Putting the actual release date behind a pay wall and calling "Advanced Access" is so scummy.

[Tech]

Screw companies that picked up this new practice.
We thought early access was bad? This is worse. Pay extra to get it on the release date or wait a few days to get it late and the "day one" feel is gone.

[Firmament]

Mennen sizihem högn vagaz aqqor próblemen a eqenyátéqóm játéqorolel avan sóm.

[Chika Ogiue]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tech:

We thought early access was bad?

Did we? I don't recall getting a memo stating this. I doubt the vast number of other people who buy Early Access games every week, did either.

But then, I've never once felt the need to pay more just to play a game a few days earlier than someone else. You need to learn to overcome your FOMO. Try waiting a few months or years before buying the games you want to play (Early Access branded or not) and then you'll never have FOMO again.

[wesnef]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Thunderchief:

Imagine this.
You really want the game because of hype.
During the early access period you go on twitch and watch people playing through the missions/quests. You look at gameplay tips on youtube.
2 days later the mystery and hype is gone you are over it and don't want the game so badly anymore. You decide to get it later when it is on sale, then forget about it because like most modern games it wasn't as good as the hype suggested.

I honestly can't imagine feeling like that.

Of course, I haven't "hyped" for a game in decades. I wish people would stop, all it leads to is disappointment when games don't live up to unrealistic expectations.

During the early access period you go on twitch and watch people playing through the missions/quests. You look at gameplay tips on youtube.

And I certainly never do that. Why would I want to spoil a game that I want to play?


Really, everything you describe sounds self-inflicted.

[Wolfpig]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Thunderchief:

True. This is what hype does. You want it so much you either look at others playing it or you pay extra and play it yourself.

Must be hard to have no self control and letting others decide what you want.....

[Crazy Tiger]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Thunderchief:

True. This is what hype does. You want it so much you either look at others playing it or you pay extra and play it yourself.

Sure. But that's a people issue, not a publisher one.

[Tech]

I'm glad a majority of people are in agreement, it just seems like the casual "dont know any better" people who still even pre-order games are the only ones falling for it.

[RedLightning]

Who the heck would even want to buy a game early.. Most games comes with bugs galore on day one. I would rather wait anyways. I wonder what they will think of next. Slippery slope. Just when you think they couldn't possibly find a new way to use the system to get more money, they come up with another. Cannot wait to see what is next.

[Crazy Tiger]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedLightning:

Who the heck would even want to buy a game early.. Most games comes with bugs galore on day one. I would rather wait anyways. I wonder what they will think of next. Slippery slope. Just when you think they couldn't possibly find a new way to use the system to get more money, they come up with another. Cannot wait to see what is next.

The ones who suffer from FOMO. So not people like us who often wait for the GOTY or Complete editions.

[wesnef]

Oh, I still buy games on release. I just don't fall for 'deluxe' editions full of crap I don't need, or hype that makes me think it'll be The Greatest Game Evar!, or similar. And I've enjoyed the games I've gotten, even when the people around me are moaning up a storm about how disappointed they are. That's why I think "hype" is for suckers.

That said, I don't buy many big/new games in any given year. Like 0-2 usually.

[Zefar]

Paying early or a deluxe price has often given you early access to an item or game for a very long time.
Not really a scam in my eyes.

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedLightning:

Who the heck would even want to buy a game early.. Most games comes with bugs galore on day one. I would rather wait anyways. I wonder what they will think of next. Slippery slope. Just when you think they couldn't possibly find a new way to use the system to get more money, they come up with another. Cannot wait to see what is next.

The games I've bought early haven't had that problem. Even Cyberpunk2077 ran pretty well on my PC and the bugs where maybe one or two every few hour. But it being a GTA like game it became more of a laugh. One bug that was a major one was when cars had the wrong drive path and literally drove through barriers and then kept honking the horn because something damages their car.

[Mivo]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tech:

I'm glad a majority of people are in agreement, it just seems like the casual "dont know any better" people who still even pre-order games are the only ones falling for it.

I don't think it's a matter of not knowing better. They just don't share your view, don't care (because it's a non-issue from their perspective), or conclude that getting to play a game as early as possible is well worth the cost and "risk" (there is no real risk on Steam since you can refund pre-orders before release and you still get the two hours too).

[Crazy Tiger]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mivo:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tech:

I'm glad a majority of people are in agreement, it just seems like the casual "dont know any better" people who still even pre-order games are the only ones falling for it.

I don't think it's a matter of not knowing better. They just don't share your view, don't care (because it's a non-issue from their perspective), or conclude that getting to play a game as early as possible is well worth the cost and "risk" (there is no real risk on Steam since you can refund pre-orders before release and you still get the two hours too).

Yup. Different people have different priorities, preferences, interests, disposable income, etc. They base their choices on what they like and want.

Personally I don't see an issue. I don't get why people would pay more for a few days extra, but I don't get why people pre-order in todays age either. But if other people want it, they're free to spend their money as they like. And I can't fault devs/pubs for offering it when enough of their players show they want it.

People always point towards the companies, but forget where the voting power lies. And as is often enough with voting, people might find out that their vote isn't the majority. Which then sadly turns into "they don't know better".

Always keep in mind, wallets speak louder than forum posts.

[Start_Running]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Nx Machina:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tech:

Pay extra to get it on the release date or wait a few days to get it late and the "day one" feel is gone.

A classic case of FOMO.

Yup. But you know what they say. if people will pay for it...why not sell it

[MonkehMaster]

while it is up to users to "vote with your wallet", that also doesn't remove blame from companies, as these companies know some are easy prey, this is why the predatory marketing helps to rake in that money, in different ways that may end up with people losing said money depending on circumstances.

that's why I believe threads complaining about it get more word out about it, then doing/saying nothing, thus hopefully getting the attention of people who enable these companies to keep doing it, or thinking up new ways to do it after their last attempts lose its allure.

me personally, I vote with my wallet, on all aspects of the game, the devs and w/e else surrounds said company and it's products, be it pricing, nickle and diming with dlc's that have little to no content, politics, how devs react to customer complaints/any issues, bugs, or anything else I haven't mentioned off the top of my head.

[secuda]

I dont buy on release anyway.