Steam should not allow 3rd party launchers

[iTsSaisaMan]

As i got my Rockstar account stolen recently and cant get it back by any means , i started to remenber how many launchers i have to have to play a game i bought on steam. And to risk my money again on every other launcher is scary. So the easiest solutions its to allow steam players to play the game without installing the launcher , only having the account in game maybe.

I do not care if its make steam more of a monopoly and i couldnt care less about the other trash launchers we are forced to get being "competition".

[iTsSaisaMan]

Context someone stole my R club account without having acess to neither the account nor my email. And still could...

[TWPanda77]

In this instance, I think that Steam is the third party launcher. However, semantics aside, without these agreements in place between companies like EA, Rockstar and Ubi, there could be a lot of games missing again from the Steam store.

It is unfortunate that you have had some difficulty, but you should be taking this up with Rockstar support. Rockstar accounts can have two-factor authentication applied, and ultimately it was your responsibility to secure the account.

[iTsSaisaMan]

Originally posted by TWPanda77:

In this instance, I think that Steam is the third party launcher. However, semantics aside, without these agreements in place between companies like EA, Rockstar and Ubi, there could be a lot of games missing again from the Steam store.

It is unfortunate that you have had some difficulty, but you should be taking this up with Rockstar support. Rockstar accounts can have two-factor authentication applied, and ultimately it was your responsibility to secure the account.

read my reply for context its not my responsability if the launcher security is bad stop defending bad things

[Vorshin]

Thats the thing. I tend to avoid buying any games on steam that require say UBi launcher or origin/EA launcher etc. I usually try to pick them up on their launcher instead for several reasons.

1. logging into steam for it to log into (whatever other launcher) to then log into game = lagg
2. For any launcher to hiccup/go down = disconnection from game (e.g your playing a game on Ubi through steam (ok if ubi goes down accepted so does the game) but if steam goes down your kicked out as well so not only have 1 launcher but doubling it to 2 launchers to crash you out.
3. If everything is under steam and that gets hacked you LOSE access to everything until it gets sorted out (or if unlucky you may lose everything literally. Thx but no thx.

I would rather have multiple places to go than be reliant on 1 place.

Only times i have is when, down the line, some games change and have their own launchers placed up e.g rockstar when i had several games did not require a rockstar launcher and now athey do, same with conan exiles and some games from there, they now have their own launcher for their games that steam requires to connect and if steam goes offline your kicked out.

[iTsSaisaMan]

Originally posted by Vorshin:

Thats the thing. I tend to avoid buying any games on steam that require say UBi launcher or origin/EA launcher etc. I usually try to pick them up on their launcher instead for several reasons.

1. logging into steam for it to log into (whatever other launcher) to then log into game = lagg
2. For any launcher to hiccup/go down = disconnection from game (e.g your playing a game on Ubi through steam (ok if ubi goes down accepted so does the game) but if steam goes down your kicked out as well so not only have 1 launcher but doubling it to 2 launchers to crash you out.
3. If everything is under steam and that gets hacked you LOSE access to everything until it gets sorted out (or if unlucky you may lose everything literally. Thx but no thx.

I would rather have multiple places to go than be reliant on 1 place.

Only times i have is when, down the line, some games change and have their own launchers placed up e.g rockstar when i had several games did not require a rockstar launcher and now athey do, same with conan exiles and some games from there, they now have their own launcher for their games that steam requires to connect and if steam goes offline your kicked out.

i didnt mind launchers until now , wich means the most concerning thing is security. I should have known since gta V leaks people ips adress

[Crazy Tiger]

In an ideal world, sure. But those companies would very likely otherwise pull their games (has happened already in the past). I think it's better that games remain available for people to purchase and not get removed due to personal pet peeves.

That said, why not simply purchase such games on their own launchers anyway?

[MonkehMaster]

i also try avoiding these crappy third party game launchers, i never buy a game with third party launchers and if a launcher gets added to the game later, then they receive a negative review and me bypassing their crappy launcher, while also spreading the bypass so others can bypass them as well.

not only are these launchers just plain garbage, they hinder performance of the game(s), they can also be very buggy, or even AD ridden, they are also annoying when i have to log into 2 different "launchers" just to play a stupid game.

[ReBoot]

No, thanks. I'd rather get Mass Effect on Steam with Origin attached, than not getting it on Steam at all.

[HikariLight]

Steam is the third party launcher for any game not made by Valve.
So demanding that third party launchers be removed would mean most games would be removed from Steam.

[J4MESOX4D]

I don't like launchers but you can't expect a publisher to remove theirs from a game you've purchased on Steam. Some of these launchers facilitate the entire operation of the product so they are necessary even if they are an annoyance and riddled with unwanted bloat.

The biggest issue between Steam and these third party launchers is the API linkage between them. I see too many threads where Steam says contact the other party and then the other party saying contact Steam if there is a problem and it seems like Ubisoft, EA and co don't seem to understand this aspect from their end.

[NuLife]

had ea/origin launcher before i had steam, and never had any security problems with it

[Kargor]

Valve decided to be as open as they can, to not drive interested publishers away for no useful reason.

What would you do if those games weren't available on Steam? You'd buy them on the "home-platform" of that publisher.

Solution: even though the games are sold on Steam, you can still buy them on their "home-platform". Same outcome.

[iTsSaisaMan]

Originally posted by Kargor:

Valve decided to be as open as they can, to not drive interested publishers away for no useful reason.

What would you do if those games weren't available on Steam? You'd buy them on the "home-platform" of that publisher.

Solution: even though the games are sold on Steam, you can still buy them on their "home-platform". Same outcome.

i wouldnt and i think many are like me but the main problem is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ services of others ,

[Kage Goomba]

The launcher had nothing to do with it - also its not 3rd party - its 2nd party in this context.
The publisher being subject to Steam (First Party) or vice versa.

3rd Party would be you downloading some hack/mod launcher that is not sanctioned/developed by the publisher of the game. (Unless you actually did this - then its on you for doing it to yourself)

In conclusion - your account "theft/problem" was a result of you likely clicking a phishing link or giving out your information - seems to be a popular event these days.

Steam can't stop people from modding/doing their own launchers - and we already have enough DRM headaches as it is.

Ironically I tend to avoid Steam when it comes to any online game of a sort due to the complicated stupidity that results in the various bridges/connections between steam and the game - so avoiding Steam in the equation actually is a benefit imho.

But beyond that - it comes down to you and you being careful with your info.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by ItzSaisaMan:

Originally posted by Kargor:

Valve decided to be as open as they can, to not drive interested publishers away for no useful reason.

What would you do if those games weren't available on Steam? You'd buy them on the "home-platform" of that publisher.

Solution: even though the games are sold on Steam, you can still buy them on their "home-platform". Same outcome.

i wouldnt and i think many are like me but the main problem is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ services of others ,

The return of EA to Steam showed how many people actually are perfectly ok with such launchers being on Steam.

I think you overestimate the amount of people who have issues with such launchers. Such things are almost exclusively discussed online and we people on forums and the like are just a minority of the actual userbases. And the people complaining about such things online are, while vocal, minorities within that posting minority. The same with just about everything internet people have issues with, whether it's DRM, microtransactions, Epic, etc.