Steam, please stop lying about Steam Deck being a top seller

[FalconerHG]

I am sure the Steam Deck is a runaway success. I am happy. PC gaming going handheld successfully is a really big deal.

But you are not currently outselling games like Metal Hellsinger, or even Judgment.

If you want to promote your box, do it honestly, and leave that #1 top selling spot to the games that you are trying to champion as a gaming platform.

[Satoru]

Also note that SteamDeck is now available in regions it was not for pre-release. TGS just happened in Japan and there was a GIGANTIC booth for the SteamDeck showing off lots of prototypes

There are a lot of people in SEA that are ordering the SteamDeck for the FIRST time.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3413183219974962933

Also now that fulfillment is basically within the next 3 months, potentially before christmas, and that news from valve is that they are ahead of schedule, people who might have been on the fence of "i dont want to wait 9 months" are likely purchasing now since the window of getting your device now is much shorter

[Qbert ⭐]

引用自 B-o-B：

Software <> Hardware
And a random user rant who know's/show's nothing to-boot...

"A random user lvl 0 because private profile"

[davidb11]

引用自 Qbert ⭐：

引用自 B-o-B：

Software <> Hardware
And a random user rant who know's/show's nothing to-boot...

"A random user lvl 0 because private profile"

You are aware that people are allowed to private their profile, and therefor you cannot complain about them.
Plus, he's known here.

[76561198407601200]

引用自 Satoru：

引用自 The Living Tribunal：

Using Satoru's example of movie theaters, I can say with certainty that he is correct as I worked at a theater for a bit over 5 years and the higher ups were more interested in money earned than units sold. If you want to believe that units sold determines if something is a top seller then by all means do so as that is your right, however if others (ie companies) are going based on money earned from sales (sans units sold) then that is also their right.

it was funny that when I did an IT consulting gig at a big theatre chain back in the day, I saw a lot of stuff. One of the most peculiar things was that if you let someone into the theatre to see a movie by accident no one seemed to care that much. But OH GOD, if you tried to give away the concession food, they were combing the security cameras and cross referencing the POS system like its was some kind of episode of CSI. I saw 3 managers watch security footage for an hour to find one guy gave a large popcorn to someone who paid for a medium one, and they hauled that kid in and fired them so fast it was sort of scary. All over like 25 cents. I thought that kid was stealing money from the till or some other like more egregious crime.

Had that happen where the GM was coming out of his office roughly every 15 minutes "got ANOTHER one !" with a smile and then goes back in the office. At the end of the day 7 employees were fired for stealing from the registers, it was small amounts over the span of a week that equated to roughly a couple hundred dollars each.

[Paratech2008]

Why does it matter how Valve determines a best seller. If people are buying based on popularity, that's their own decision. People should buy stuff because they want it.

[♥ catgirl connoisseur]

re: top sellers: like others said, the ranking is based on total revenue. That's why free to play games used to show up in there-- microtransactions and paid DLCs used to count. Not sure if they still do (?)

Whether or not it's a good idea to base the metric based on revenue entirely is up for debate lol


As for Steam Deck sales-- we don't have an exact number, but it's a lot. 7 months ago Valve said their monthly production target was "in the hundreds of thousands" (quoted) so if we're guessing on the low end, let's say they produce only 200k Steam Decks a month. That's.. what, 50k decks a week?

and of course, you only pay for your Deck when you confirm your order. So that'd be 50k "sales".

We can confirm production is still at its peak since many preorders are still pending (lol) on top of additional regions placing orders

willing to bet it'll remain top 5 in revenue for at least a few more months. definitely interested in seeing the exact sale numbers once they're released though

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 Crix：

Steam Deck will share the same fate as the Steam Machines.

Steam Machines weren't even 'a thing' to begin with.

引用自 Paratech2008：

Why does it matter how Valve determines a best seller. If people are buying based on popularity, that's their own decision. People should buy stuff because they want it.

