Are we allowed to use a vpn while gaming on steam ?

[Nuriyokan]

Just signed up for proton vpn but have conflicting results on if it’s allowed or not . I’m keeping my region the same and just want to use it while gaming . Tried asking support but got no reply .

So can I use it without getting banned or will it trigger a vac ban ?

[Crystal Sharrd]

Regular use should be fine. I would recommend turning it off before making any purchases, even if it is set to your same region, just to be safe.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Crystal Sharrd:

Regular use should be fine. I would recommend turning it off before making any purchases, even if it is set to your same region, just to be safe.

It's fine. I never turn mine off.

[V3LTA]

yes as long as you are not using it for fraud, for example store region billing addresses to do tax fraud

[Jon the VGNerd]

Just be careful on how you use VPN, OP.

[Chika Ogiue]

Origineel geplaatst door Nuriyokan:

Are we allowed to use a vpn while gaming on steam ?

That would, these days, depend entirely on the game. Some publishers / developers strictly forbid the use of VPNs and will ban (game) accounts caught doing so.

In terms of Steam itself, a VPN will do nothing for existing Steam accounts. Steam regions are NOT IP based after the moment of creation. So you won't be able to use a VPN alone to change your region to gain access to another region's store. VPNs also no longer work to gain access to out-of-region family shared game libraries.

[Nuriyokan]

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Origineel geplaatst door Boblin the Goblin:

It's fine. I never turn mine off.

why would you use a vpn? do you have something to hide? sounds like an admission of guilt

Either you're trolling , or projecting .... either way vpn stops people from booting you offline and ddosing you when you win in a game and they can't take a loss. That's one of the main reasons for needing a vpn in an online game. Imagine paying money to play a game and some salty player gets your ip in game and just has some bot on a timer constantly knocking out your internet . Sure you could reset the router or contact the ISP to give you a new IP but ... do you want to constantly do that ? NO . Why go through the trouble when you can just use a vpn to stop them from doing it ?

Nobody has anything to hide ... what could you possibly hide in game ??? it's an online game .

[Jakob Fel]

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Origineel geplaatst door Boblin the Goblin:

It's fine. I never turn mine off.

why would you use a vpn? do you have something to hide? sounds like an admission of guilt

"Saying that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say, or freedom of the press because you have nothing to write." - Edward Snowden

As for the question, I've used Proton VPN for a few years now and have had it running concurrently with Steam for a large chunk of that time. I've never had any issues with it. I do turn it off when making a purchase, partly to avoid any confusion and partly because using a VPN can change sales tax figures and, well, I have no interest in getting in trouble with Valve or the government.

That said, when it comes to games, definitely do try to do some research before playing with a VPN. If it's a single player title, you're almost certainly going to be alright but any game with multiplayer could potentially cause issues so research is definitely necessary.

[Lithurge]

Origineel geplaatst door 76561198083019420:

youre trying to justify the fact youve spent money on a vpn after the fact lmao

Maybe they live in a country where their government has a law in place that requires ISP's record all users activity and make it available to even the most tangenitaly related government body with nothing more than the sign off of a middle manager from that body. A law they've already been told breaches people's right to privacy by the ECHR.

Or maybe they live in a country where the government has signed off on the right for their ISP to sell their browsing history to advertisers, despite criticising the likes of Google for tracking people everywhere they go.

Or maybe they live in a repressive country.

[Nuriyokan]

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Origineel geplaatst door Nuriyokan:

Either you're trolling , or projecting .... either way vpn stops people from booting you offline and ddosing you when you win in a game and they can't take a loss. That's one of the main reasons for needing a vpn in an online game. Imagine paying money to play a game and some salty player gets your ip in game and just has some bot on a timer constantly knocking out your internet . Sure you could reset the router or contact the ISP to give you a new IP but ... do you want to constantly do that ? NO . Why go through the trouble when you can just use a vpn to stop them from doing it ?

Nobody has anything to hide ... what could you possibly hide in game ??? it's an online game .

youre trying to justify the fact youve spent money on a vpn after the fact lmao

You are one of these trolls who show up on posts to try and get a ride out of people . We’re starting to catch on now . It’s extremely narcissistic. You guys always show up with a wild accusation. You then continue to make more accusations so that the person starts defending themselves.

