Steam or Humble Bundle Sales

[GatoradeMeBitch]

who do you think has better sales in terms of variety of games for sale and how often games change.

[Hanomaly]

Both have their strong suits. Sometimes humble is better, other times steam, other times sites you haven't listed.

Steam has a much bigger library of games than Humble tho.

[Xaelath]

humble bundle have too much indies.

[Start_Running]

HUmble Bundle is nice but your have to remember as far as it goes. The motivation for those sales is different. Steam Sales are for profit boosts. FOr Humble BUndle... well the sales technically can be counted as a charitable donation which counts in many regions as a tax write-off

[Crix]

I usually only get invovled with Humble Bundle if their Steam keys. It's nice it's done for charity but how do we know the money is actually going there. It's like those Twitch dontations and some people using fake webisites to make the cause seem legit when it's actually pocketed. There is a lot of mistrust and abuse on the internet and charitable events and donations. A grey area on the internet that's for sure.

[Start_Running]

Цитата допису Crix:

I usually only get invovled with Humble Bundle if their Steam keys. It's nice it's done for charity but how do we know the money is actually going there. It's like those Twitch dontations and some people using fake webisites to make the cause seem legit when it's actually pocketed. There is a lot of mistrust and abuse on the internet and charitable events and donations. A grey area on the internet that's for sure.

well with HUmble bundle y since they post the pasrticular charity it's going towards.. you can actually contact that charity and ask..

[ACSlater2001]

Цитата допису Start_Running:

... FOr Humble BUndle... well the sales technically can be counted as a charitable donation which counts in many regions as a tax write-off

Not here in the USA. In most cases, that would not count as a charitable donation for tax purposes.

US IRS states...

"If you receive a benefit because of your contribution such as merchandise, tickets to a ball game or other goods and services, then you can deduct only the amount that exceeds the fair market value of the benefit received."

Humble always states an insane retail value of the games in bundles, so they pretty much ruin your chances of qualifying. Unless you give more than their ridiculously quoted amount, at which point you're pretty much just lining Humble's pockets. Unless you decide to give the whole amount to the charity, then I would ask, "why wouldn't you just donate directly to the charity and then pay Humble the minimum amount for the games." You'd qualify for the full donation amount and the games. Additionally, you wouldn't be giving the more money to another for profit organization acting as if they're not for profit.

[Start_Running]

Цитата допису Agent_ACSlater2001:

Цитата допису Start_Running:

... FOr Humble BUndle... well the sales technically can be counted as a charitable donation which counts in many regions as a tax write-off

Not here in the USA. In most cases, that would not count as a charitable donation for tax purposes.

US IRS states...

"If you receive a benefit because of your contribution such as merchandise, tickets to a ball game or other goods and services, then you can deduct only the amount that exceeds the fair market value of the benefit received."

Humble always states an insane retail value of the games in bundles, so they pretty much ruin your chances of qualifying. Unless you give more than their ridiculously quoted amount, at which point you're pretty much just lining Humble's pockets. Unless you decide to give the whole amount to the charity, then I would ask, "why wouldn't you just donate directly to the charity and then pay Humble the minimum amount for the games." You'd qualify for the full donation amount and the games.

I meant for the publishers that put their games up for those bundles, not the persons buying them.

[ACSlater2001]

Цитата допису Start_Running:

Цитата допису Agent_ACSlater2001:

Not here in the USA. In most cases, that would not count as a charitable donation for tax purposes.

US IRS states...

"If you receive a benefit because of your contribution such as merchandise, tickets to a ball game or other goods and services, then you can deduct only the amount that exceeds the fair market value of the benefit received."

Humble always states an insane retail value of the games in bundles, so they pretty much ruin your chances of qualifying. Unless you give more than their ridiculously quoted amount, at which point you're pretty much just lining Humble's pockets. Unless you decide to give the whole amount to the charity, then I would ask, "why wouldn't you just donate directly to the charity and then pay Humble the minimum amount for the games." You'd qualify for the full donation amount and the games.

I meant for the publishers that put their games up for those bundles, not the persons buying them.

Oh, well in that case, it definitely can't count as a charitable donation. The publishers cut is much more during the deals than Humble's or the charitable organization's.

[Start_Running]

Цитата допису Agent_ACSlater2001:

Цитата допису Start_Running:

I meant for the publishers that put their games up for those bundles, not the persons buying them.

Oh, well in that case, it definitely can't count as a charitable donation. The publishers cut is much more during the deals than Humble's or the charitable organization's.

But they are offering the games for a significantly reduce cost compared to their normal market value and in truth the purchaser can also determine how the funds are split between the charity, humble bundle and the publisher.

[Achelon]

Don't be needlessly loyal, go with whoever is cheaper.

There are also indexing sites like isthereanydeal.com and cheapshark.com where you can search up a game and see who has the cheapest deal for it (warning: You'd double-check to see whether the deals include a Steam key or a key for a different client, it isn't always a given).

[ACSlater2001]

Цитата допису Start_Running:

Цитата допису Agent_ACSlater2001:

Oh, well in that case, it definitely can't count as a charitable donation. The publishers cut is much more during the deals than Humble's or the charitable organization's.

But they are offering the games for a significantly reduce cost compared to their normal market value and in truth the purchaser can also determine how the funds are split between the charity, humble bundle and the publisher.

This is all true, but the publisher sets the fair market value. They can't then sell the game at a discount and claim charitable donation even if part of the purchase went to charity. The fact is, they set the value and made a profit on the sale regardless, that's not considered a charitable donation.

And the purchaser is still getting value for the purchase even if they give all to charity. This goes back to my original post about donation and fair market value.

[Start_Running]

Цитата допису Agent_ACSlater2001:

Цитата допису Start_Running:

But they are offering the games for a significantly reduce cost compared to their normal market value and in truth the purchaser can also determine how the funds are split between the charity, humble bundle and the publisher.

This is all true, but the publisher sets the fair market value. They can't then sell the game at a discount and claim charitable donation even if part of the purchase went to charity. The fact is, they set the value and made a profit on the sale regardless, that's not considered a charitable donation.

And the purchaser is still getting value for the purchase even if they give all to charity. This goes back to my original post about donation and fair market value.

You don't really understand how humblebundle works. It's not the publishers directly selling as much as they are donating keys to their games. It's why there is frequently a lag between purchase, and receiving your activation keys with humble bundle

[Oointah_Duane]

Humble bundles are often excellent but there is something "addicting" to the Steam sales. It is a game all to itself!

Although as a dev with a game hopefully on the next Steam sale (the greenlight panic first of course) I have to admit I'm terrified of the next sale. If you can't sell the game during a Steam sale... Your not going to sell the game.

[Start_Running]

Цитата допису Oointah_Duane:

Humble bundles are often excellent but there is something "addicting" to the Steam sales. It is a game all to itself!

Although as a dev with a game hopefully on the next Steam sale (the greenlight panic first of course) I have to admit I'm terrified of the next sale. If you can't sell the game during a Steam sale... Your not going to sell the game.

Think long haul. If your game isn't selling you may be targetting the wrong audience.

[Oointah_Duane]

Greenlight first... Then I'll cry myself to sleep during the sales hehe. I always thought a fun unique game was a priority to stand out but I'm starting to think it's easier to just make the same old stuff and target bundles in ultra low budget developments.

Oh wow I'm jaded already. I've only been on greenlight for a week lol.