GOG style offline installer, but on Steam

[MeditatingHamster]

Took me a while to migrate over to steam, always loved having my physical copies, but it never sat quite right never having those physical copies.

Not sure why Steam can't allow devs to opt in, or give an option for a GOG style offline installer for certain games and a sort filter option to find games that offer such an option.

Single player and Multiplayer that offers LAN play would be perfect for this. Hell, I'd be willing to pay a bit more for a game that offered this.

Anyone any thoughts as to why Steam haven't tried going down this road?

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Nope; no developer has ever stated that the GOG version was the one that went up on the pirates sites.

Never claimed they did, most developers won't comment on that and won't release them on GoG in the first place because they know if they did it would be pirated. its quite hard to say a version of a game you never released or created went up on pirate sites afterall.

That doesn't change the fact that the developers know it would be pirated which is why they don't release them. I mean there is a reason why GoG just got Fallout 4 finally released on it after Bethesda milked all the sales they could out of it.

Feel free to ask the developers why they don't release on GoG or only release older games, i've emailed them before and they flat out told me piracy is one of the reasons.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Originally posted by Brian9824:

Developers disagree with you, you should try listening to other developers and not CD Projekt which is the most biased source you could find.

There is a reason why Bethesda for instance only releases their games YEARS later on GoG, why Capcom won't release their current games, etc. They all know that it makes it easy to pirate and hence why they will release older games tha barely sell on GoG, but any new game won't be released.

Nope; no developer has ever stated that the GOG version was the one that went up on the pirates sites. Games that use Steam's DRM, which a game like Skyrim used, end up the pirates on the same day of release.

A good example of this is Terminator Resistence, a game on Steam and on GOG, released at the same time. its the Steam version that is up on the pirate sites, not the GOG version.

Another example is Plague Tale series, the pirated version is using steam version, not the GOG version.

GoG versions are extremely frequent on piracy sites due to the ease of distribution.

[eram]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by eram:

nope... when cybperpunk 2.0 came out you had to download each link separately, if you tried to download all 28 in 1 go it would slow to nothing. no option to download the entire thing

That's actually pretty garbage.

Plenty of services are able to handle simultaneous downloads fairly well(free and paid). The fact that GoG completely destroys the download speed when they distribute that many files is wild.

you couldn't even download 2 or 3 links at the same time. the only reason i had to do this was when 2.0 came out it was overloaded and had some issue with the gog purchase and had to wait a day or 2.. the version they own was the worst ha! gog galaxy with a purchase from gog for at least uk users was trash and had to be fixed, hence why i even tried the offline install. wasnt worth the hassle.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Nope; no developer has ever stated that the GOG version was the one that went up on the pirates sites. Games that use Steam's DRM, which a game like Skyrim used, end up the pirates on the same day of release.

A good example of this is Terminator Resistence, a game on Steam and on GOG, released at the same time. its the Steam version that is up on the pirate sites, not the GOG version.

Another example is Plague Tale series, the pirated version is using steam version, not the GOG version.

GoG versions are extremely frequent on piracy sites due to the ease of distribution.

I mean its almost as if he wants people to link to it to disprove his false claims so then that person could be reported for piracy....

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/stop_supporting_piracy/page1

I mean even threads from GoG users noticing people who use pirated gog installers asking for help on how to get them working...

So claiming they don't exist is laughable.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

That's actually pretty garbage.

Plenty of services are able to handle simultaneous downloads fairly well(free and paid). The fact that GoG completely destroys the download speed when they distribute that many files is wild.

you couldn't even download 2 or 3 links at the same time. the only reason i had to do this was when 2.0 came out it was overloaded and had some issue with the gog purchase and had to wait a day or 2.. the version they own was the worst ha! gog galaxy with a purchase from gog for at least uk users was trash and had to be fixed, hence why i even tried the offline install. wasnt worth the hassle.

I only download installers but the games I download them for are never bigger than like 2GB.

I'm surprised they don't just have a zip file with all parts for games they have to split. That's a very basic option for large files that need to be split.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by eram:

nope... when cybperpunk 2.0 came out you had to download each link separately, if you tried to download all 28 in 1 go it would slow to nothing. no option to download the entire thing

Nope, that is absolutely false, it has always been for every game since GOG Galaxy came out for there to be a 1 button push to download all of the offline installer files.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Since when is 28 = 100?

and none of those are going to be rar files, its going to be .bin files.