They then get angry enough to throw an insult and then you , your alt accounts , and bots mass report the user and abuse steams AI system . They go off of user feedback so if enough reports go through the system falsely flags the victim for illogical reasons that make no sense .

The thing is it’s so many of you doing this now that people are catching on . This often leads to false bans and your account getting hit randomly for violations that make no logical sense .

Your statements are illogical but that was purposely planned . This is the 76th time I’ve dealt with this in the past 6 years and it just doesn’t stop . Steam is becoming aware of what you are doing . I just continue to make records of it . This is my final response.

To the steam moderators whom I spoke with , THIS is exactly what I’m referring to . These replies are pure bait .

Update: They deleted the account it seems after this response ... see what i mean ?

[V3LTA]

I had to use vpn to play rainbow six because they managed to ♥♥♥♥ up the servers in my region back in 2019

Also i would never recommend to play any call of duty without a vpn or any better protection than that

Vpn to avoid ddos in csgo is very common

Gta had a big issue where it was really unsafe not to have protection (should be fixed fully by now)

And there are a lot of reasons tl use vpn including watching po....

[Nuriyokan]

Origineel geplaatst door V3LTA:

I had to use vpn to play rainbow six because they managed to ♥♥♥♥ up the servers in my region back in 2019

Also i would never recommend to play any call of duty without a vpn or any better protection than that

Vpn to avoid ddos in csgo is very common

Gta had a big issue where it was really unsafe not to have protection (should be fixed fully by now)

And there are a lot of reasons tl use vpn including watching po....

i agree with this statment.. I'm just trying to get an official confirmed statement from a valve employee that i can save a record of before using it. If anything happens i can show them that i was then mislead by them . I refuse to have my account banned if i decided to use one.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Nuriyokan:

Origineel geplaatst door V3LTA:

I had to use vpn to play rainbow six because they managed to ♥♥♥♥ up the servers in my region back in 2019

Also i would never recommend to play any call of duty without a vpn or any better protection than that

Vpn to avoid ddos in csgo is very common

Gta had a big issue where it was really unsafe not to have protection (should be fixed fully by now)

And there are a lot of reasons tl use vpn including watching po....

i agree with this statment.. I'm just trying to get an official confirmed statement from a valve employee that i can save a record of before using it. If anything happens i can show them that i was then mislead by them . I refuse to have my account banned if i decided to use one.

They won't give you one because they don't respond here.

They will just like the EULA which only talks about using one to circumvent regional restrictions/prices.

[Nuriyokan]

Origineel geplaatst door Boblin the Goblin:

Origineel geplaatst door Nuriyokan:

i agree with this statment.. I'm just trying to get an official confirmed statement from a valve employee that i can save a record of before using it. If anything happens i can show them that i was then mislead by them . I refuse to have my account banned if i decided to use one.

They won't give you one because they don't respond here.

They will just like the EULA which only talks about using one to circumvent regional restrictions/prices.

I made a ticket

[Nuriyokan]

update: I hate how difficult they make things on this platform. Either yes it is allowed or no its not allowed SHOULDN'T BE HARD TO ANSWER !

" You may want to consult with a legal advisor if you are unsure "
Imagine asking the valve developers if they allow you to use a vpn while gaming or not and they say " we don't do further analysis " WTF does that even mean ?

Yes or no ? I bet if i asked them " am i allowed to hack you guys and commit cybercrime while using steam ? " They'd obviously answer and tell me NO ! Yet if i ask am i allowed to use a VPN while gaming on their service they respond with an answer extremely vague .

Either its against the rules or its not my god ... which one is it ?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door Nuriyokan:

update: I hate how difficult they make things on this platform. Either yes it is allowed or no its not allowed SHOULDN'T BE HARD TO ANSWER !

" You may want to consult with a legal advisor if you are unsure "
Imagine asking the valve developers if they allow you to use a vpn while gaming or not and they say " we don't do further analysis " WTF does that even mean ?

Yes or no ? I bet if i asked them " am i allowed to hack you guys and commit cybercrime while using steam ? " They'd obviously answer and tell me NO ! Yet if i ask am i allowed to use a VPN while gaming on their service they respond with an answer extremely vague .

Either its against the rules or its not my god ... which one is it ?

For Steam in general, unless you are using it to circumvent you region, then they don't care.

For games, it depends on the game.