Usually because 'the thing I don't like is upper in the list than the thing I do'.

Just like people complained how EA (evil!) games could be in the top sellers after they brought their catalog back into Steam or how could 'a thousand dollars gimmick' as the Index appear there.

[Tsubame ⭐]

Nice baseless rant.

Obviously using revenue for measurement is perfectly acceptable. Even between games, it would not be fair to directly compare a 10$ game with a 70$ just by units sold.

And yes, even by numbers alone, the Steam Deck has decent numbers. You place an order, you are looking to receive it in months later.

[primeinsurrection]

If you buy a Steam deck, you do not know about computers.

[primeinsurrection]

Also all the games they put at trending means nothing. They just place what they think will sell near the top.

[primeinsurrection]

引用自 ♥ catgirl connoisseur：

re: top sellers: like others said, the ranking is based on total revenue. That's why free to play games used to show up in there-- microtransactions and paid DLCs used to count. Not sure if they still do (?)

Whether or not it's a good idea to base the metric based on revenue entirely is up for debate lol


As for Steam Deck sales-- we don't have an exact number, but it's a lot. 7 months ago Valve said their monthly production target was "in the hundreds of thousands" (quoted) so if we're guessing on the low end, let's say they produce only 200k Steam Decks a month. That's.. what, 50k decks a week?

and of course, you only pay for your Deck when you confirm your order. So that'd be 50k "sales".

We can confirm production is still at its peak since many preorders are still pending (lol) on top of additional regions placing orders

willing to bet it'll remain top 5 in revenue for at least a few more months. definitely interested in seeing the exact sale numbers once they're released though

They say that but its not true. If it was the games wouldnt change on the list every week. It would be the same games for 30 years. You shouldnt trust much they tell you here.

[primeinsurrection]

引用自 ᠌ ⁧⁧Tsubame ⭐：

Nice baseless rant.

Obviously using revenue for measurement is perfectly acceptable. Even between games, it would not be fair to directly compare a 10$ game with a 70$ just by units sold.

And yes, even by numbers alone, the Steam Deck has decent numbers. You place an order, you are looking to receive it in months later.

Its not baseless. Hes telling the truth. It might not seem important to you. But its true and theres always a reason the truth is better. If they were being honest, it would be so far down the list you couldnt find it. People who give their hard earned money deserve not to be lied to. It would be the same if a company put their own reviews.

[Brian9824]

引用自 primeinsurrection：

引用自 ᠌ ⁧⁧Tsubame ⭐：

Nice baseless rant.

Obviously using revenue for measurement is perfectly acceptable. Even between games, it would not be fair to directly compare a 10$ game with a 70$ just by units sold.

And yes, even by numbers alone, the Steam Deck has decent numbers. You place an order, you are looking to receive it in months later.

Its not baseless. Hes telling the truth. It might not seem important to you. But its true and theres always a reason the truth is better. If they were being honest, it would be so far down the list you couldnt find it. People who give their hard earned money deserve not to be lied to. It would be the same if a company put their own reviews.

Except facts speak otherwise, we know how many pre-orders, we know they have been backordered since launch, so we know they are selling as fast as they can make them.

Every fact proves him wrong.

引用自 primeinsurrection：

They say that but its not true. If it was the games wouldnt change on the list every week. It would be the same games for 30 years. You shouldnt trust much they tell you here.

No, its the top seller of the week and it changes every week..... Again, it helps to have a basic understanding of the topic.

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 primeinsurrection：

If you buy a Steam deck, you do not know about computers.

They're not buying computers though.

[HelmutSchluckebierVomKahlenAsten]

引用自 FalconerHG：

I am sure the Steam Deck is a runaway success. I am happy. PC gaming going handheld successfully is a really big deal.

But you are not currently outselling games like Metal Hellsinger, or even Judgment.

If you want to promote your box, do it honestly, and leave that #1 top selling spot to the games that you are trying to champion as a gaming platform.

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