Thank you for proving that you didn't tell the truth in your comment.

Yet you still understood what the point of the comment was.

Which means this whole "you lied" is pretty disingenuous.

His entire comment is false information. No valid point is made with false information.

[eram]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Originally posted by eram:

nope... when cybperpunk 2.0 came out you had to download each link separately, if you tried to download all 28 in 1 go it would slow to nothing. no option to download the entire thing

Nope, that is absolutely false, it has always been for every game since GOG Galaxy came out for there to be a 1 button push to download all of the offline installer files.

you are wrong but thats ok you dont need to try and tell me what was going on at the time as i was there that very evening. they even posted about it from what i remember, maybe a tweet.. you however dont even own the game.

edit update

still no download all button on the offline installer no.. im on the page right now.
it says

"Install game with GOG Galaxy
GOG Galaxy keeps your games up to date, provides all multiplayer features, enables cloud saves, makes it easy to install games and more.

GOG GALAXY requires Windows 8 or newer. Download size 1MB (additional space required for GOG GALAXY installation and Cyberpunk 2077)."

OR

Download game files only. Useful if you anticipate limited internet access, or want to have a backup. These installers don't support auto-updating, nor on-line features.

with 28 links no download all anywhere on the page

download all is gog galaxy.

edit 2

Cyberpunk 2077 Legacy 1.63 115926 MB is a single link , current version setup_cyberpunk_2077_2.13_(64bit)_(76205).exe is not

[MeditatingHamster]

Originally posted by eram:

well done missing the point entirely now go on defend 28 sperate download links being fine for an offline install.

gog doesnt want some games to be downloaded offline so make it annoying on purpose.

I wouldn't mind that personally if it's only a one-off per game. TBF even 100 wouldn't bother me as a one off and just shoving it in a folder on a disk. Once it's done it's done. That's just me though. Maybe if Steam did it they could have it as one big download or fewer.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by eram:

nope... when cybperpunk 2.0 came out you had to download each link separately, if you tried to download all 28 in 1 go it would slow to nothing. no option to download the entire thing

That's actually pretty garbage.

Plenty of services are able to handle simultaneous downloads fairly well(free and paid). The fact that GoG completely destroys the download speed when they distribute that many files is wild.

That is because he isn't telling the truth. Of course if you go with the web browser way of downloading the files, as you choose to download more files at the same time the bandwidth for the downloads will be split among all the files, download 10 files the bandwidth is going to be split 10 ways, download only a single file and the bandwidth will be not be split. But the time it takes to download 1 file at a time or doing all 28 at a time will remain the same.

[eram]

i updated my post above and you have no idea it seems

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Originally posted by eram:

nope... when cybperpunk 2.0 came out you had to download each link separately, if you tried to download all 28 in 1 go it would slow to nothing. no option to download the entire thing

Nope, that is absolutely false, it has always been for every game since GOG Galaxy came out for there to be a 1 button push to download all of the offline installer files.

He's saying it won't be one file, it will just download all 28 at once as 28 files.

This 'misunderstanding' is starting to feel like it's on purpose.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Nope; no developer has ever stated that the GOG version was the one that went up on the pirates sites. Games that use Steam's DRM, which a game like Skyrim used, end up the pirates on the same day of release.

A good example of this is Terminator Resistence, a game on Steam and on GOG, released at the same time. its the Steam version that is up on the pirate sites, not the GOG version.

Another example is Plague Tale series, the pirated version is using steam version, not the GOG version.

GoG versions are extremely frequent on piracy sites due to the ease of distribution.

Except they really are not, instead the Steam version is, and occasionally the GOG version might show up a long time after the Steam version does.

[eram]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Nope, that is absolutely false, it has always been for every game since GOG Galaxy came out for there to be a 1 button push to download all of the offline installer files.

He's saying it won't be one file, it will just download all 28 at once as 28 files.

This 'misunderstanding' is starting to feel like it's on purpose.

i checked and updated my post with more info, actual info from the offline installer web page

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Brian9824:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

GoG versions are extremely frequent on piracy sites due to the ease of distribution.

I mean its almost as if he wants people to link to it to disprove his false claims so then that person could be reported for piracy....

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/stop_supporting_piracy/page1

I mean even threads from GoG users noticing people who use pirated gog installers asking for help on how to get them working...

So claiming they don't exist is laughable.

I didn't say it never happens, I said its the Steam version that gets pirated first, and occasionally the GOG version shows up a lot later.