Why is Steam using Chrome 79 for its browser?

[ai slop]

Current version of the Chrome Engine is 87
Number of vulnerabilities in Chrome 79? 5 major ones

Can someone shed some light on why Steam is using a really old (2019) version of Chrome?

[nega]

i like steam its najs :yay:

[zaphodikus]

I'm not fully understanding the need to use a HEAVILY customised version of CEF, for security, if the coding standard of the code in the client is has hundreds of security bugs. Having a good front door becomes pointless once the code behind it is un-maintainable.

[ai slop]

Messaggio originale di davidb11:

Messaggio originale di zaphodikus:

I'm not fully understanding the need to use a HEAVILY customised version of CEF, for security, if the coding standard of the code in the client is has hundreds of security bugs. Having a good front door becomes pointless once the code behind it is un-maintainable.

That's not how that works.
The code Steam uses is so much different from version 79 that the exploits literally wouldn't work.
.

How do you know this?

[ai slop]

But you don't have access to the Steam source code do you?

[Crashed]

Hasn't the Steam browser been manually patched against these exploits?

[Kargor]

I suggest you use an actual webbrowser for "internet", and just use Steam to do Steam-stuff.

[SeriousCCIE]

Its too bad there's no actual native client for steam that doesn't depend on a browser to do stuff, but maybe I am just thinking irrationally.

[Plaid]

Messaggio originale di davidb11:

Messaggio originale di Kargor:

I suggest you use an actual webbrowser for "internet", and just use Steam to do Steam-stuff.

Exactly. Well said.
Don't know why people are freaking out over a non-issue.

You seem to be the only one freaking out in here.

And with the inclusion of the browser in Steam, Valve is suggesting you use it. It's not there NOT to be used, I'm sure.

[Stiimik]

idk

[zaphodikus]

Messaggio originale di davidb11:

Messaggio originale di Plaid:

You seem to be the only one freaking out in here.

And with the inclusion of the browser in Steam, Valve is suggesting you use it. It's not there NOT to be used, I'm sure.

I think you need to read the replies here if you think I am freaking out.

Valve doesn't want you to use the browser to do random things you know.
Don't treat it like Google Chrome or Firefox.

Stay safe by using it to look at Youtube and that's it.

If Steam had in fact really wanted us to not use other browsers, for business continuity/security/revenue protection reasons, they would, have fixed the bugs in the user experience that render the native client unusable/second-class as a priority.

[Plaid]

Messaggio originale di davidb11:

I'm very confused right now.
The native client works well for what it does.
It doesn't need to do anything fancy.
And there is no need to use the build in Steam Web browser to do anything but look at Youtube. At all.
EVER.
It just would make no sense.

Why does YouTube make sense but nothing else?

[Plaid]

Messaggio originale di davidb11:

Because I can't fathom any website you would use the built Steam Browser with besides Youtube. Or maybe googling things.

THere's simply no reason to use it for anything at all really.
Since actual browsers exist.

Steam has the browser as a bare bones system.
Using it for anything but the very basics, is like saying Netscape Navigator 3.0 is a good browser to use today in 2020. :P I don't think it would even run on a virtual machine set up to run windows 95, and set up with an internet access the browser could handle, like a 56.6K modem. :P

Do you understand my point?
No one has a reason to use Steam's built in browser for anything other than maybe Youtube, and tha'ts it.
Maybe Google searching.
But good grief, to use Steam's built in browser for anything else literally is like trying to use Netscape Navigator 3.0 right now to even load google's homepage. :P

Yes, I know Navigator became Firefox, but still.

The inclusion of hte browser makes it handy to use while gaming. You have easy access via the overlay.

But maybe the trouble here is really your inability to fathom things.

[MonkehMaster]

meh, i dont use steams browser, i use my own.

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Messaggio originale di cinedine:

Messaggio originale di Deep fake:

Chrome 87 has a load of SameSite breaking changes though - although I'd question why Steam has cookie support anyway, or infact a web browser at all

The client because everything but your library is the website version of Steam.
The overlay browser because there are and always will be games that don't get along with Alt+Tab. Or losing focus ever, even on a multi-monitor setup.

i havent used alt+tab since i started using more than 1 monitor, simply moving my mouse to the other screen works fine, when using borderless window.

sadly, certain games like to minimize when doing so and a few games here and there that seem to have performance issues using fullscreen, so are then forced to use borderless window instead.

personally i like using fullscreen so it isnt rendering the desktop behind the game, that and im already rendering 1 desktop on another monitor, so when using borderless window or windowed im basically rendering 2 desktops and the game.

would be awesome if devs properly setup fullscreen and as well gave the option to unbind the mouse, while also making their games not minimize when doing stuff on another screen.

cant remember off hand if that was a microsoft windows issue and/or if it was improved in win 10 or not, or simply game devs not implementing that stuff or failing to implementing stuff properly.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

Yes that way the steam client will have to update even more and then these people will be here complaining about that.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Messaggio originale di Deep fake:

I'd question why Steam has cookie support anyway, or infact a web browser at all

Because Steam's designers have chosen to use browser-rendered pages as a crutch for designing a UI for the Steam library, despite the fact that the Steam library originally didn't need to use such.

(Well, that's for the library; they also use the browser to let you browse the Steam store in the Steam client itself.)

That said, you can still use the -no-browser launch parameter to prevent the browser process from launching. That's what I do.