting these companies in the future.
Ruminate 2023년 7월 17일 오후 4시 45분 
FatalError님이 먼저 게시:
Only thing you can do is consider not supporting these companies in the future.
At this point it is a meaningless undertaking. What left is there to support when wokeism and cancel culture has infected everything and permeated nearly every corporation? Especially when it comes to mainstream and triple A video games, there's little left to find that hasn't in some way bent to the leftist agenda.

Entertainment is no longer a safe escape.
Dr.Rumblesacks 2023년 7월 17일 오후 5시 04분 
FatalError님이 먼저 게시:
Welcome to steam OP. The reason this happens is left wing cancel culture and lazy mods. The mods dont actually read for context because that would take effort and a soul. They reduce human interactions to "you said a nono word". In regards to which words are nono words anything that is considered controversial, even if its just one word. Of course if you're PC then you have a 50% chance of just getting a pass. It#s pointless, only thing you can do is leave the steam community and only post when you have specific gameplay related questions. Don't even engage with these clowns.

Regarding the ban, if it says issued by a forum mod, it was a halo mod so support will just tell you they dont give a poop about game forum bans. If it was steam mod then it's either because a snowflake reported you as they tend to do or some AI autoban nonsense.

Either way 99% chance you're stuck with it. Only thing you can do is consider not supporting these companies in the future.

You're spot on. It's why I spend most of my time on TF2. Which by the way supports all sorts of people but their mods are not power hungry.
Ruminate 2023년 7월 17일 오후 5시 08분 
Feesh님이 먼저 게시:
FatalError님이 먼저 게시:
Welcome to steam OP. The reason this happens is left wing cancel culture and lazy mods. The mods dont actually read for context because that would take effort and a soul. They reduce human interactions to "you said a nono word". In regards to which words are nono words anything that is considered controversial, even if its just one word. Of course if you're PC then you have a 50% chance of just getting a pass. It#s pointless, only thing you can do is leave the steam community and only post when you have specific gameplay related questions. Don't even engage with these clowns.

Regarding the ban, if it says issued by a forum mod, it was a halo mod so support will just tell you they dont give a poop about game forum bans. If it was steam mod then it's either because a snowflake reported you as they tend to do or some AI autoban nonsense.

Either way 99% chance you're stuck with it. Only thing you can do is consider not supporting these companies in the future.

You're spot on. It's why I spend most of my time on TF2. Which by the way supports all sorts of people but their mods are not power hungry.
If you mean Team Fortress 2, that game is owned by Valve. You are supporting the company that allows the developers on this platform to moderate like that.
kingjames488 2023년 7월 17일 오후 6시 01분 
banned, wrong forum
John Gear 2023년 7월 17일 오후 6시 20분 
Same thing happened to me, i got banned for a simple joke, which wasn't even directed towards other users or groups of people. I cant even post screenshots anymore, this is bs.
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